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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 01:17 AM
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CNN Looks Into How YouTube Is Being Used As A Recruitment Tool By Terrorists
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PHILLIPS: What would we do without it? The funny, the zany, the outrageous videos on YouTube, but there is a darker, sinister side that you probably don't know about: radical Islamic groups apparently using YouTube to recruit young terrorists. CNN's Nic Robertson has this alarming story.

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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It is as simple and scary as this: YouTube videos as a connection between young men and gun-toting radicals.

BEN VENZKE, CEO, INTELCENTER: YouTube is sort of -- could be that first hit for some people simply because of the mere scale and size of it. But it's going to be just that initial hit, and then they're going to move on into deeper levels.

ROBERTSON: Pakistani police say it's exactly what happened in the case of five Americans arrested there. Police say the men, aged from 18 to 25, were on their way to terror training camps.

But why would an average youngster even look at a radical video?

PAUL CRUICKSHANK, NEW YORK UNIVERSITY CENTER ON LAW & SECURITY: A friend might encourage the kid to look at a YouTube video. He visits the site. He sees the video is well produced; it's compelling. He sees there are lots of comments on the site, all of them in English, and soon he starts commenting, as well.

ROBERTSON: After that, it's a very slippery slope, say terror experts. Extremists are watching online chats, looking for potential new recruits.

VENZKE: It sort of provides a filtering opportunity for them. They are able to sort of push out their message, see who responds to it.

ROBERTSON: It's getting the conversation and the videos together that's making the difference. According to CIA veteran Marc Sageman, no one ever got radicalized watching videos alone.

MARC SAGEMAN, FORMER CIA OPERATIVE: YouTube, the various videos that are posted, are very important in terms of seeing them. But then it's really discussing their significance with your friends that, in a sense, drives the point home as opposed to just watching them.

ROBERTSON (on camera): What's making YouTube such a powerful tool for the Internet radicalizers is the built-in social networking media. Look at this: Revolution Muslim, an American group, 296 subscribers. Look at those subscribers here.

We'll choose one of them, Lone Wolf. Go into his account. He's posting his own videos supporting al Qaeda here. Go down. We see his comments. Here he's supporting the Ft. Hood shooter.

And we go down even further, and this is what worries the terror experts the most: the conversations he's having with the other jihadists out there. This networking that's going on.

STEVEN SIMON, FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL OFFICIAL: Something, you know, very appealing for a kid to do, who's looking at his menu of options when he's -- when he's seeking to rebel, when he's looking for that path, out of his, you know, self-conceived terrible situation and, boom, you know, there it is.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): And online peer pressure works like anywhere else. Only here, peers can be anyone, anyplace in the world. New friends, a big appeal for alienated, isolated youngsters.

VENZKE: Suddenly they're not alone. They're going to do something that 20 other people, 100 other people have, yes, this is good, this is important. And it can be that pivotal point that pushes them over the line.

ROBERTSON (on camera): We contacted YouTube, and a spokesman told us they have 20 hours of video uploaded every minute, every day and more chats going on than they can monitor. They say the site bans incitement of specific serious acts of violence, but they can't stop the postings before they happen. They rely on users to police the site and flag offending material.

(voice-over) At homeland security, they don't have any simple answers either.

JANET NAPOLITANO, HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: I think that's fair to say: that the social media is having an impact. It is an illustration of how this is a changing environment.

ROBERTSON (on camera): Can I ask you, how you stop this sort of social chatter that becomes radicalized, that is used for radicalization? How do you sort of single that out?

NAPOLITANO: I don't have a magic bullet for that, and I don't know that anybody does. This is the dark side of the Internet and social media. And I don't know, sitting here today, that anyone has a silver bullet for it.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): And for anyone with teenagers on the Internet, that has to trigger concern.
Nic Robertson, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE)


I sent this email to YouTube a few months ago, didn't receive a reply and the channels/videos are still up.

date 19 October 2009 01:33

subject The Taliban and other jihadists are all over youtube! This video tells people it's ok to kill women and children

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Hi there. I have been having a look around YouTube and the site seems to have been infested with Taliban, al qaeda and their supporters.

This one for example has some religious nut saying it's ok to murder women and children: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCnXCb3yyak There are lots of other videos in his channel and the related ones are worth checking out. I have been following one vid to another and it has made my head spin there are so many! There's even an al qaeda channel with that "Wind of Paradise" video on it: http://www.youtube.com/user/AlqaedaBase

Here's another channel with that video on it: http://www.youtube.com/user/KwafelShuhada

The Taliban have their own YouTube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/Istiqlalmedia#p/a/u/1/ogBFeYLIp4Y and it might be worth checking out the subscriptions, subscribers and friends on the other channels they have subscribed to: http://www.youtube.com/user/MUSAFARPAKTIAWAL & http://www.youtube.com/user/Freedom1sOur
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:19 AM
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1. Interesting - thanks. nt
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 02:31 AM
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2. I see the same with groups like StormFront and National Vanguard...
...as well as other white supremacist groups. Many are bound by three things: race (African-American, primarily), sexual orientation (overwhelmingly gay men), and anti-Semitism (ranks number 1 by most accounts). There are also a number of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories from 9-11 to Natalie Hollaway. It isn't surprising youtube is being "used" to recruit or look for recruits for a variety of hate agendas.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 03:35 AM
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3. YouTube should censor videos done by terrorists and turn over they information to the authorities
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Fedja Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 06:10 AM
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5. And who's a terrorist?
Man with scarf? Brown man? Man with gun?

I always thought terrorism was a crime, which was provable and punishable in court. Also, if you favor censorship of supposed fighters in the middle east, do you also favor censorship of anything published by the US army?
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 05:41 AM
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4. Sounds like they are going to start censorship
And who will be next?...perhaps DU?
And soon perhaps there will be nothing on but propaganda for us to see.
Nos shit people we are becoming a world of 1984, and it is through fear that they themselves create and sustain.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 06:31 AM
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6. "They" would be YouTube and they already censor certain things
They don't allow any kind of pornography, for example.

DU also has some censorship which is clearly defined in the rules. The most common form of censorship here is immediate banning of wingnut trolls and deletion of their posts.

You've got 2 choices, stick to the rules or go somewhere else.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 09:06 AM
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9. And those things are illegal and should be baned.
Free speech does not allow for shouting fire in a crowded theater.
this is about creating a new rule for free speech that says anything that can be said to be helping the terrorist must be banned....and they, the corporatist will say what that is.
DU is different it is a social networking site and has the right to associate or not with anyone they want.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:06 AM
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11. Pornography is not illegal but YouTube have made a decision not to allow it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3111280">Treason, sedition and subversion is illegal and there's no need to create a new special law. I'm sure that in this instance the corporatists (Google) have to abide by existing http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_115.html">Treason, Sedition and Subversion laws of the US.

BTW YouTube could be classed as a social networking site, not that it makes any difference either way.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 07:17 AM
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7. Thank you, CNN, for that lecture on the evils of free speech
Edited on Wed Jan-06-10 07:18 AM by Bucky
The core message here is, ordinary people can't be trusted with broadcast access. Leave talking to the public to the experts.

Go to wikipedia and look up "Moral Panic". That's what this is, people spazzing out over the latest fad.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 09:05 AM
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8. 'they' don't want to censor any particular site.
But, just censor all of the internet 'they' don't want to look at.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 09:55 AM
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10. Fox News has been recruiting terrorists for years, right out in the open
:shrug:
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