Matthews: Netroots 'Get Their Giggles' From 'Bitching'

[babylonsister]

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http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/17/matthews-giggling/

Matthews: The netroots ‘get their giggles from sitting in the backseat and bitching.’


Today on MSNBC’s Hardball, Chris Matthews brought on John Heilemann from the New Yorker to talk about President Obama’s popularity with Democrats. When Heilemann noted that the “Democratic left” has been “trashing the health care bill” this week, Matthews said that those people were part of the “netroots” and not “regular grown-up Democrats”:

MATTHEWS: I don’t consider them Democrats, I consider them netroots, and they’re different. And if I see that they vote in every election or most elections, I’ll be worried. But I’m not sure that they’re regular grown-up Democrats. I think that a lot of those people are troublemakers who love to sit in the backseat and complain. They’re not interested in governing this country. They never ran for office, they’re not interested in working for somebody in public office. They get their giggles from sitting in the backseat and bitching.

[tomm2thumbs]

1. if I hadn't just seen it, I wouldn't believe it - dismissing his audience like that?

does he REALLY think republicans are watching his show - and the lead in to the Ed Show is filled with back seat gripers who don't vote?

wow - his utter stupidity fails him

and this after calling West Point 'the enemy camp' - is Glenn Beck hiring?

[anAustralianobserver]

6. yeah! does he think the 'netroots' are just youtube commenters or something? weird nt

[Hissyspit]

2. Ha, ha. What an idiot.

Matthews is a 'regular grown-up Democrat' who had orgasms over George W. Bush.
What absolute nonsense.

[debbierlus]

16. He made a fool of himself last night with Dean - Dean tried to discuss the bill

And, he kept over & over & over saying he was afraid to take on Lieberman.

It was the sorriest most pathetic thing.

He also claimed Bernacke was responsible for saving the economy. He is an embarrassment to MSNBC.

[mystieus]

3. Matthews got it right. I wish netroots would vote more.

[Bucky]

38. And show up more and protest more and, yes, bitch more (but let's do so OFF line, please)

[Enrique]

4. and the netroots raised a shitload of money for Obama

Tweety's just upset because the netroots knows he's ridiculous. Without the netroots he'd be considered a serious journalist.

[SoxFan]

5. He's right

Spend 5 minutes in GD or GDP and you realize this. There's a group of ill-informed, fundamentally unserious brats who are going to be Obama's undoing if this shit doesn't stop.

[NJmaverick]

21. You got that right

[Indenturedebtor]

36. Damn straight we'll be Obama's undoing if this shit doesn't stop

We had a lot to do with putting him in office and we'll have a lot to do with NOT putting him back into office if this shit doesn't stop.

I spent a lot of money I didn't even have, and a lot of time that I should have been sleeping working for the Obama campaign. If he doesn't veto this crap I'm taking my ball and going home.

[SoxFan]

43. I'll alert the media

LOOK AT ME! I'M AN INTERNET ACTIVIST! FEAR ME! FEAR ME!

[Indenturedebtor]

49. Hehe always loved that pic. I think that many if not most of us do things offline as well

Such as make phone calls, canvass streets, donate money, do data entry, etc.

Go ahead and side with tweety if you want - posting on boards doesn't matter but most don't post if they don't care. People who care tend to do, or not do things to help with campaigns. Piss them off enough and they tend to do things to work AGAINST campaigns.

So during the Obama campaign the online work was pivotal, but now that the net roots is turning against his corporate bullshit we're insignificant?

Huh?

[Raineyb]

45. Bullshit!

I've been voting since I turned 18. Tweety is talking out of his ass which is not really unusual for him. Quite frankly, I find him to be like a dog that tries to hump everything, generally annoying and only occasionally getting it right. There's nothing on any person that would scream "net roots" and the same people who bitch online were also bitching offline as well but when they did so they were ignored. Tweety can take his analysis and shove it up his ass since it's not worth shit to begin with.

[SemperEadem]

7. and what does one call what Matthews does every

goddamn day at 5pm? Hardball is nothing but an hour long bitch session by an overpaid, overweight doughy-bodied nimrod.

[Mithreal]

8. I think we hit a nerve.

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[Forkboy]

10. Projection. It's all he does for a living.

[Vinnie From Indy]

11. Tweety is now and always has been mentally ill

Seriously!

He is dead wrong, but that has NEVER stopped him before. Maybe he should just pull out that picture of GW Bush in his flight suit and admire his codpiece some more.

[Umbral]

12. "They're not interested in governing..." WTF?

No wonder Matthews' and his show are so fucking insufferable, he's confused about his job description. He's wants to be a player and all he is is a kibitzer. What an arrogant fuck.

[GreenTea]

13. Bullshit, liberals telling the fucking truth & Mattews, republicans & Dems can't handle liberals who

don't "know their place" and won't keep quiet about the bullshit and business as usual crap....Matthews is just another rich fuck who's extremely happy with the slow good old boys ways of doing things...Matthews is a lying elitist pig...As if we are suppose to do things by his fucking rules and we should have NO power

Matthews is just another beltway bitch who needs a good slap upside his big fucking head....I'm sick of his don't speak up be happy your getting fucked by the people you elected....let them do it, it's for your own good bullshit...i'm sure it makes for good ratings...but fuck them we are NOT keeping quiet and staying in the little box they want us in!!!

Liberals are fucking pissed and we'll say what we feel...Liberals put Obama into the WH and we certainly aren't going to keep quiet and be sold down the river by being passive, AGAIN...

We've seen this bullshit act too many times before & we've complied & shut up too many times before as we watch the corporations get filthy fucking richer while people suffer and get fucked by these same assholes like STATUS QUO MATTHEWS, THE REPUBLICANS AND THEIR BELOVED CORPORATIONS ALL THEY WILL OFFER US AS A WAY TO HELP IS MORE TAX CUTS & GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES FOR THE RICH & THEIR CORPORATIONS ALL COMING FROM THE WORKING PERSONS POCKETS!!

[fascisthunter]

15. that's the attitude we get from people who claim to be important

like a bunch of conceited posers who really have no merit nor a convincing argument. I'm sure there were plenty of Guffaws...

[GreenTea]

26. They should stay in their little holes!

[debbierlus]

17. Nice summary!

[GreenTea]

27. Thanks.

[rudy23]

14. Alright Chris, you wanna play with netroots? Let's play.

Let's see who wins.

[julian09]

22. Matthews hasn't followed healthcare that much

He spends his time speculating on Palins next or last move. Loves gotcha politics, mostly gossip stuff.
Now he gets in because of all the uproar about healthcare. He wants this to pass because he knows what will happen to dems in 2010 if it does not. Obamas next two years will be difficult and probably his last two years in office, with fewer democrats. What they should do is run liberals in those blue dog states, even if they lose; the dems won't have to be blamed for republican vote they get from republicans.
Right now all the democrats are getting blamed for blue dog democratic tail. They are against the president and their leadership. They are the independents who hold out to be bought out.

[20score]

18. An ad hominem attack is a sure sign of a weak argument, a failure to employ logic

and the last resort of someone that does not fully understand the issue.

Way to go, Tweety.

[theaocp]

19. Tweety's banned

I will never watch his show again. Au revoir, asshole.

[dgibby]

20. Make sure you e-mail MSNBC and tell them that. n/t

[theaocp]

30. will do n/t

[kjones]

28. well...

Generally I think it's better to be knowledgeable about those that oppose and
disagree with you (regardless of their douche-ity).
It's good to know them and their arguments (even when they don't actually have one...well, one that
isn't ad hominem)

[theaocp]

31. always good to keep your enemies closer

but tweety just irritates me and adds nothing to the debate. He's nothing more than a suck-up to power and can take a long walk off a short pier. He's useless.

[kjones]

47. True...

but occasionally he invites someone who does have some semblance of intelligence. Though
he does tend to drown them out...

[mawkish]

23. Grown ups

Grown-ups know that the proper way to govern is to sit back and let K street and Wall street make all the decisions. Insufferable.

[suzanner]

24. Tweety is bipolar?

He's got his weeks of hyperactive, caffeine-overdosed, spitting rants of nonsense and then a day or two of calm, liberalesque sanity, like he suddenly saw his first snowflake. Loony guy- I never watch him.

[Tutankhamun]

25. Now, 54:00 into "Hardball" Matthews says, "I'm a liberal."

We wouldn't be trying to make up for a stupid remark earlier in the show, would we, Christopher?

[bitchkitty]

33. A liberal?

That's rich. He's a liberal like Hillary Clinton is a liberal. Or like Obama is a socialist.

IMHO, between cable news gibbering idiots and the "netroots" - netroots are the ones who know their ass from a hole in the ground.

[jefferson_dem]

29. Ha. That took some big league balls.

Go Tweety!

[mcablue]

32. "thrill up my leg" Matthews doesnt need to bitch about anything, with his $5 million salary

:)

[JDPriestly]

34. For your information, Matthews, I'm 66, a lifelong Democrat and a lawyer.

I speak two languages other than English fluently, have various academic degrees, raised two wonderful children and enjoy a marriage of more than 45 years. In short, I'm a serious person. Matthews, I'll match you any day when it comes to education.

Further, I am not just a back-seat blogger. I have been a delegate to a Democratic State Convention, worked in most of the recent elections, walked precincts, etc. In 2004, on election day alone, I walked three, that's three precincts talking to voters and handing out GOTV literature.

I table for candidates and causes that I believe in -- standing for hours in the cold and the heat talking to people. I know for a fact that I am persuasive and personable and a very effective campaigner.

One of my most memorable experiences was meeting President Carter's mother Lillian while tabling for McGovern many years ago. That's how far back I go.

When is the last time that Matthews met, much less talked to, a grass-roots activist like me? Own up, Matthews. You are a snob. You have lost contact with us real people. You look down on us -- from a height supported only by your salary, not your knowledge or commitment.

Matthews is where he is because he was lucky. I'm sure he worked hard to get himself into a position in which he can opine on how inadequate the rest of us are. But many of us have worked just as hard in our lives but simply not had his luck. Frankly, I think he lacks the qualifications to judge us.

[sybylla]

41. Same here.

Not to mention the fact that a huge majority of the party activists in my state are involved because of Howard Dean. That's why Dean got elected chair. He brought great numbers of activists back to the party when no one else saw it as relevant.

Tweety, et al, dismiss them at their peril.

[unapatriciated]

35. I have spent a lifetime in the "backseat"

but I have not been "Giggling". My time have been spent worrying.
Will my son die while waiting for my Insurance Company to approve needed critical care and medication.
Will my daughter ever see equal rights in her lifetime.
I have spent the last 19 years working for health care reform and 15 years for equal rights for my daughter.
Where were you Chris, 19 years ago when I first started writing letters and speaking out against Health Insurance Companies (not to mention over a ten year battle with my Insurance Company)?
The Media wasn't interested. Only a few were willing to report or fight against the Insurance Companies in the early 90's.
Where were you Chris, 15 years ago (hell where are you today on this issue) when many Gays were being raped, beaten, murdered and our justice system ignored it.

Hell yes I'm bitching, because I no longer want to sit in the backseat while you total the car I spent almost 20 years working for.
But make no mistake I'm not "giggling". I'm angry and this regular grown-up Democrat has no problem taking the keys and driving away. You should be worried because I do vote in every election and have since 1972.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

37. This spittle spewing, elfin little twit

just fucked with the wrong group. He's outlived his usefulness. Time for the Andy Rooney of cable TV get replaced by a voice more in line with the audience.

[anAustralianobserver]

39. Yes, characterising THE MOST CRITICAL PLEAS of people as juvenile giggly bitching

Bizarre that Chris Matthews can empathise with some domains of concern of regular people and be so obliviously dissociated from others.

[dmr]

40. That was insulting. He said it after he was insulted by Rep Weiner

who said Mathews was neither perfect, and not very good at what he does (paraphrasing).

This was in reference to the saying 'don't let the perfect get in the way of the good'

Anyway, I think Weiner's words stung, and Mathews didn't like it. But Mathews was disrespectful to Weiner during the interview.

[_cash_thatswhatiwant]

42. Yes. We like to ask Democrats to grow a damn spine for shits and giggles.

It beats super glueing my lips to the Administration's ass like you have.

[SoxFan]

44. Attention netroots

Howard Dean did not win a single primary west of Burlington and east of Brattleboro. Get over yourselves.

[Downtown Hound]

46. The netroots was right on Iraq, right on Bush, right on the economy,

right on global warming, and will also be proven right on health care. But don't let any of these things get in the way of Matthews making an ass of himself once again.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

48. Mathews got punked tonight by Big Ed and Markos!

waiting for the video

:rofl: