Ed Shultz vs. Ron Paul 5-20-09

[eleny]

Run time: 07:32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfuvndfA1jw   Posted on YouTube: May 20, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: May 21, 2009 By DU Member: eleny Views on DU: 2575

 

[FLAprogressive]

1. Go Ed! (and suck it DU Paultards)

[tomm2thumbs]

2. Ron Paul can really undermine himself pretty easily - pretty sad actually

Never quite saw him get so goofy - but when you start saying eliminate this department and that department, he starts to sounds like your common disgruntled teabagger - who just wants to throw it in reverse without checking the driveway for children.

[cooolandrew]

3. Nothing more ludicrous than cutting education can't compete in business without it.>

Ron Paul is virtually saying let's cut of both our legs then we can walk. You can see why Malloy was so against this guy.

[FLAprogressive]

4. Progressives are duped into supporting him because he is against the wars

that is the Drug war and Iraq/Afghan wars.

He is dead wrong on everything else (besides the Federal Reserve issue).....

[Pharaoh]

5. Ed is being a corporate schill here

really!

[ro1942]

7. ed

ed is a corp. tool

[proud progressive]

6. don't care who is 'right'. ed was a bully and loudmouth in this

[bc3000]

12. I concur. Bizarro Fox

[loyalkydem]

8. I disagree

Ron Paul got his butt owned in this

[tsuki]

9. Was Ed interviewing himself? I don't like that on Fox, and I don't like it here. nt

[emsimon33]

32. I agree

Actually, Paul was correct about the Ag Department. They are actually more of a problem than they are a help. Michael Pollan makes the same point.

As for the Department of Ed. A national curriculum and more testing are expensive distractions.

[wildbilln864]

10. Ed!

Wow, he wouldn't let him get hardly a word in. :grr:
Is he going to be our version of Billo?

[annm4peace]

11. I didn't like Ed on this one either

[bjobotts]

13. If the majority of the people stand for it it is constitutional.Paul would end up with a corporatocr

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14. As the population grows-governemt grows.Paul says get rid of it rather than make it more efficient

[bjobotts]

15. Government is the only entity big enough to deal with multinational corporations

[bjobotts]

16. Stingy bastards don't want to pay for anything yet monnopolies will take control

[bjobotts]

17. The trick is effiency and regulation in a democracy where the gov is the people

[bjobotts]

18. The constitution grows by the will of the people& expands with the population.

[bjobotts]

19. This ain't Maybery Paul...it's 300million people...we need these departments.

[bjobotts]

20. The ED dept has accomplished a lot and yes we could make it better but

[bjobotts]

21. Most people can't or aren't equipped to 'home school' and most can't afford college

[bjobotts]

22. Without a dept of ED. very few would get to go to college...only the richest

[bjobotts]

23. Paul has very little grasp of the consequences or results of his suggestions.

[bjobotts]

24. The only thing he's right on is ending our foreign military expeditions

[Reform]

25. Much like how the WWE is to sports

The main stream media is to news.
One is now known as Sports entertainment and the other should rightfully now be known as News Entertainment.
The main stream media news is filled with nothing but as Glenn Beck called him self yesterday "Commentators"
What ever happened to journalism?
Anyway i was quite let down with ED's attitude in this interview and the way he conducted it, quite un fair to talk over your guest and not let him respond fully, i expect this sort of thing from FOX.

[LatteLibertine]

28. You're speaking of "infotainment"

and I completely agree.

[ejpoeta]

26. the only problem i have, and this is the same with any show,

is when they talk over the person after asking them a question. every time ron paul tried to answer him he just talked over him. i think letting him talk would do more damage.

[Enthusiast]

27. Of course, millions of us

agree with Ron Paul about foreign entanglements. I wish we had more that were willing to say we want to reduce military spending and get our troops out of other countries.

[agentS]

29. Ron Paul should read the DAMN thing again.

Preamble to the constitution:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

You tell me, Dr Paul, how not having food safety regulation or educational regulations and oversights promotes the general welfare!
I don't know about you, but I'm a lot more tranquil when I don't have FOOD POISONING! How about y'all?

While I agree with Dr. Paul that ConAgra and Monsanto shouldn't get food subsidies, I disagree with the notion that these departments go against the Constitution. This is something that libertarians, especially Dr. Paul, fail to pay attention to.

[William27]

31. The founders themselves / Original Intent

"Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated." Thomas Jefferson.

If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions.
James Madison, letter to Edmund Pendleton, January 21, 1792

"With respect to the two words 'general welfare,' I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Madison

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare... they may appoint teachers in every state... The powers of Congress would subvert the very foundation, the very nature of the limited government established by the people of America." Madison

Your argument should actually be. We need to amend the Constitution to make the DoA legal.

The DoA does raise the cost of food substantially, also as I mentioned in my last post it puts families out of business this is unacceptable.

Food safety means nothing if it takes food from the mouths of hard working Americans.

Forgive my bluntness in these statements but the DoA has destroyed my family in many ways.

[William27]

30. Let the man talk.

No offense to any Schultz supporters, but all he did was talk over Congressman Paul.
If you are going to interview a person let them answer the questions, this was nothing more than a total railroading.

Schultz is obviously not confident enough in his own views to even allow them to be challenged.

I agree to a degree with the Congressman Paul on this one, as I have small farmers in my family and the Department of Agriculture has bankrupted them in favor of giant corporate farmers. I would say its abolishment is a little overboard, but the DoA is a corrupt organization.

[GaYellowDawg]

33. I didn't like Ed's mannerisms... but it's about time Paul got called on some of his BS.

Let's take an example: school lunches. Ron Paul would eliminate those because they're "unconstitutional." My younger sister was president of the PTA in a poor Georgia county this past year, and she heard a lot about the percentages of kids in certain schools on the free lunch program. There are so many kids who just don't get food otherwise. Ron Paul would let those kids go hungry for his principles. Well, fuck him, and fuck all the other libertarians who think likewise.

[bucky2win]

34. I'm with Ed...

If he didn't talk over Ron Paul he wouldn't get to say a word. The whole "would you let me answer the question" shtick is is just a bunch of BS. He already answered the question and Ed tried to offer a counterpoint after which it was Ron Paul constantly over-talking. Ron takes interview situations as opportunities to hop on the soapbox. He has no interest in discussion, just in espousing his own views. I'm not saying that Ed didn't get into it too but it was not this one sided Ed over Ron Paul thing as some are describing it.

[Postman]

35. We should eliminate the DOD because they're "not doing well" in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Isn't this basically Ron Paul's argument about how government departments should be judged?

[TheFarseer]

36. Ron Paul is awful in a 2 person debate

If he would say we need to reform the Dept of Ag and Dept of Ed, then he would be right on. I've never understood why just because something's not in the Constitution, that means it's Unconstitutional. The Founding Fathers had no way of thinking of everything that would come up in the future.