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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:25 PM
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O'Donnell vs Katy Abram
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 12:25 PM by rocktivity
 
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I can understand why this hasn't been posted sooner--she's so out of her league, it was like watching O'Donnell drop a bomb on a roach!

:rofl:
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:34 PM
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1. Actually, it was posted earlier.
But it's soooo good. O'Donnell is on par with Jon Stewart on this one.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:45 PM
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69. I read posts about the vid on DU yesterday and planned to check it out this morning
Of course this was the first place I looked for it. I guess everybody figured that someone has posted it here already, and the result was that NO ONE did!

:headbang:
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:36 PM
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73. This is my favourite so far this week.
I believe this is what you'd get if you interviewed most of the protesters, and certainly the birthers and tea-baggers.
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theaveng Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 01:18 PM
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94. WHAT DEM. PARTY FOUNDER, JEFFERSON WOULD SAY
"The right of our fellow citizens to represent to the public functionaries their opinion on proceedings interesting to them is unquestionably a constitutional right, often useful, sometimes necessary, and will always be respectfully acknowledged by me." --Thomas Jefferson to the New Haven Committee, 1801. ME 10:269

I don't think we should be criticizing and ripping-apart Miss Abram.
Yeah okay so she's a stay-at-home mom, and a typical product of the government schools.
So what?
Does that justify us Democrats ripping her apart? In my opinion - no.


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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:34 PM
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2. How have Fox, Limbaugh and the others in right wing media reacted to this today?
Assuming they have?

I predicted yesterday that (even though LO clearly took it very easy on her) they would jump all over this and pretend that the 'far left liberal loons and MSNBC' set her up, ambushed her, etc. And that they would chop up the interview out of context as usual.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:49 PM
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8. I wondered that too because I could see
where they'd say she was a liberal plant, but she went on Hannity's show first and he slobbered all over her and told her she was a great American... Seems like they would have to take all of that back.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:59 PM
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33. While doing a search for it, I saw two RW sites
that said she made a fool of O'Donnell!

:rofl:
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:03 PM
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35. That's funny!
I didn't pick up on that at all. He looks like Perry Mason questioning a witness and getting ready to say, "The defence rests". He had control of that from start to finish.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:06 PM
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37. Seriously?
That's ridiculous. I realize that we're going to watch it with a certain bias, as will they. But most of the time she sat there with a wide-eyed 'huh/gee-whiz I don't know' look on her face.

Objectively speaking, how could anyone argue that LO had been 'made a fool of' from that?
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:10 PM
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38. You can see on her face
that the wheels are turning, desperately searching for the right answers.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 10:01 PM
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87. That look is usually accompanied by many drinks in a nightclub setting (nfm)
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:31 PM
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59. Surely they cannot believe that O'Donnell could be bested by this
moran who is clearly out of her depth with a middle schooler. She said over and over that she didn't know this, she didn't know that, her husband di this, etc. I wish that Lawrence would have just ripped her a new one like O'Reilly and Hannity do to liberal guests. I'm tired of us being the good little Democrats.
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LoKnLoD Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:35 PM
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3. Hmmm...
I never thought "sleeping giants" were that bright anyway. Just proves the point.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:47 PM
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6. I think this "sleeping giant" isn't quite
woken up yet.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:04 PM
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64. It's still groggy from the Prozac and Jack party last night.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:31 PM
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72. Oh, was that what it was?
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 06:31 PM by ScottLand
I would have thought she'd have THAT party after the O'Donnell interview!
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:41 PM
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4. Did that wench really suggest that war is common place and didn't matter?
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 12:42 PM by jotsy
Watched that interview and she didn't have an opinion she hasn't been thoroughly programmed to have. How many maternal units out there who could legitamitely claim to have no idea what the household's annual income is? Puh-lease. Doesn't appear that she's familiar with when, where, or how her constitutional rights ran off to either!
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:51 PM
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9. She said she's a sleeping giant
so at least that explains the past eight years.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:02 PM
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11. War did not matter....
because of Repub was in the WH so all is good in homeland.....
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:38 PM
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42. That's exactly what I thought her take was
A Good Christian was running the wars (Bush Sr, Bush Jr) so all was OK.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:14 PM
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19. it's possible. if they make enough for her to go shopping and spend what she wants...
then she might not even pay attention to what's coming in. I know I do, because we make a certain amount, and I have to be careful when buying groceries and such and make sure I have enough set aside for other things I may need.... I can believe it.... she'll find out at some point, though... because so many things could happen. Like losing a job or a husband walking out and leaving her penniless.... It's happened before to plenty of people. She trusted the government to make the right decisions before..... but now she doesn't. what has changed... because the dems had the presidency before in the 90s.... but now she is worried. the only thing that seems to have changed is the color of the president.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:48 PM
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28. Odd . . . has no idea of family's income . .. and little concern about constant wars -- !!!
I think it might have helped had he mentioned "TORTURE" . . . ???

Or Katrina . . .

but we have someone here who is equating "socialism" with Reds Under Beds and I don't

really think he did enough to wake her up on that!

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:37 PM
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48. They make plenty. Her family is self-insured with the medical savings account.
Here goes another bankruptcy. All it will take are some major medical expense and a divorce and that family will go plooey.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:57 PM
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32. NO
I think she's just ignorant of it, and most other topics covered.

She had that one little socialist statement, someone had put in her head, and past that, she was completely devoid of information, and facts. It was to be expected.

And I'll tell you, he was completely nice to her, as he could have sliced her to pieces had he wanted to.
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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:51 PM
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54. I'd be willing to bet ....
she doesn't even know what "socialist" means!
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:07 PM
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65. Why, yes! Yes she did!
Maybe the vacuuous dolt should rent the 26 hours documentary "The World at War" and see how this "Commonplace" thing called war devastated Europe, the Far East, Africa and the South Pacific and fill herself in on the stupidity and uselessness of War.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 09:57 AM
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92. Welcome to DU!



:toast:
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:45 PM
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5. who does she think 'THE PEOPLE"
ARE?????

People taking care of people - duh.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:39 PM
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75. That's what struck me, too.
The way she separates that the government is of the people, by the people, for the people from "the people" is mind boggling.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:48 PM
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7. She knows about her insurance coverage
But has no clue as to how much money her and her husband make a year. Has anyone checked into this crack pot? Wouldn't surprise me if her husband is in the insurance business making 6 figures a year.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:52 PM
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30. She only said they have to keep $5,000 handy - that's their deductible . . .
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 01:53 PM by defendandprotect
EVERY YEAR!!!

Meanwhile, she didn't say if they pay -- or how much they pay -- for the insurance.

Nor did he ask if she understood the problems with "work related" health care!

They may very well be connected to the "insurance" or "health care" industry . . . ??

Host should have asked that first thing!

Don't think he did a great job . . .

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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:14 PM
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67. We are almost through the deductible, Thank God.
Did anyone else catch that?
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:06 PM
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70. I was hoping LD would have asked her, "All other things being equal,
if a government plan lowered both your monthly premiums and your deductible by half, would you consider going into a government plan?"

I'd love to hear her answer to that. Probably, "I don't know. Not if it's socialism. I'd have to ask my husband."
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:49 PM
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85. Yep . . . son may be having a second surgery . . .
but if less than all of the $5,000 covered the first one, must be minor

surgery?

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #67
86. yeah, thank god our kid had surgery -
is what it sounded like. yikes!
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 05:01 AM
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89. It did sound a "Bit Off"
One has to wonder what motivates people to be so Soulless.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:13 PM
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66. Oh stop it! Handling the finances is the Mans job! Haven't you read the Bible?
How dare a women meddle in the duties of the breadwinner!

I'm shocked I tells ya, Shocked.

:sarcasm: OFF

This is the worst thing a married couple can do -- grant one person the control of the finances. All too often, the woman is left in a lurch, totally unaware of the finacial assets held by the family.

It's pretty clear that she chose "Not" to divulge this information.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:57 PM
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10. Folks who are so uneducated should stop pretending to know what our Founding Fathers wanted
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 12:57 PM by fascisthunter
She has no idea what she is saying... the Founding Fathers statement she is regurgitating is a canard. She even admits to not knowing crap about politics and by extension it's history.

I think it's safe to say most on the right have no idea what they say amongst each other and what their right wing media tells them to think.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:10 PM
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16. wonder what her response would have been to the repealing of the women's voting rights act...
since that wasn't in the founding father's plan, either. she probably wouldn't care. wonder if she ever even voted.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:12 PM
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17. another great point...
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:05 PM
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36. If she does vote
I guarantee it is how her husband tells her to.

Funny, it is pretty much the opposite in my house. My husband, even though we've been separated for years, always checks with with me before voting. If there are local issues on the ballot, though, he's usually better prepared. It's practically the only times we can have a discussion without arguing. lol
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:14 PM
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20. Our "founding fathers" were alive in the EIGHTEENTH CENTURY.....doh
Even IF our "founding fathers" didn't want these programs for the people of this country, does that mean we shouldn't have them? These men were living 200-250 years ago. There wasn't a paved road anywhere. There was virtually NO electric technology of any kind. Yes, there were poor and sick that had to be dealt with. Maybe then they dealt with them, maybe they didn't.

But just what in the hell does that have to do with what WE THE PEOPLE WANT for our country today? Because Thomas Jefferson didn't imagine Social Security or universal health care, he probably wasn't planning on sending our troops off to fight for oil in Iraq.

Jesus, this just makes such little logical sense. I honestly don't give a rat's ass what "our founding fathers" wanted. That was 1776...this is 2009. A bit of a difference in EVERY WAY.

This woman is just another example of "happy ignorance".....ignorance is bliss. Since she is going to possibly have to fork out a few tax dollars to pay for these programs, she is finally woken. What an idiot. Such fools have been enjoying the years of dubya and his crooked scum since the days of ronnie reagon.

We ARE a nation of morons. We just witnessed a pretty, young, ignorant example.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:19 PM
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21. another great point...
I can't tell you how many times I say this to myself as I read replies and statements here.

Not even scholars who studied the Founding Fathers know exactly what they wanted or intended, but they sure as hell have a better grasp than she does.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:34 PM
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81. But we do know what the Founding Fathers did NOT want.
They actually wrote it down:


"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of LIFE, Liberty or Property without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."


'Nor be deprived of LIFE' ... so, it seems to me that the Founding Fathers would have been pretty upset at the prospect of someone being refused life-saving care 'without due process' if they had had a Healthcare Industry back then.

I'd like to hear her opinion of what the FFs meant by that and why it seemed so important to them, She claims to respect them so much she wants us to go 'back to what they wanted'. Her lack of concern for life, her blase dismissal of the slaughter in Iraq and Afghanistan, doesn't seem to gel with the Founders stated opinions on these issues at all.





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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:30 PM
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25. You nailed it. n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:56 PM
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31. They also wanted slavery and women as second class citizens . ..
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 02:30 PM by defendandprotect
and right-wing PROPAGANDA works . . .

She looks like a "Reds Under Beds" Christian and there's certainly a lot of brainwashing in that -- !!



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falcon97 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:47 PM
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43. Well said. n/t
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:02 PM
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12. Lawrence O'Donnell is great; But don't get him angry on something he believe in, cuz he'll stomp
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 01:21 PM by GreenTea
the shit out of you in no time at all and then easily make you look silly & ridiculous after he just kicked your ass....I enjoy watching the very knowledgeable & insightful O'Donnell...

However, in this case (clip) O'Donnell definitely showed he has another side to his interviewing skills....Here was the smooth, patient O'Donnell, who got his point across cleverly and unmistakable.

And basically & clearly showed the woman to be so out of touch but still believing all the republicans lies and bullshit and she too came away looking silly & ignorant by the extremely polite & understanding O'Donnell.

Nothing wrong with that!

I truly wish O'Donnell had his own MSNBC show!!
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42skidoo Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:01 PM
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34. O'Donnell inteerview technique perfectyly on target
your post on target. O'Donnell had it from the start with this young lady. He is smooth and so kind to go easy on her with his patient, soothing tone. He sent her home with her lack of knowledge out there for all to see and hear. Also bet her parents, nearing Medicare age, have a thing or two to tell her.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:50 PM
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44. O'Donnell got many points across -
It's hard to pick a high point of the interview - like how this woman could have gone through 9-11, the Afghanistan War, the Iraq War, eight years of George Bush, and to still be so apolitical and ignorant until now.

Having displayed such ignorance, she pretended to be defending the Constitution which she also knew nothing about..............

:crazy:

CLUELESS!

:dunce:
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MarinCoUSA Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:37 PM
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49. O'Donnell gets his own show w/in 6 mos. The next Rachel M.
O's weekly spot on Al Frankin's Air America show was a must for me.

When he speaks, I listen.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:04 PM
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13. O'Donnell: class! Katy: cares about money. That's what awakened her - fear of taxes. nt
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:08 PM
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14. "Maybe I'm just not that smart."
With that, she said it all.

I don't think we have to worry about this one, folks. Not unless someone sees some real potential in her and descends upon her with a bunch of "media coaches" to try to make her into what she's not.

What she's not is a natural blowhard in front of a camera. She could do it for a few seconds at a town hall, but she doesn't really want to be a celebrity bloviating ignorant bullshit like Joe the Plumber does. Fact of the matter is, she probably isn't really sure WHAT she thinks anymore. She's just had the depth of her ignorance revealed to her, and how little she's paid attention to this stuff, and what a Stepford Wife she's been, and how ill equipped she really is to voice an opinion--and unlike the Sarah Palins and Joe the Plumbers, she KNOWS it, and maybe she even CARES.

I predict that either she gets descended on by a bunch of wingnuts who want to groom her for bigger things and comes out as their ill-suited Pygmalion media product, or she starts for the first time to read, think and consider...and then changes her mind.

But really, I have a feeling she'd just as soon step back from the limelight and fade away, now that she's had a taste of what it's like to have 15 minutes of cable-news fame.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:26 PM
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24. That Was Truly The Most Accurate Thing She Said
"To Me Maybe I'm Not Just That Smart" - Says a lot for our public/private education system in this country. I wonder if she has had higher education.

The other thing was the way she watched - live, brought to you by CNN war....The lasers were going across the screen..................

This ignorance really scares me as much as the wing nuts do.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:32 PM
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47. Ain't no maybe about it.
Fucking selfish bitch is what she did. We've been attacked, we've been to wars none of that interests her. The second someone tells her she may have to pay some money she suddenly becomes interested in politics. She's a friggin' idiot someone please send her back under the rock she came up from.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:08 PM
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15. so they have a small business. wonder how much they pay for their employee's insurance
assuming there are employees. also, she NEVER really cared about what was going on and just trusted her government to do what was best.... during iraq, afghanistan.... but NOW... now she doesn't trust the government anymore. and i find it telling that she didn't want to say one way or the other regarding repealing medicare and ssi.... Her parents are almost there, and I bet she wants them to get medicare so she doesn't have to foot the bill for anything for them. she sounds awfully self centered and as if she couldn't care less about anyone but herself and her friends and family. So, while over 4000 men and women have died in our name over the past several years... she didn't pay any attention or care because she was so busy with getting married and having babies.... how many of those men and women who have died in those wars will never have babies!! or families of their own!! it just makes me so sad. and i think o'donnell's approach was perfect. Just walked her down the path... but i wonder if she ever understood it.
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:13 PM
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18. There is a lesson here
don't sleep through history class and read a book. it is good for you.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:24 PM
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23. Especially if you're going to speak out on the national stage. --nt
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shagsak Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:19 PM
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22. 7:30
After dropping (for the second time) his practical smart socialism comment, he lets out a small smirk. "This is too easy."
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:32 PM
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39. Did he really say that?
I missed it. I may go listen again. But, I'm not sure if I want to suffer through the embarrassment a second time.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:41 PM
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26. Notice the cross and the Fundie approach to information . . . does she want slavery again?
Did she think the Founders were right on women's rights?

Perhaps he should have explained some of that to her -- and the giving away

of commonwealth property and control of our natural resources to the elites?

Would someone please explain to these idiots that HITLER took over a truly socialist

party -- one that worked for women and health care and a lot of good things -- and

distorted it into a warmongering-party which TORTURED people.

If the last part would have sounded familiar to her, she might have woken up!!





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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:44 PM
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27. When I saw the clip if her at Specter's event, I got furious. Hated that woman more than all the
Tea Baggers that have been at these town halls. 9-11 attacks, the Iraq War, torture, indefinite detention, illegal spying, draining the treasury, mountain top removal... the list is endless, and she had her head up her ass the whole time. Then the government tries to help the uninsured and this bitch has a conniption? What a poor excuse for a human being in every respect.
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:49 PM
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29. Oh, my stars!
Why would anyone want to go up against Lawrence O'Donnell in a battle of facts -- especially this dim-witted, "not that smart", little girl? Oh hang on. Just answered my own question.

Never mind.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:10 PM
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71. Because she probably never heard of Lawrence O'Donnell before yesterday.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:32 PM
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40. she probably caught some RW radio or Fox
and it got her riled up, so then she watched a few more times and it got her even more riled up. So she went to the town hall and spewed a few basic RW lines without having a clue what she was talking about. It happens and that's what that propaganda is designed to do. Get people frightened and irrational and riled up over something when they don't even really know what they are mad about.

O'Donnell was nice to her, he could have went and torn her apart, but it wouldn't have looked good. He would have came off as a jerk picking on somebody who didn't know much about politics and nothing would have really came out of it. It's different than say if he had on a GOP pundit or somebody like that, she's a regular person who is a victim of GOP tactics and her own ignorance. Instead he just let her talk and she obviously didn't have much to say and show any type of knowledge of anything. All she did was prove that her comments at the town hall were nothing but irrational fear and ignorance.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:32 PM
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46. She's a Beck "912er"
...has been since February '09, and was almost certanly a fan of his before then.

http://www.meetup.com/WeSurroundThemGathering/members/3510141/
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:07 PM
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77. She's been a member of Beck's 'movement' since 2006 so she lied
about not being political until recently. And we don't what she was doing before that. I don't believe she paid no attention to the wars, torture, the crusade against Muslims or any of the other Bush policies. She was following Beck closely for three years, so there's no way she didn't hear his views on all those issues.

According to her website, where it's clear she's a leader in this 'movement', they're 'studying the Constitution'. I don't think she's as dumb as she looks (and acts). I know it's not saying much, but she's smarter than the birthers eg. She's playing a role, of 'innocent citizen'. She's ignorant, that's obvious but smart enough to play this game and to lie about her involvement in politics.

If she had said she was for the war, she would have had to explain how she wants to go 'back to the Constitution' and the country the 'Founding Fathers wanted' yet, support everything they were so against such as getting involved in 'foreign wars' etc.

They were planning on her website to go to Specter's meeting, and one of her cohorts speaks about how they used words like 'angry, frightened etc.' Plus she was reading from a script. This is not an innocent citizen, frightened and angry. She's an actress and a liar and they ought to invite her back now that she's been exposed and ask her to explain why she pretended to be so unaware.

She never revealed her relationship to Glenn Beck either. I'd like to hear her defend that lunacy. She is everything the Founding Fathers feared.

There's nothing more dangerous than ignorance in action someone once said, and people like her and her mentor, Beck are a perfect example of that.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:14 PM
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79. Not saying you're wrong, but for accuracy...
...the page I linked to gave a Feb. 09 date for her joining the meetup group.

She'd joined Meetup.com in 2006, but it didn't detail her activities.

Do you have other information that puts her as a Beck group member in '06?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:13 PM
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84. Good point. While it does show (in your link) that her membership
for meet-ups goes back to 2006, there is no information on her activities, which doesn't mean there were none.

A post from her site:

http://lebanonpa912project.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-not-to-tune-out

I was speaking with one of our group members today and admitted that I have been "tuning out" to what has been going on the past couple of months. It has become to overwhelming to me what is becoming of this country and our government. I have not watched the news, listened to much radio, and avoided anything even mentioning the government/politics for fear my head may truly explode. Finally the other day I turned on Glenn Beck. A woman had called in and asked for guidance. Glenn simply stated "go with your heart." For each of us it may be a different calling. The first thing that came to my head was dealing with Tim Holden. He is our congressman. He is accountable to us. Is anyone of this same mindset? What are your thoughts on where you personally feel a need to act? Just food for thought. I am now tuned back in. Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand. It is so easy to do though.


That was July. I tuned out for a few months also, can't say I was very political until the Bush crowd hi-jacked the country. But after the election I took a break for a while. To 'tune out' you have to have been 'tuned in' at some point. Seemsd to me that her party, which I'm sure is the Repub. Party, were pretty crestfallen at the huge losses they suffered in Nov. and she, like so many other Repubs were simply depressed and lost as far as what to do next. Then along came Glenn to lead them out of the wilderness. What changed so much to send her into withdrawal from something she says she was not involved in, other than the power shift in DC?

Her Congressmember is a Dem. Odd that someone could ignore the turmoil in the country for so long, and issues she claims she cares about, like the bail-outs and the destruction of the Constitution yet, only wake up when a Democrat is in the WH.

It's possible that she really is completely clueless I suppose, I might have been giving her more credit than she is due. But you are right, it doesn't say she was active since 2006 when she opened that account so for accuracy's sake, as you say, best to go with what can be proven. It doesn't change the fact that she is a follower of Glenn Beck and is an organizer of these events. She didn't just show up there as an angry, scared citizen. Nor does it explain her complaining about dropping out around the time of the shift from Repub to Dem in DC.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:39 PM
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88. thanks for the info
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 02:36 PM
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41. This is why I always say O'Donnell needs his own show...
he always get right to the main points even though I wish he would have asked her a few more things..
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:19 PM
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45. does anyone else
think this debate is becoming one sided. All I'm hearing from is the opposition. Have only seen one video where a citizen stood up for the public option quoting Article I Section 8. Seems we need to start hearing from the pro views more.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:40 PM
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50. Yes, Katy. Let's repeal all of those programs the Founding Fathers wouldn't want us to have.
Let's leave everything in the hands of the hallowed "free market." You know, the pharmaceuticals, the for-profit hospitals, the insurance companies, the banks and investment companies...you know, the organizations that got us into this mess.

At Specter's town hall meeting, she looked like the classic case of someone coming to the event with a burr up her butt, compliments of Beck or some other RW talk show. Doesn't really know what she's talking about, but by god, she's mad and it's because of what Glen Beck told me to be mad at.

The truth be known, if you'd isolate these people throwing their conniptions at the town hall meetings, I'm convinced the majority of them would stammer and stutter around and sound completely clueless on the issues just like Abram did in this video.
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robbie233 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:41 PM
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51. Do away with Medicare......
Based on this interview what’s next? Will the republicans and the big insurance companies want to do away with other socialized medical programs like Medicare?

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MarinCoUSA Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:45 PM
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52. I genuinely admire Katy for appearing. But she is so ignorant and stupid.
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 03:45 PM by MarinCoUSA
Don't intend to give offense, but whatever rain drops of knowledge have fallen into Katy Adams's cupped hands has surly slipped away.
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:48 PM
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53. Not too bright
is she?
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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:52 PM
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55. That's an understatement! nt
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MarinCoUSA Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:57 PM
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56. Katy Adams! Who helped you write the question you asked? WHO? WHO?
Just as the media was starting to notice that most of the tea baggers screaming at the town halls were angry old white folks, comes now the lovely young Katey Adams. She stands there and reads this question and goes off script only when she starts raging. Check it out.

After I saw in front of Specter I wondered if she had any help. And listening to this interview with O, I am even more suspicious.
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nichole51 Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 02:09 PM
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93. re: Katy Adams! Who helped you write the question you asked? WHO? WHO?
"Reads this question" and "goes off script"? A lot of people, including the young girl in Colorado, write down what they want to say so they don't forget a point and people on both sides of the issue start raging. "Suspicious"? Come on. Do we want to solve the problem or complain about the other side? Facts win debates, not suspicions.
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:00 PM
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57. "...Maybe I'm just not that smart..."
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 04:04 PM by keepCAblue
You said it, Katy. Oy!

That which she read at the town hall meeting was scripted by the RNC and/or their minions. Katy could never have written anything that coherent or literate herself, made quite obvious in this video. And did she talk about all the "good people" she knows who go on missions, yadayadayada? Which means she is likely an Evangelical Christian or Mormon, both groups of which have been and continue to suck the balls of Rove, Reed, et. al.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:25 PM
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58. Well handled interview by O'Donnell. Illustrates effect of propaganda.
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:36 PM
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60. Makes me want to choke a bitch =/
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:40 PM
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61. This woman was just outclassed 1 million to 1. What an imbecile.

She only gets interested in politics now...sort of...after 8 years o Bush and war?


She's a lying sack of shit.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:47 PM
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62. Kick...very important ... thanks for posting..sure, let's repeal social security..
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 04:48 PM by Stuart G
I'd better add this....:sarcasm:
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:02 PM
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63. I'm just an unfrozen caveman lawyer
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 05:22 PM by Grinchie
"Your single payer health care proposal frightens and confuses me."

If Phil Hartman were still alive...

Announcer: < over SUPER > "One hundred thousand years ago, a caveman was out hunting on the frozen wastes when he slipped and fell into a crevasse. In 1988, he was discovered by some scientists and thawed out. He then went to law school and became.. Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.

Jingle: "He used to be a caveman,
but now he's a lawyer.
Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer!"

Announcer: Brought to you by.. Gas Plus - actually gives you gas, for those times when you feel like being the joker; and by National Escort Services - if we don't get a prostitute to your door in 15 minutes, you don't pay; and by Happy Fun Ball - still legal in 16 states - it's legal, it's fun, it's Happy Fun Ball! And now, tonight's episode of "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer".

< open on interior, courtroom, the Judge banging her gavel >

Judge: Mr. Cirroc, are you ready to give your summation?

Cirroc: < stepping out> It's just "Cirroc", your Honor.. and, yes, I'm ready. < approaches the jury box > Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm just a caveman. I fell on some ice and later got thawed out by some of your scientists. Your world frightens and confuses me! Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic make me want to get out of my BMW.. and run off into the hills, or wherever.. Sometimes when I get a message on my fax machine, I wonder: "Did little demons get inside and type it?" I don't know! My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts. But there is one thing I do know - when a man like my client slips and falls on a sidewalk in front of a public library, then he is entitled to no less than two million in compensatory damages, and two million in punitive damages. Thank you.

Judge: The jury will now retire to deliberate.

Jury Foreman: < standing > Your Honor.. we don't need to retire. Cirroc's words are just as true now as they were in his time. We give him the full amount.

< the jury applauds Cirroc >

Judge: Did you hear that, Mr. Cirroc?

Cirroc: < cell phone to his ear > Hang on a second.. < to the judge > I-I'm sorry, your Honor. I was listening to the magic voices coming out of this strange modern invention! < smiles maliciously to the camera >

Announcer: This has been "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer". Join us next week for another episode. Here's a scene.

< cut to Cirroc and his caveman family standing before a podium at a political rally >

Cirroc: Thank you! Thank you very much, thank you! First of all, let me say how happy I am to be your nominee for the United States Senate! < applause > You know.. thank you.. I don't really understand your Congress, or your system of checks and balances.. because, as I said during the campaign - I'm just a caveman! I fell on some ice, and later got thawed out by scientists. But there is one thing I do know - we must do everything in our power to lower the Capitol Gains Tax. Thank you!

Announcer: Next time, on "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer".


I find it ironic that skits from SNL illustrate the lunacy of the lobbiests working for the Health Care Lobby.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:18 PM
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80. A picture is worth a thousand words






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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:34 PM
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68. Hmm. Hubby does all the finances. She hasn't a clue what their yearly income is.
Better check to see if hubby's flying down to Argentina or hiking the Appalachian Trail on occasion. Those are the kind of devout Xian husbands who have a family or three scattered across the globe.

This lady reminds me of the soccer moms who infested our old neighborhood in NJ. They knew only what their husbands told them, and their husbands were all Rs. Worse, they were Rs who admired politicians who "got things done," even if that meant breaking the law. They admired the fact that pols got away with their crimes.

I just can't imagine a situation where you don't involve your spouse in the family finances. Unless you're a billionaire who gives wifey a $20-MM a year expense account to stay thin, buy expensive lingerie, have sex at the drop of a hat and not ask any questions, it seems awfully 19th century to me.

Oops. Make that, 1st century.
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Akio78 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:38 PM
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74. "...Maybe I'm just not that smart..."
Ladies & Gentlemen, the new Republican 2012 Presidential Candidate
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:51 PM
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76. She is Sarah Palin version 2.0
Jesus..
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:10 PM
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78. New and Improved!
Now 50% less Batshit crazy, but 50% more medicaated!
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Independent_Patriot Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:00 PM
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82. Just another AM radio swill drinker
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 08:07 PM by Independent_Patriot
As with Sarah Palin, who similarly could not answer the most basic questions, the Right is now rushing to Katy Abram’s defense.
Glenn Beck condemned Hardball today for, “putting her through a buzz saw.”
He continued, “what a surprise what NBC did to her last night…”
Today, a distraught Abram called into Beck’s radio show and read a letter she intended for him.
In it, she bemoaned Lawrence O’Donell’s "tough" line of questioning, saying:

“Last evening I went on MSNBC's Hardball with Lawrence O'Donnell. The lamb walked into the lion's den knowing she could be eaten alive. The lion pounced. The lamb is still alive. But is questioning why she would have placed herself in such danger. I new Hardball would be difficult but I want those who don't watch the channels that I watch to hear from a normal American.”

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I’m sorry, but O’Donell was anything BUT giving her the third degree.
In fact, his gentleman-ly tact bordered on being unctuous.
Also, can someone tell me what kind of apolitical housewife writes letters to Glenn Beck?
As suspected, the woman is an AM radio meatpuppet.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/29355/
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:10 PM
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83. Oh please! To my knowledge, nobody put a gun to her head and made her go on the show.
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 08:13 PM by bulloney
I think she was so full of herself from the town meeting, thinking she really put Sen. Specter in his place and got all of that applause from the audience that she thought she could say some zingers and put O'Donnell in his place, too. Despite O'Donnell going WAY easy on her, she still came across like the stammering, stuttering, Beck-disciple ignoramus that she is.

Then, she writes to Beck and cries, "Waaaaah! The big bad librul Hardball host was mean to me!"

She's a Beck toadie and acts a lot like Palin. What a combination! With credentials like that, why doesn't she just stamp "IDIOT" across her forehead?

And another thing, do any of the news gerbils expose these people and report on who they really are? No. It's just too easy making it look like everyone's angry at health care reform.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 09:16 AM
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90. "Thanks for the recs" kick
:blush:
rocktivity
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newmac Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 09:33 AM
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91. Why does the rest of the country have to be dragged down to her level of ignorance???
Why does the rest of the country have to be dragged down to her level of ignorance???
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 04:04 PM
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95. For the love of the FSM
I am speechless
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