Renowned Theologian Pat Buchanan Defends Brit Hume's Call for Tiger Woods to Convert to Christianity

[democracy1st]

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Renowned Theologian Pat Buchanan Defends Brit Hume's Call for Tiger Woods to Convert to Christianity

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[Teaser]

1. he's stupid. and he's wrong.

forgiveness in Christianity is not "conditional" on dick. Not any Christianity I ever heard of.

[AlbertCat]

8. forgiveness in Christianity is not "conditional"

Ummm.... yes it is.

Damn! Has there ever been a religion who's "followers" don't get it as much as Christianity? There IS a condition. See if you can guess what it might be.

I tell ya, "Christians" will make up any damn thing to avoid the unpleasantries of Christian doctrine

Utterly ridiculous.

[Teaser]

10. read. listen. learn.

I'm not a christian by any normal definition. But Buchanan said that forgiveness "in Christianity" is conditional on making some efforts to reform one's self. Which is doctrinally wrong on its face.

That is the context in which my statement is made. Forgiveness, for a Christian, is achieved not through any individual effort. Forgiveness, doctrinally, is a free gift of God to an individual. Now, various denominations then go on to specify the relative importance of faith vs. works for salvation, but forgiveness is not predicated on anything other than it being offered.

Of course, you do have to be a Christian for it to be offered, in most interpretations. But the operative word phrase is "forgiveness in Christianity", not forgiveness in general.

I don't care whether you believe Christian forgiveness is a real thing. I don't think it is, or that it means anything. As far as I am concerned, it's just words. But those words have an historical sense and range of application and Buchanan's interpretation (and your own) is incorrect.

[rasputin1952]

16. There is only one "condition" for forgivenss, regardless of...

religion or lack thereof.

Forgiveness is total. Once given, there are several aspects that pertain to it:

One who is forgiven, should not do the same transgression again

The forgiver, can not hold the forgiven transgression against the forgiven in the future

Forgiveness is not the property of any specific religion, society, culture, sect, non-religion or anything else...except that it is universal and can be accepted or rejected by the parties involved.




Forgiveness, in it's purest form, is one of the most difficult things a human mind can comprehend. The totality of it goes against human nature. This is why it is so misunderstood and rarely encountered in the grand scheme of things.


edit: dumb typo

[BOSSHOG]

2. Maybe Tiger could convert to limbaugh's christianity

and have sex with children instead of women.

Just why do you go to the Dominican Republic with a suitcase full of Viagra Mr Conservative Values? For the Golf?

[rpannier]

7. He's dealing drugs??? nt

[CrownPrinceBandar]

3. One ignorant ass.............

defending another ignorant ass. Both admitted they knew little to nothing about Buddhism, and yet they saw fit to pundit on it.

[fascisthunter]

4. bigots hang together

[Grassy Knoll]

5. Brit Hume called......

He wants Pat to stop talking , cause he's loosing suction !

[tonysam]

6. Where was Pat 30 or 40 years ago when he could have converted Warren Beatty?

n/t

[AlbertCat]

9. Really! Just look what it has done for the C Streeters and The Family!

[winyanstaz]

11. Renowned Asshat, Pat Buchanan........

once again spews bull crappy.

[mwb970]

12. Frankly, I'm tired of hearing about Christianity.

Nothing against it, I just wish they would pray in private like the Bible says and leave the rest of us alone.

We went straight from this year's asinine "War On Christmas" directly to this "Tiger should be saved" crap. Turning on the TV news is getting to be like opening your front door and finding a herd of Jehovah's Witnesses ready to pounce.

[ScottLand]

13. Christianity means you get to do whatever you want

and repent on your deathbed.

[Enthusiast]

14. Pat Buchanan has zero credibility. nt

[rasputin1952]

15. I cannot recall a time when Buchanan has been correct on anything...

he does no research, has no qualifications on anything other than Pat Buchanan's points of view...for the life of me, I have NO idea why anyone takes this buffoon seriously.

[90-percent]

17. I think

I think Hume and Buchanan should convert to Buddhism.

-90% jimmy