Olbermann: Cheney "Is, By His Own Terms...Morally, If Not Legally, A TRAITOR To U.S."

[Hissyspit]

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MSNBC Countdown w/ KEITH OLBERMANN - 4 January 2009: Keith debuts a new "Quick Comment" format.

OLBERMANN: "'We are at war,' Dick Cheney came down last week from Mount Megalomania to announce, 'and when President Obama pretends we aren't, it makes us less safe.'

If Mr. Cheney believes we are at war, then he, as the most recent former occupant of the Vice Presidency, is under the strictest of obligations to put aside his case of terminal partisanship, and rally to the support of his President at a time of war. Instead, his remarks not only give encouragement to the enemies of this country, they give them an exact measure as to how successful they have been in damaging our freedoms.

In a previous time, Mr. Cheney's pathetic exploitation of human fears, his undermining of our courage and resolve and clear-headed calm thinking, would have resulted in his being chased off the national stage by a public sick to death of the personal industry he has made of undermining American freedom and of undermining the authority of this elected government.

And in a previous and more resolute time among journalists in this country, nobody would be pretending that this obvious fact was not true: It would have been in every newspaper and on every broadcast, after his disgraceful performance since Christmas, when terrorists attempt attacks in this country, Dick Cheney IS the beneficiary.

And if he cannot summon exactly the same kind of absolute apolitical patriotism he demanded of everyone else while he was in office, he is, by his own terms, nothing more or less, morally, if not legally, a traitor to the United States of America."

[stlsaxman]

1. WHAM!!!

[Oldtimeralso]

2. Keith, If you Keep Talking Like That....

you better avoid small airplanes.

[DutchLiberal]

3. Loved his smackdown of the media.

[Bitwit1234]

4. That would be so nice if everybody would pick it up.

And tell it like it is.

[proud patriot]

5. Lovin it

:thumbsup:

[hmorehead]

6. I wish the rest of the comment had been uploaded.

[pjt7]

7. Evidence mounts in US complicity

in Yemen "terrorism"

http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9951&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

[avaistheone1]

9. +10

[bahrbearian]

10. Wow , great link

[defendandprotect]

20. Thank you -- +++

According to ABC news, the Al Qaeda leaders running the insurgency in Yemen were released from Guantanamo, although two of the highest ranking known terrorist there, without trial.

Guantanamo prisoner #333, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi, and prisoner #372, Said Ali Shari, were sent to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 9, 2007, according to the Defense Department log of detainees who were released from American custody.

Both of the former Guantanamo detainees are described as military commanders and appear on a January, 2009 video along with the man described as the top leader of al Qaeda in Yemen, Abu Basir Naser al-Wahishi, formerly Osama bin Laden's personal secretary.

With all the hoopla about trials in New York, not a word is said when top level terrorists are released to Saudi friends of the Bush family who let them go. We are now fighting these two Bush friends in Yemen. They are running a major insurgency there. We have been using Cruise missiles and our jets to attack their bases in the last weeks.


Evidently, following the tradition of using our prisons for patsies . . . ?

James Earl Ray -- Charles Manson -

[ooglymoogly]

30. In what way was Charles Manson a patsy? nt

[defendandprotect]

38. Well . . . .

I think the best info I could give you would be a connection to Mae Brussel's

radio program where she addresses it -- I'll look for the link --

However, take seriously what Cheney has been telling you --- the right wing/power elite

often do create our "reality" -- and I would include the "Manson Murders" in that --

for one, the man who actually did all of the murders and wrote messages which were intended

to connect "Hippies" to the murders was not Manson. Manson was not there.

I think the man who did it was Charles Watson, but at any rate, it was a military style operation.

And, the obvious purpose seemed to be to create a violent vision of the Youth Revoluiton of

the 1960's -- which was wholly anti-authority, anti-war, and set off a revolution in thinking

about our culture -- our medical care/childbirth, on and on.



OK . . . HERE IT IS ...

http://www.maebrussell.com/Audio/Merrill%20College%20Lecture.html

First tape -- 10/13/71 -- Side 1

And listen from the beginning -- she gets right to it --


Side 2 also continues re Manson --

[Bluenorthwest]

45. Nobody ever said Manson was there

So why state that? No one ever said Manson wrote those slogans on the wall. No one. So why say that? You are just so far away from the realities of the time, the place. Manson was convicted of conspiracy. Do you and this woman claim that all the Family that went to prison did so to uphold a false accusation against Manson?
And of course, Charles 'Tex' Watson was also convicted of the murders, and is still in prison for them. He was Manson's second. And he is in prison for doing the murders. You post implies that he went free, while Manson was a patsy. Watson was convicted of 8 murders and is in prison right now as I type.

[defendandprotect]

55. What could possibly be your objection to pointing out that Manson wasn't there?

Or in pointing out that it was Watson who wrote the messages in blood in an

effort to connect "hippies" with the murders?

Why would you prefer that the public not know that information---???????

If you ask anyone today who did the Sharon Tate murders, they will generally say "Manson" . . .

Many assume that he was there.

What I tried to make clear was that the emphasis was on someone who was not there -- and

that emphasis remains so today. While the person who actually did the murders is very much

less know.

The reason I happened to even make mention of James Earl Ray and Manson as "patsies" really

had more to do with the "Xmas bomber" and the fakery surrounding that.

IMO, Americans really too readily accept nonsense as truth.

If you're truly interested in the "Manson Murders" . . . why not listen to what Mae Brussel

has to say about it -- the main issue is the setting up of the "Hippie culture" --

and that certainly was one of the direct intentions of these murders.

[ooglymoogly]

56. Sophistry to mislead...and not even remotely believable sophistry.

Your calling Charles Manson a patsy puts your credibility on the line. Your comment might have sailed without that impossibly naive wierdness to your post.

[DWilliamsamh]

42. Charles Manson? Please tell me you aren't sympathetic to Manson. (n/t)

[ooglymoogly]

29. Must read....should be OP.

[truth2power]

53. Thanks, pjt. I've been clicking around on this site

for the past hour. Amazing stuff there. Click on the "terrorism" icon.

[ClayZ]

8. Yeah! K and R

[badgerpup]

11. ...aaaannnd *BOOM* goes the dynamite!

Keith nailed it...and he is absolutely right historically. :applause:

:kick: and rec

[winyanstaz]

12. He is a traitor alright....

I truly believe he had a big hand in what went down on 9-11.
We need to offer a reward and amnisty to those who step forward and tell us the truth about 9-11.

[raynjulsks]

48. and there it is....

the first ridiculous link from Cheney to 9/11 truth... what did it take, a dozen posts? Nice....

[ljm2002]

13. Go get him, Keith!

Bravo!

[Rhiannon12866]

14. And also by the terms of George H.W. Bush... K&R.

:-(

[libodem]

15. I regret that I have but one recommend

to give to this video. Yeah, baby, that was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MilesColtrane]

16. BAZINGA!

[pleah]

17. K&R

[peacetalksforall]

18. Olberman is the patriot. I thank him.

[defendandprotect]

19. Beautiful to hear that last night . . . !!!!

And I think that Cheney and the recent terrorist farces more than prove that

the alleged hijackers couldn't have done 9/11 -- but Cheney/Bush/Blackwater/CIA could have!

In fact, I think '93 WTC was either a practice run, or shows us that unless they had the

White House for cover, it was all they could do at the time.

TREASON -- over and over again by right wing political criminals --

[The Wizard]

21. If only the wing nuts had brains

Never expect Tea Baggers to understand conceptual thought.
Dick Cheney is a traitor. He exposed an undercover CIA agent, and he did it for profit.
Somewhere in Dante's Ninth Circle is a Ninth Ring that's reserved for Cheney and the Bush cartel.

[pjt7]

22. Everybody needs to know that Bush/Cheney released

2 Guantanamo prisoner's, along with Bin Laden's bodyguard, that are terrorizing out of Yemen as we speak.

This FACT needs to be known.

[Reform]

39. History Bite

The tea parties were reincarnated if you will by 911 truth years ago, republicans moved in and you now have the teabag parties.
infiltration is the ultimate tool.

[wizstars]

44. Hell is too good for some Evil Bastards..... n/t

[Blue Owl]

23. He has been for some time now

The bastard...

[hughee99]

24. I remember in the good old days, when dissent was patriotic...

My how times have changed.

[yankee2]

25. Not only Cheney! MOST politicians are closet crooks... for Capitalism

It has been MHO for quite some time now that Dick Cheney is in fact a traitor to America and all Americans. But I must go further. I think that MOST American politicians are traitors to their country. Let me explain why I say that.

In America, our leaders are elected by the people, right? WRONG! That is only true if the system gives us real choices. First of all, virtually every single candidate for political office must be vetted by a political party, and every (both!) major political party is packed with "leaders" who have also been through the system, which supports ONLY those seekers of office who have demonstrated at least one essential quality: they must be Capitalists first and foremost. How does it do that? It simply refuses to endorse any candidate which doesn't pass muster, and those who don't pass muster do not receive sufficient (read: corporate) funds to campaign effectively. By making campaigning a multi-million dollar operation, Capitalism ensures that ONLY those candidates it supports out of its very rich bank accounts stands a chance of success. The only ones who can pass this hurdle otherwise are the independently rich, who can pay their own campaign bills, however, they are already dedicated fans of the system that made them rich. And if any successful candidate ever goes AGAINST Capitalism, in any significant way, he/she knows with absolute clarity that the funds will dry up instantly, along with his political career. The upshot is that only those candidates who support and defend Capitalism, with their political lives if necessary, ever get to hold or keep any significant office.

Does that sound democratic? We get to vote for our leaders, surely enough, but our choices are severely limited to only one political stripe: Capitalists. And if we decide we'd like a Socialist, or even a Libertarian or Green Party candidate? We are totally out of luck in the first case, and practically so in the others. We DO NOT have any REAL choice! Our only choices are always between two candidates which the system has ensured share IDENTICAL VIEWS on one subject at least. Capitalism has utterly failed the common American citizen. His/her taxes have gone to and continue to be used mostly to support Capitalist interests. Even right now, while Capitalists regularly complain about and oppose Social Welfare, they have accepted and continue to accept larger sums (than are spent on Social Welfare) in Corporate Welfare! You see, their objections are not to welfare per se, they are only to who gets it. And the vast majority of Americans are NOT on that list!

Have we all not noticed recently that even our most liberal "leaders," including many Democrats and even the President himself, after being elected on liberal and leftist platforms, virtually always change their positions (overtly or covertly), under the influence of other Capitalist loyalists and lobbyists, and wind up supporting Capitalist private interests ahead of those of the American People? Such has been the case with our Congress, which refused to vote for any health care package which recognized and supported the needs of ordinary Americans, and which did not promote Capitalist interests first and foremost. Any "gifts" to the American people were strictly prohibited (but not so gifts to the Owning Class)! During the long period during which this "reform" was being debated, both the Congress AND the President spoke to thousands of lobbyists and executives for the health care industry. Does anyone know of a single representative of Working and Middle Class interests who met with Mr. Obama, or any Congressman for that matter? I do not! I think that who a political leader talks to is who she REALLY supports, and the ONLY people these "leaders" ever talk to are dedicated Capitalists. Does THAT sound like democracy?

On the contrary, THAT undermines democracy, absolutely!

The ONLY cure I know of must be strong, effective campaign reform. ONLY by completely eliminating corporate campaign contributions will Americans ever own and run America again. Campaigns should be limited to, perhaps, the print and radio media, in order to reduce costs, and to eliminate as much as possible marketing, propaganda and personality as factors in elections. Perhaps debates, which must include all candidates from every party, could be televised. All campaign funds should be provided, equally to each candidate, who must provide a certain number of petition signatures to get on a ballot, by the government. And last but not least, no political office holder would be permitted to accept any gifts, say over $20 or $50 in value, from ANY corporate entity, or from anyone else for that matter. Perhaps then, America would once again be run for and by Americans, NOT, as usual today, by and for corporate and private special interests. Perhaps then, Americans would begin to get a fair share in benefits of what we pay in taxes.

Does it make you nervous to talk in terms of Working, Middle and Owning Classes? About Democracy, Socialism and Capitalism? That should be no surprise. The Capitalist Class wants us to fear talking or even thinking about what it is doing to us, about how it has taken so much more of our nation's wealth than it deserves (wealth is created by LABOR, NOT Capital), leaving too little for the rest of us, and how it has CREATED these classes, how it actually HURTS most Americans, and especially, about possible alternatives to its unquestioned power.

I say "THINK ABOUT IT!" Think about it a LOT.

[Amonester]

35. Leaflets, flyers material. K&R.

Print out copies and leave them behind everywhere: coffee-shops, laundromats, libraries, telephone booths, and on, and on.

And, a warm welcome to DU, yankee2! :hi:

[onlyadream]

37. So true

but how can it possibly be changed when the ones making the laws are the problem? I think most people want campaign reform, and candidates talk about it, but it will only ever be just talk.

[freddie mertz]

26. K & R.

I like the new short-form comments.

[earth mom]

27. Haven't we all said this for years already?

I'm glad Olbermann is still trying to get the word out there, but honesty, * & Cheney have obviously already gotten away with it all and they will never be punished.

Look how Obama is doing nothing about them and in fact has embraced their policies and their wars. :argh:

[Joey Liberal]

28. Benedict Arnold Cheney

Nuff Ced.

[RedCloud]

31. That's it! Off with his head.

[ooglymoogly]

32. Smack, chop, trash. nt

[ooglymoogly]

33. Oh, and KR nt

[riverbendviewgal]

34. Keith O is awesome

When I went to view the video on Utube which is great I found this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7m7vRcg3ns&feature=related

Done in Jan 09, 8 minutes of Bush's 8 years.
awesome

[Amonester]

36. Why does Dick Cheney hate 'murka?!?

Why does he refuse to support the President in a time of war?!11??1

Does he not know critisizing the President in a time of war is unPATRIOTIC?"!*&&11111111

[davidwparker]

40. kick for later

[winyanstaz]

41. You tell em Keith :)

[Faygo Kid]

43. Powerful, and well said.

I am personally grateful to Keith Olbermann every day for his willingness to speak truth to power.

[NICO9000]

46. Cheney loves America!

<sarcasm, natch>

Look at how good it's been to him. He plundered the Treasury, profited mightily from his illegal occupations, and decided to choose himself as (vice?) president when he headed up Dumbya's VP selection committee in 2000. Never mind that the rest of us have had to eat shit under his dictatorship - all that counts to a sociopath like the dick is that his nest is all well-feathered as possible.

I realize the "liberal media" is and has been a fiction since at least the 80s, but do they really have to trot out Beelzebub every few weeks to torture us with his insane comments (yes, that's a rhetorical question)? Isn't there some way he could be returned to the man-size safe he spent most of the bulk of his mis-administration in?

[mstinamotorcity]

47. One for the money ,two for the show

Will Dick Cheney just go,go,go.Every time i See Shooter on the tube i have this sudden urge to gag.:puke: When he opens his mouth there is always something coming out of it to criticize our President.Our President makes us look weak,he is dithering,he should have followed the procedures we put in place.Must we keep reminding Shooter that this is not his Presidency and hell when he was in office he wasn't the President then.Presidents and vice Presidents are elected into office.We did not elect you the first or second time around.To steal or not to steal.Its no surprise that the underwear bomber was trained by detainees that were released during the Dubya/Shooter administration.Knowing all of the things we know now would you be surprised at anything that has happened when those trolls were in office.Must we go back.We lost The Twin Towers,A whole gulf coast ,(Hurricane Katrina),Soldiers were electrocuted just having a shower,(Halliburton),Two wars,(Afghanistan and Iraq),military vehicles that were not properly armored,No new job creation,massive job losses,home foreclosures at all time high,Pensions and retirement funds wiped out,small business and big business,gone,gas at record high,tent cities springing up like prisons,twenty four percent of Americas wealth vanished after an eighty six billion dollar surplus.When it comes to Shooter we know exactly what he is. Keith just had the platform to say it for us. Thank you Keith you rock:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

[The_Commonist]

49. Mr. Cheney...

You really need to shut the fuck up already!

[rhett o rick]

50. Time for a little k&r nt

[roberto]

51. GREAT

[wakemewhenitsover]

52. Uppercut to the jaw!

wtg, Keith!

:headbang:

[Overseas]

54. Traitor as Torturer in Chief, Traitor again as Ex-Unindicted-Torturer in Chief. //nt