SNL Tiger Woods: Mocking Domestic Violence

[Nikki Stone1]

Run time: 04:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI8lJlWsURA   Posted on YouTube: December 07, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: December 07, 2009 By DU Member: Nikki Stone1 Views on DU: 3742

 
I really don't like this skit at all. It makes fun of domestic violence. UNREC if you agree.

[msongs]

1. sometimes bad things happen to adulterers - just ask john mccain nt

[Nikki Stone1]

2. It's the principle. Reverse the roles and see if you feel the same.

I really find it repulsive.

[comtec]

18. What an oddly refreshing point of view

it feels like, on here, that no one cares, or even mocks when men are beaten by their wives. they're not manly enough, or some such.

did tiger have it coming... does any wife? I mean seriously people.

K & unrec as per your request. but personally I think this should goto the greatest because the fact tht we tolerate men being beaten w/o outrage is intolerable imho.

[NYC_SKP]

47. What you said.

You'd think progressives would be more, um, progressive.

:shrug:

[Captain Hilts]

26. I agree, though I acknowledge the reverse is not equal in most cases. nt

[NYC_SKP]

3. Yeah, right, like it's deserved. Peachy, just fucking peachy. n/t

[NYC_SKP]

4. Kick and Unrec, per your advice. This shit is sick, don't need to watch it.

I'll be dead before our culture gets the point that ALL domestic violence is unacceptable.

sigh.

[tabatha]

10. That includes psychological dv.

[trixie]

12. inlcuding children!

[Chris Crew]

13. Its hard to argue that SNL was advocating domestic violence

They were making light of the continued revelations of Tiger's many mistresses.

Although I agree it would not be funny if the roles were reversed, they were not. Its important to recognize that we live in a terribly gendered society where women who are cheated on often do not stand up for themselves. If Tiger (the professional athlete) got hit a couple times with a gold club by his very petite wife for having him unimaginably embarrass her all over the national media, I don't think we should be going after his wife for domestic violence.

Ultimately, the reason the SNL skit was funny was because it deconstructed and reversed typical gender roles. That is often where comedians find their humor. The idea that this made people feel sick surprises me.

[Taitertots]

19. "women who are cheated on often do not stand up for themselves"

Beating someone with a golf club is NOT standing up for themselves. It is domestic violence and it is sick.

She deserves prison just as much as a husband would for beating a cheating wife. As if somehow a little embarrassment is a justification for violence.

[Froward69]

27. Agreed

She was not "embarrassed" until after she attacked him. even then why should she be embarrassed for his cheating? she attacked him! she should be embarrassed for attacking him.

she should do some serious jail tome and complete the DV class and realize NO relationship is "healthy". (according to the class)

[Chris Crew]

36. Comparing apples and oranges

I think we can agree that being cheated on with a half-dozen women across the country would be embarrassing to anyone, even before it made every major news outlet in the world...

The idea that in a fit of rage over this she scratched his face and hit him in the shoulder with the gold club seems far from what most would consider domestic violence. I can't imagine any court anywhere convicting her for this.

This is entirely different than the typical domestic violence case for one clear reason: the power dynamic within their relationship. Tiger is the rich and famous professional athlete with almost all of the power (physical and otherwise). For her to hit him is not the same as for him to hit her. The comparison trivializes the plight of battered women. Does anyone really feel bad for Tiger? Do people really think she deserves "serious jail time"?

Clearly, violence of any kind should not be condoned, but that doesn't mean we should see all violence as equal. Nor does it mean that we can't find humor when typical gender roles are reversed.

I thought the skit was funny, but would not if the situation was reversed.

[Froward69]

40. I do not care who

Has the money, "power" or the penis/vagina in the relationship
Violence is violence period.


you are excusing her violent behavior BECAUSE she has the vagina.
really by your rationale if she were the billionaire athlete and he attacked her he should be excused? BULLSHIT.

It is this double standard that makes the domestic Violence laws such a biased joke.

I thought the skit was funny. I just wish Tiger had pressed real charges.

if I had my divorce to do over I would have cleaned out the bank account and gone out of town. instead of what happened. the day after my soon to be ex learned that the DNA test came back and I was not liable for child support. I was arrested... after her new boyfriend beat her face bloody and they told the cops I did it. that was a Thursday. by the time I got out of jail that next Monday. the accounts were drained... She admitted on the stand during my Trial that my hands were bigger then the bruises in the photos of her face and it was her boyfriend/coke dealer who did the beating.

so because of the biased DV laws. I endured
Loss of $50,000 stolen out of the bank. (she already had her $50,000 half and contrived a way to bilk me out of mine.) another $25,000 in legal fees and DV classes.

why anyone would ever want to get married? it just is not worth it.

[polly7]

44. Well stated.

Besides the damage to him ... this will affect her children exactly as it would if he had beaten her. There's no way they won't find out about it. If she beat him .... and with a golf club???? she's got some problems that should be legal. He was wrong, she was more wrong. Get a damn divorce.

[Taitertots]

5. That is sick

What kind of sick person would laugh at that?

[liquid diamond]

17. Me.

It's fucking comedy.

[polly7]

46. I don't get it either. Not one person here would laugh at

anyone clubbing a dog, or a cat ...... a human being is a different story for some reason.

[Double T]

6. Rolling on the floor FUNNY!!

Woods ia an arrogant idiot and his wife should do more than club him.

[zerox]

7. Rolling on the floor FUNNY!!

Elin is an arrogant idiot and her husband should do more than club her.

Still rolling on the floor funny? Are you really going to condone "more than" the beating of a spouse?

[Double T]

11. Oh please........

the SNL skit is funny at least 5 times over! Woods is lucky he is still alive.

[CatWoman]

29. I agree

when I saw it I howled :rofl:

[WileEcoyote]

38. One of my complaints about fellow Liberals

is how they invoke the double standard on spousal abuse.

Men generally don't get beaten. Or not as much. However they do get nagged, dominated and bullied in other ways. It can make him miserable, drive him crazy or to early grave. Common problem!

Now most married men will agree with that statement and it is very true. But a common enough response of the D/U moderators will be to censor the remark. Maybe even to go as far as issuing me a warning. Could happen.

Tiger had his reasons for seeking the company of other women. It is his business. Same as if his wife Elin had "strayed". We put so many negative labels on ordinary human behavior. Its like men are heels and women are sluts. We're screwed as it is just for being normal. Whats up with that stuff?

But I admit the story made me chuckle. Almost cut myself shaving. have to be careful.

Speaking of careful: When I was married I never got caught. Sly as a Tom cat and good with an excuse. Never even generated much suspicion.

But then I'm a Coyote. We're crafty & careful if nothing else. Good sense of smell too.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

16. You can't have a double standard. Beatings do not solve problems.

[polly7]

45. What if she'd hit him in the temple and killed him?

[tabatha]

8. It is typical slapstick comedy.

Unfortunately, it does not help their situation.
I think people's private lives should be left alone.

[teseal]

9. SNL Tiger Woods

I loved the skit. To me it was poking fun at those of us who fell for the staged car accident -- myself included.

[SpartanDem]

14. Grow a sense of humor

I laughed my ass off during that skit.

[peacetalksforall]

15. Not funny. Sorry I watched it.

[davidpdx]

20. I agree it does make fun of DV and that is bad

But one of the things that is kind of funny is it does point out is Tiger Woods is lying about something. I do think that is true. I don't think it is DV per se, I think his wife did his the car with the golf club.

[chelsea0011]

21. Oh, please.

SNL would have been off the air years ago if they didn't do this sort of humor. Chevy Chase once did a report from a ski mountain where Christine Longet was shooting skiers as they went down the slopes. Everytime a skiier fell Chase would say, "Christine Longet just shot another one". This was after she was accused of shooting Spider Savitch, a skiier and her lover, during the week.

[HERVEPA]

28. That was a great skit

I think the actual verbiage might have been "another skier accidentally shot by Claudine Longet".
I think it was supposed to be Jim McKay describing it. For those unfamiliar (assuming my memory is correct) she allegedly accidentally shot her boyfriend, the skier Spider Sabich.

[chelsea0011]

43. thanks for correcting me with the names. I knew I was close but

also knew I was wrong about them. And you are correct, that was the line. I think it was the first season of SNL.

[HERVEPA]

48. You're welcome. I believe she was Andy Williams' wofe or

ex-wife.

[quark219]

22. There's nothing offensive about this skit; in no way is it making the case that abuse is okay

Had Tiger Woods been convicted of beating his wife, or vice versa, then sure, I'd be unrecommending this skit per your request--but that's not the case. The heart of this skit's comedy is the implausible stories that were initially told about the accident. Nothing whatsoever in this skit suggests physical abuse is acceptable.

If we're going to frown on all comedy that touches on unacceptable behavior, are we going to stop laughing at any film, book, movie, or skit that makes reference to adultery, theft, greed, vanity, or lying?

[Faygo Kid]

24. Agreed.

Give me a break here.

[NYC_SKP]

42. True, it doesn't make the case that it's OK, it Makes the Case that it's Funny.

And if it's funny, well, how bad could it really be?

[Krashkopf]

23. LOL - The police asked Elin how many times she hit Tiger with the club . . .

and she said "I don't know. Put me down for a 5."

Lighten up folks!

[mrbarber]

25. Rihanna was the musical guest that night.

Kinda ironic, eh?

[Nikki Stone1]

35. I didn't know that. That's makes it worse.

...

[Jester Messiah]

30. It's SNL, they mock things.

By being controversial, they put the spotlight on the issue. Isn't that preferable to letting it scroll off the bottom of our ADHD society's attention stack?

[NYC_SKP]

31. Appalled at the responses defending this as an acceptable way to get a giggle.

WTF?

Though I haven't watched the clip, SNL is usually pretty weak and cheap humor...

...Just the image: woman with club, man with sling and beaten face.

Ha Ha Ha Ha...

Our culture sucks...

[Nikki Stone1]

37. Watch the clip. It's not just a 10 second gag.

.

[NYC_SKP]

39. Ah. "Tiger Woods is BACK in the Hospital." Well hardy har. Serial Domestic Violence ROCKS!

It's always so much more funny when it's ESCALATING Domestic Violence.

:sarcasm:

[Nikki Stone1]

41. Exactly.

It gets worse and worse. For women who've been through this, the escalation must be a familiar sight. That's how it happens.

[Crowman1979]

32. Just another bad SNL skit. It's not as tasteless as a Derek & Clive album.

SNL is weaksauce inc.! If you really wanna be shocked, listen to one of their albums or watch "Derek & Clive Get The Horn" on DVD.

[gratefultobelib]

33. Oh, what the heck. I thought it was funny!

[BakedAtAMileHigh]

34. simple solution: don't watch it!

It's sick I tell you! Here: watch it! Watch it again!


You seem to spend your days being very angry at what you see on television. I used to be the same way until I hit on a unique solution: TURN THE F**KING THING OFF. You will feel better, I promise.