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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:11 PM
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Obama Warns Govt 'Will Go Bankrupt' Without the Lieberman Bill
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It sounds like to me that the White House was completely caught off guard by his own party's resistance to this slowly weakening plan. Charlie Gibson asks if Obama feels like he is being held hostage by individual Senators (read Lieberman)... he denies that it is a problem. He then goes on to try to scare the very Americans who are watching the interview on TV...

"If we don't pass it - here's the guarantee... that the people who are watching tonight, your premiums will go up, your employers are going to load up more costs on you, potentially they are going to drop your coverage because they just can't afford an increase of 25... 30 percent in terms of the cost of providing health care to employees each and every year... and the Federal government WILL go bankrupt..."

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Why if I didn't know better, I think the transformation to Fearmonger-in-Chief has been accomplished
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:17 PM
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1. OR, we could fund health care with the money we're spending
in Afghanistan.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:41 AM
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28. Yes but then we couldn't stop the Pashtuns from oppressing the Hazara which we really care about
for some reason that has nothing to do with geopolitics, oil, heroin, military contracts, and expansion.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:17 PM
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2. Fear mongering worthy of George W Bush - he isbecoming more like him everyday!
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 10:18 PM by debbierlus
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:06 AM
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23. I was going to write the same thing. Thanks
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:20 PM
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3. Maybe he'll fire Joe Biden and replace him with Dick Cheney....
He has always been great at terrifying Americans into screwing themselves. That should do just fine.

I hope to god some progressives stand their ground.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:22 PM
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4. So, maybe when it becomes really apparent that health care is
about to consume the entire federal budget, Congress will get serious about a public option or single payer plan. Those are the only ways to cut the fat out of the health care costs to the federal budget.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:23 PM
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5. yup.....
Meet the New Fearmonger-in-chief...same as the old Fearmonger-in-Chief.
If this is change..I am a saint. :P
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:30 PM
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6. It's CHANGE for sure. Changing 30 million uninsured Americans into paying customers
of Big Insurance.

May I call you Saint Winyanstaz?

B-)
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:38 PM
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9. Naw...YOU can call me St. Staz...(it means Eyes/Looks)
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 10:48 PM by winyanstaz
;)
I yield to your logic...It is changing citizens into paying slaves alright.....dang it..
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:44 PM
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21. St. Staz has a nice ring to it.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:32 PM
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7. Wow...at the end he pretty much sounds like he's gonna hatchet Medicare/Medicaid
because he says we can't afford them. What is going on with him? :shrug:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:44 PM
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10. He said it.
Peddling fear.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:17 AM
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38. If we are so fucking broke -- why aren't there cost controls in the bill
and why can't the government negotiate pharma rates? I smell bullshit. As if people are not already broke enough. Clue to Obama-- Main St. did not get TARP! We haven't even seen a quarter of your so-called stimulus! We've lost over 2 fucking million manufacturing jobs since you won the election!!!! Tell us about running out of money, we could school you. You think we are scared about running out of money, many of us have been run out of our homes.

Personally, I think we should re-erect Hooverville across from the White House.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:30 AM
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39. I'm lighting a scented candle, because I smell bullshit, too.
I couldn't agree with you more.

I think it's time to do the time honored "writing" to my legislators, which I'm sure will turn their heads around!

This is disgusting beyond belief.
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Billsmile Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:35 PM
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8. Fear?
I thought that Obama claimed to strongly be against the politics of fear.

Maybe he meant only when it worked against his party.
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Sunnyshine Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:47 PM
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11. Good grief! One hardly recongize this man from the guy I rallied for a year ago.
It's like something/someone invaded his body and mind to ratchet up the double speak. Hard to watch this happen to us.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:49 PM
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13. Obama.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:36 AM
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40. Invasion of Body Snatchers....Possessed...
Totally Bizarre.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:49 PM
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12. What bull shit! If the bill passes our insurance rates will go way up!

The bill has been written by the insurance industry and Big Pharma!

Well, it was written by the health care industry whores in Congress with the lobbyists looking over their shoulders .... just making sure it met their requirements.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:44 PM
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20. Our costs are going to go up and the WH is going to take a swipe at entitlements
Gotta cater to the too much spending on social programs crowd.

It's more than the fearmongering.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:51 PM
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14. He's right. It's honesty, not fear mongering. n/t
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audas Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:06 AM
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25. how does it feel to be the LAST one in the room to get stuff -
must be pretty annoying constantly standing around wondering what the hell people are talking about.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:53 PM
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15. Let the banks keep more of the they were supposed to repay; endless war, etc. This is another low.
from a Democrat. The nearest thing I can think of is Lyndon Johson betraying the country.
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:09 PM
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16. I'm holding my toungue to say a big "FU" to Obama =/
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:33 AM
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Reform Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:11 PM
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17. what the hell
In so many words.....
either vote for the shriveled down bill or America will collapse?
wow
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:38 PM
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19. now he`s a liar....?

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:04 AM
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22. It sounds like the cost curve will bend on the backs of consumers....
How is it that only the banks get a bail out, the pharmacies get a bailout, the consumer-not at all.....
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:11 AM
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24. Disappointing, yet
not surprising anymore.

Things are going to get much worse before they get better.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:13 AM
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26. flat out lie...If the nation is in such bad financial shape why goto war!
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:47 AM
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29. If we are going bankrupt then Obama needs to cut the Pentagons funds FIRST!
He could balance the budget with that three trillion they lost just before 9-11.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:32 AM
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30. Quitcha dayum WARS then and spend the money on health care instead
How I interpret this threat - is that it is meant to force us all to swallow an UNACCEPTABLE "health care reform" bill that is even more IMMORAL than the current system, and that is only a GIVEAWAY to for-profit insurance companies (MORE corprat welfare) and which does NOTHING to control costs and which is only going to make the problem WORSE.

Stuff your threats O'Bomber. Nincompoop.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:43 AM
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twitomy Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:07 AM
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32. Memo to the Prez....
The Federal Govt is 11 TRILLION in debt, thanks in part to YOU, and is ALREADY FREAKIN BANKRUPT!!

Good God what alternate reality do politicians come from????
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:45 AM
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33. He's simply full of shit here.
Astonishing.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:02 AM
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35. The Lobbyists and Norquist/Emmanuel are going after Medicare/Medicaid next...
If they get this bill...they will cut services to millions ....so we don't go Bankrupt!
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:04 AM
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36. This guy's sounding more like Bush every day.
Now he's reduced to scare tactics. Someone needs to tell him that only works on conservatives and the Democratic Party Faithful. The rest of us just don't buy it. Don't believe me? Look at your poll numbers, President Change.
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Vermontgrown Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:06 AM
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37. If only
They would have listened to Senator Sanders, just maybe that kind of base logic could make The senate understand, but I doubt that. It has become obvious that our government officials are lining their deep pockets with lobbyist money and their portfolios mean way more to them than the American people. So, people, nothing is going to get done by these assholes. In the end they will all side with big insurance and we will all be told to shut the fuck up and take what we give you or we'll just make things even worse.I keep hereing war cries and it ain't going to be oversea's .
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:39 AM
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41. The NSS Award (no shit Sherlock)
....they are going to drop your coverage because they just can't afford an increase of 25... 30 percent in terms of the cost of providing health care to employees each and every year...


Then open medicare to all and quit letting Big Insurance write the laws... seems simple enough...?

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:45 AM
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42. Sounds like mis-truth to me.
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 09:46 AM by peacetalksforall
In a Halloween store.

And throughout all of this, we have had no comparisons of costs.

Delivered witohout proof of anything.

And 'tney' want us to keep on buying. War weapons first followed by more tv's and gadgets, jewelry, fashion, food, travel, tickets, grills, houses, cars, education. Cuz we're going to be so healthy.

Notice, he wasn't speaking to our needs at all.

Was this shown this morning?
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:11 AM
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43. Weaksauce + No Balls = Obama Administration
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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:10 PM
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44. Primary Challenge Time.
2010 is gonna be awful for the Democrats, and if they get a GOP Congress again heaven help him, because their first order of business will be impeaching him. This is worse than awful.

Howard Dean - do yourself and America a huge favor, and run a primary challenge against him. That will (hopefully) get the message across.
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