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GoLeft TV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 07:54 AM
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The Rise of Right Wing Hate
 
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Since 9/11, the right wing hate talkers have stepped up their vitriolic attacks against anyone who doesn't agree with them or doesn't look like them. Through their demonization of liberals, Muslims, Hispanics, and gays, they've opened the door to a new era of intolerance and hate in this country. And with that hate has come an increasing number of politically-based murders - murders which are becoming so frequent this year, that we haven't gone a solid month without some right wing nutjob pulling out a gun and killing people who didn't agree with their beliefs. Mike Papantonio discusses the mental breakdown in this week's Pap Attack.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 08:03 AM
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1. Excellent! I hadn't heard the term "eliminationism" before - perfect word for the rightwing! n/t
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 09:11 AM
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3. It's what happens when all your arguments are based purely on emotion
It's actually quite easy to appeal to people's base emotions including fear, hate, and anger. Most people are smart enough to realize this at least subconsciously and will not allow themselves to be manipulated on that basis. Some weak minded individuals will eventually even be driven to action such as Tim McVeigh and others. The hate mongers then sit back and will claim they didn't condone the behavior, but they can understand why it happened. The reality is it happened because they orchestrated it.

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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 01:59 AM
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20. There is more to Tim McVeigh than meets the proverbial eye! n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 10:12 AM
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7. I recommend the following book: "The Eliminationists-
Edited on Wed Jul-08-09 10:18 AM by mmonk
How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right" by David Neiwert he mentions. I'm currently reading it.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 06:57 AM
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27. Then you might want to add Dave Neiwert's blog to your reading list:
Orcinus:
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/

Dave's recent series:

"Eliminationism in America": Parts I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX and X, and Appendix.
The March of the Minutemen
Intro: Parts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.

Unhinged: Unhonest
Parts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.

"The Rise of Pseudo Fascism": An essay
Original posts: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, and Part 7.


Choice essays:
____

"The Political and the Personal"

____

"Bush, the Nazis and America":
Parts 1, 2, 3, and 4.

_______

Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An Exegesis


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newmac Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 09:06 AM
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2. Who are the corporations paying these haters the big bucks?
Clearchannel head management? How do we get these right wing haters off the airwaves?
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 09:13 AM
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4. They are simply catering to what the public wants
Get rid of clear channel and someone else will immediately fill the void.

The answer is to shine a light on the cockroaches and show the general public how they are being deceived and manipulated. Only when you can eliminate the demand will the supply go away.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 03:56 PM
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13. They are simply catering to what the public wants
I don't believe this. The public didn't "create" this niche. No one asked for Rush Limbaugh. His TV show failed miserably. Many Right Wing outlets lose money quarterly.

I think the hate talk comes 1st from a small fringe minority. Then other join in out of fear and the comfort of an easy take on complicated problems. Then the mouthpieces (that are actually losing money) tell us all that they are a huge segment of the population and this is what the American people want. Conformity bring in a few more recruits. But it's not what the majority want.

Remember, George W. Bush never won a presidential election. Yeah but enough people voted for him, you say, to make the theft possible. No, again. More like not enough people voted to make his loss a sure thing. Only 40% of eligible voters voted in 2000. George got less than 50% of those votes. That's less than 20% of eligible voters.

The last election proves my point.

Just because conservatives and the MSM say they are a majority and people agree with them, it doesn't make it true. It's obviously not.

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 09:30 AM
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5. Herr Goebbels would be proud the RW has mastered the technique.
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 10:08 AM
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6. There is a screaming need for accountability.
The people on the right who vomit this stuff onto the public air waves day after day after day (always the same thing said just slightly differently but expertly defined in the video clip), they are in effect creating a dangerous group of people. As the crazy gets more pervasive, the targets of this propaganda seem to be becoming further desensitized to the fact that they ARE in fact targets. They are the 21st century "useful idiots".

Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reily, Beck, Savage and the rest of the shit-flinging Howler monkeys really do hold their audience in contempt. They not only do not see these people in their audience as equals, they truly see them as disposable assets to be expended on a whim and to serve as ATM's for their own personal enrichment. These frauds are directly analogous to the corporate CEOs and executives who believe the workers of their companies are similar assets to be exploited and that the wealth of the nation is somehow owed to them as a birth right. The attitudes of people like Sarah Palin simply bring this right out front for all to see.

We need to make sure that these people - the right wing media hatchet men, the corporate thieves in leadership roles, the fraudulent preachers making money off their mega-churches - are called to the carpet to answer for the results of their actions. The arguments that their intentions are noble can no longer be accepted prima facie. Even IF we believed their intentions were pure (which I do not, I believe they are the personification of true evil on the Earth), the results of this barrage of irrationality are becoming too much to remain silent.

Anyone spouting off the things that these people say should be accountable chapter and verse for all of it.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 11:28 AM
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8. very well stated
Edited on Wed Jul-08-09 11:29 AM by florida08
and so is the video. It's pretty obvious why the RNC promotes these people. To feed the paranoid into acting. It's also why they put up "one of their kind" as a candidate. It's who they vote for. The hyperbole media pours the gasoline while they light the match.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 12:22 PM
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11. They remind me of James Earl Jones' character in the movie Conan the Barbarian.
"Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reily, Beck, Savage and the rest of the shit-flinging Howler monkeys really do hold their audience in contempt. They not only do not see these people in their audience as equals, they truly see them as disposable assets to be expended on a whim and to serve as ATM's for their own personal enrichment. These frauds are directly analogous to the corporate CEOs and executives who believe the workers of their companies are similar assets to be exploited and that the wealth of the nation is somehow owed to them as a birth right. The attitudes of people like Sarah Palin simply bring this right out front for all to see."

Jones character says "Come to me my child" and the brainwashed woman steps off the cliff crashing to her death, Jones' character turns to *Conan and says, "now that's power."

*Played by Arnold Schwarzenegger

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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:04 PM
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15. There is a screaming need for accountability.
And these are the same people who howl over and decry the bad influence of pop music and culture. Some rock song is gonna fuck up your kid's mind! But a person in a suit, hiding behind the legitimacy of a "news" label says things like "baby killer" and "only another attack can save America"....not some vague pop song lyric, but actually "They will destroy us if we don't do something!" on a "news" show.... and what's the prob?
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pbrower2a Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 03:08 AM
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21. Repetition, repitition, repetition.
Advertising and propaganda often work on the same principle: repeat the message, no matter how obnoxious, with only the slightest variation in style, and get the desired effects. In the 1960s many of the aspirin ads gave people headaches. One detergent suggested that those who don't use it will inflict "Ring around the collar!" that would bring shame to a husband with a responsible job (the part of the collar that gets the ring is invisible!) and the housewife.

We must remember that right-wing talk radio is scripted as tightly as a movie circa 1940... but of course far less entertaining than Casablanca It is propaganda intended to make people feel discomfort at anything that challenges corporate power and class privilege. It creates fake enemies as scapegoats.
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quidam56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 11:52 AM
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9. HANNITY'S AMERICA sure isn't My America
They don't have a clue. http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p138
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 12:07 PM
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10. Rise? That was Mcarthyism and Nixonism. It ROSE long ago. People are just now getting tired of it.
Edited on Wed Jul-08-09 12:07 PM by RBInMaine
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 12:54 PM
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12. but what happened to the car salesman? eom
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 03:57 PM
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14. K & R # 19. n/t
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MNmom Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 11:36 PM
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16. Yeah, this benefits corporations...
They demonize the politicians who are trying for healthcare, end to war, taxes on the rich. This helps the right wing candidates who are for corporations and the rich. I think the murders are not the goal. Seems the goal is to demonize liberals and get the right wing back into power.
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Stapz Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 12:05 AM
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17. Man from Jesus Camp? jw nt
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Ztarbod Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 12:07 AM
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18. I recall the vitriol spawned by Al Gore's loss in 2000
It didn't come from right-wing nut jobs.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 12:38 AM
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19. How's that?
the vitriol spawned by Al Gore's loss you say? Please tell us more.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 03:48 AM
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22. That's just fucking scary
I'd love to read that book, but crap I'm sure it would piss me off to no end.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 04:37 AM
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23. Poster children for media deconsolidation and re-regulation
but since the Dems are apparently too corrupt and cowardly to deal with it- America will continue on its decline.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 05:32 AM
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24. I hope for America's sake that these nutcases find themselves more and more in the minority
of course, when more people are out of work, they just love to find someone to blame ...
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 06:37 AM
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25. Will the day come
when we eliminate these Ku Klux Klan spokesmen disguised as journalists? Or when will someone sue for damages as these low life scumbags willfully incite mental defectives to violence? They know full well who watches and listens to their hate filled screeds directed at any convenient minority or group that they decide to dehumanize. The Nazis of the 1930s did the same thing.
If it talks like a Nazi and acts like a Nazi, it's a Nazi. We thought they were eliminated in 1945, but they just changed uniforms. They appeal to the worst fears and lowest instincts preying on the most ignorant among us. Of course they don't believe in evolution; they haven't evolved. Their idea of evolution is for the most powerful corporations to eliminate all competition and run the government in the same manner which brings us back to fascism.
It's time to call them what they are and not worry about the corporate media. The Nazis and Ku Klux Klan are what they are, bigoted hate filled scum who belong in prison or worse. As long as we let the American Taliban spew hate and ignorance without a countervailing voice we can expect this cancer to eat away at civil society.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 06:43 AM
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26. good reason to make sure our education system is the best in the world

I would hope more education makes people at least able to stop at going beyond protesting and moving onto actual assaults.
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