60 Minutes: Palin Exposed 'hitting bottom' 'debacle of historic & epic proportions'

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I guess 60 Minutes this week will be must-see-TV... John McCain's former top campaign strategist reveal behind-the-scenes issues from the McCain/Palin presidential campaign.

[Richard D]

1. It's all those facty thing . . .

. . . you betcha. :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[tomm2thumbs]

3. I is kwalified...

[bkohatlanta]

33. Her Only Qualification as Governor, she wanted to raid Public Libraries and Burn Harry Potter Books.

She is a Christian Fundamentalist and thought it was her duty. Funny, I remember some guys in Germany who had the same idea.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

44. and charge rape victims for hospital rape-kits

and generally put women in christofascist funded chastity belts (*ha*)

Same guys in Germany touted Christian nationalism and instituted kinder, kirsche, kuchen schools for Aryan girls. Also encouraged the girls to "offer" themselves to good Nazi soldiers.

[ClusterFreak]

2. Oh snap.

:popcorn:


p.s. Is it Sunday yet?

[Greenpeach]

4. Can't wait. N/T

[hlthe2b]

5. You East Coasters can give the rest of us a bit of a reminder...

on Sunday....;)

I agree "must see tv" (and this from a cableless someone who watches maybe one or two shows/month)

[Divine Discontent]

6. Palin was woefully inadequate to be VP. She didn't have an intellectual prowess to handle

complicated discussion. Anyone with an average IQ, heck, even those with just common sense, knew she wasn't too swift!

Her ignorant banter in answering questions was laughable.

[pnwmom]

9. I'm afraid that's not true -- she's probably about average in intelligence

and to many others at her level, she seems fine.

[mwb970]

11. I see her as glib rather than intelligent.

She's never at a loss for words, but her words don't make any sense.

[pnwmom]

14. A lot of people's spoken sentences would look pretty bad if they were written down.

People lose their train of thought, go off on tangents, back up and repeat themselves, etc. I've read linguists saying that her speeches are much more understandable in person than they are when written down word for word.

And she did graduate from college, which is something only about a fourth of the population manages to do. So she's not an idiot.

[bowens43]

16. you're wrong of course.

The woman is definitely an idiot.

[JDPriestly]

17. Whether she is or is not an idiot is not the question.

The question is could she carry out the duties of the president?

If she was not focused enough on the details of facts and policy to prepare for a debate, she would not be focused enough to carry out the duties of a president of the United States.

One of the strengths of President Obama and previously of President Clinton is and was their ability to master the facts and policy details to make intelligent decisions.

If you watch Michael Moore's movie, Capitalism, A Love Story, you will see a scene in which Don Regan stands next to President Reagan and coaches him on what to say. We saw Lieberman doing that with George W. Bush at one point also.

Like Reagan and GWB, Palin is being coached on how to fool people into thinking that she could handle the presidency. She couldn't. She has even less ability, less experience, less mastery of policy and facts than either Reagan or GWB. And neither of them really had the capacity to handle the office.

Palin is not an idiot, but she is not experienced or intelligent or well informed enough to be president or vice president. And it will take a lot more than seven years to get her to that point.

[pnwmom]

29. She's clearly not qualified -- I couldn't agree more.

But I think that the average American's intelligence level is similar to hers - and so they don't see her as being as ill qualified as most of us do.

[Divine Discontent]

40. ok, we'll disagree. but I don't think she's as intelligent as the average adult of her age, I think

she masks her idiocy better, more than that she's average intelligence. There's some very slick 'you betcha' types out there that get by on smiles. A few models I know come to mind... lol

[Turborama]

20. She graduated in college, eventually, after going to 5 different colleges in 6 years

That took a lot more colleges and time compared to the vast majority of students who graduate.

University of Hawaii at Hilo - 1982
Hawaii Pacific University - 1982
North Idaho College - 1983
University of Idaho - 1984, 1985
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1985
University of Idaho - 1986, 1987



Did you come across this classic piece during the election?

http://www.slate.com/id/2201158/">Diagramming Sarah

[tomm2thumbs]

38. thoroughly enjoyed that link to diagramming her sentences

eek, flashbacks to quizzes too

[niyad]

55. thank you for posting that. confirms just about everything we know about her.

[bjobotts]

21. Nonsense.She is too and idiot. Non-sensical except when ghost written.

[bjobotts]

22. Her speeches too were written by speech writers.When not she's nonsensical.

[bjobotts]

23. She has a beauty pageant mentality who wanted to be a sports caster.In way over her head

[bjobotts]

24. She attracts the soap opera fans and those with a political agenda to use her

[mwb970]

43. Palin precisely matches the dictionary definition of "inarticulate".

inarticulate

1. lacking the ability to express oneself, esp. in clear and effective speech: an inarticulate public speaker.

I have never once heard "clear and effective speech" from Palin. I have to assume that she "lacks the ability to express herself" in this manner. Ergo, she is inarticulate.

Language is thought. When Sarah speaks, you are hearing her "thought" processes, expressed out loud. Think about that for a moment!

[Wally Pipp]

39. With all due respect, pnwmom. . .

I don't want my president to be described as merely "not an idiot."

I want my president to be described only in superlatives.

I want him or her to be able to watch television, solve The New York Times Sunday Crossword puzzle (in ink), and animatedly participate in three different conversations all at the same time.

I want him or her to be able to call Stephen Hawking and discuss how to make A Short History of Time better and more error-free.

Whenever my president walks into a room, I want to be able to describe him or her as the smartest and cleverest person in that room. Always.

Merely wanting the job and thinking you can do it isn't enough.

Best regards, Wally

[niyad]

54. thank you for that list of qualifications. pretty much sums up my view as well. would love to see

you post this as a separate thread.

[mwb970]

42. Oh, come on. /nt

[izquierdista]

46. College isn't what it used to be

Nowadays, a majority of young people attend some college, and graduating is a more a matter of having enough money to keep paying for courses. This is especially true of people who attend multiple colleges and extend their B.A. to six or seven or eight years. So just from her education, you can categorize her as just average in intelligence. Then there is her acceptance of whacky, fundamentalist clap-trap. That drops her down to sub-average, probably on a par with George W. In his case, family money did a LOT to cover over what is an uninquisitive, dull mind.

[niyad]

50. georgie boy "graduated" as well--and he is STILL an idiot. besides, as I learned recently,

in a very strange conversation with a news director from one of the local stations, journalism majors (which she was) don't think that they need english for their careers.

[wordpix]

52. I know a local repuke pol who's got the silver tongue of glib talk BUT

he can't write worth a damn - his writing shows he's a damn illiterate. But speaking is a strong point, no doubt about it, and he convinces people to vote for him every time. :puke:

[notadmblnd]

34. And use "also, too" repeatedly?

I don't think so, that is unique to Ms. Palin. I know 4 year olds that can articulate their thoughts better than Ms. Palin. Your broad stroke statement in regards to her being average must be unique to your demographic area.:shrug: I also know lots of idiots that went to college.

[wordpix]

51. i dunno, let's give her an IQ test. I'm guessing she comes in low

[EmeraldCityGrl]

7. She was so in over her head.

Sometimes I wonder if they wanted to lose the election. Let the
Dems absorb all the backlash from the Bush years then after an election
cycle come back and blame it all on Obama. I just can't fathom the
reason behind her being chosen.

[bjobotts]

26. Should be obvious by now she only cares about the money and revenge

[bjobotts]

27. Quit government as soon as she saw she could make more money

[Farzan]

28. She is a quintessential Republican is that...

she could easily be a televangelist and QVC sales woman.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

30. You hit that nail on the head.

I can just see her up there preaching to the faithful...same crown, pretty much same speech.

[liberation]

32. I always thought that the GOP was not interested in winning in 08

Let McCain run for president and take the fall (he is too damned stupid to know better), plus they were also throwing him a bone to make up for how he was put under the bus to make way for Bush in the 2000 primaries. I think Palin was a safety to make sure that grandpa lost.

Given how Obama has been so quick to own Bush's fuckups, and how the GOP is still getting their legislation passed... I am beginning to think the assholes are far smarter that I once gave them credit. Because they sure seem to be playing the Dems like a fiddle. The midterms will tell the story, if Obama loses the 2 houses he will be rendered useless and in typical GOP fashion they will get to blame their own fuckups on the black guy.

[Warpy]

8. While that might worry wonks and strategists

Palin's being unfocused and disengaged doesn't worry her supporters, at all. These are people who listen to the never ending verbal torrent of word salad and think she's intelligent and articulate. They recognize catch phrases and buzzwords here and there and think she's saying exactly what they think. Her supporters are neither intelligent nor sophisticated and Palin is just who they're looking for, someone they fantasize is just like them, only a little better, and who will represent their point of view.

Low information, emotional voters scare the hell out of me and so does Palin. I saw a B-actor and a fake cowboy ne'er do well get into office when intelligent people thought they had no chance. Useful idiots with charisma are very, very dangerous.

While I think party bosses would rather turn the whole dirty tricks apparatus on her than have her be the GOP candidate, she just might be a major threat as a third party nominee, pulling the dimwit vote from both parties.

[greenman3610]

10. would that be good?

" pulling the dimwit vote from both parties."

I think that would give us a slight edge.

[Warpy]

12. There are a lot of them out there naturally

and our dumbed down schools and media produce even more of them than that.

So yeah, I view her rise with a great deal of fear.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

45. Bingo!

Nail, hammer!

Exactly!

Perfectly stated.





:thumbsup:

[ginnyinWI]

13. Anyone with any sense could see that she has none.

It remains the most damning thing about McCain--that his judgement could be so bad as to allow her to be picked for his ticket. I mean, c'mon. This is the presidency of the United States. Clearly McCain was not qualified for the job.

[southernyankeebelle]

15. Don't worry she will blame everyoneelse. Teabaggers only have stars

in their eyes for her. They will not believe anything this man or anyone who doesn't like her. But friends believe me shit will hit the fan. She can't put a lid on it all. If you have a chance go to The Immoral Minority.com. Allot of stuff from people who live in AK and don't have stars in their eyes. Gees, allot of information.

[Brundle_Fly]

18. I reckon she's our Nader.

the Republicans wont run her, Because she'll lose. She'll have to run on some tea party express 22% Free Republic insanity ticket.

[bjobotts]

25. What a dumb thing to say.Nader is a hero who never kept anyone from being elected.Proven many times

[pnwmom]

31. Yeah. A hero who won 95,000 votes in Florida after insisting on campaigning

the hardest in the most important swing states. If only 1% of Nader voters had voted for Gore instead, Gore would have carried Florida.
None of the election fraud, ballot irregularities or anything else came close to helping Bush as much as Nader did.

Nader didn't give a damn about the country. He just wanted to prove that he could single-handedly turn an election -- and he did.

[pundaint]

35. I was glad to have a non corporatist to vote for in 2000.

I will be glad if I have a non corporatist to vote for in 2012. I think it is important not to capitulate on the critical stuff like government for the People, I wish there was a whole Party who thought like me. But if enough of us don't demand it, non of us will ever get it. Nader has proven his whole life that he gives a damn. I don't vote to try to be on the winning side, I vote to express my political will. In 2000, I wasn't about to fall behind an active participant in an administration that gave healthcare a half-assed try, furthered banking deregulation, supported corporate welfare while not supporting human welfare, sucked up to China, and gave us NAFTA, but that was just me. If you keep voting for it, that's what you'll keep getting.

[pnwmom]

37. You were one of those who helped elect Bush. But keep patting yourself

on the back for your ideological purity.

[wordpix]

53. +1 and I'll take Pres. Gore over Nader any day

[Divine Discontent]

41. strong point - if Nader gave a damned about the USA he wouldn't have done what he did.

[applegrove]

19. I hope this is on this Sunday.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

36. Big surprise

We- that is the people of the world- will be in big trouble if by some miracle (or suspicious voting anomaly) she ever becomes president.

[Blue Owl]

47. Bring it

Show her for the sunken teabag she is...

[KansDem]

48. "Palin seemed overwhelmed..."

Yeah! And you want to know why? Because you are "overwhelmed" Now get the f*ck out of the way and let someone with smarts and savvy lead this country! I'm so tired of seeing you "overwhelmed" face daily and reading your "overwhelmed" remarks daily. There has to be better people in this country who are ready to stand up and take charge!

And that goes for the rest of you overwhelmed "national leaders" who the f*cking media (ala FOX) continues to put out in the spotlight every day!

WE DESERVE BETTER!!!

[libodem]

49. Go figure

[Juche]

56. Meh. The GOP just wants to stop her in 2012

I think the GOP knows you can't win an election just with their base, and their base is the only group that likes Palin. Everyone else who pays more than 5 minutes of attention knows she is an idiot.

It is must see TV, but it is just to pave the way for someone else in 2012. No idea who. Romney, Pawlenty, not sure.

As far as the 08 election being set to be lost, the voters picked McCain (not the party) in the primary. So it wasn't a conspiracy. As for Palin I think she was recommended by neocons like Norquist and Kristol, people who are well known for not living in reality. So I don't think it was a conspiracy to lose that she was picked.

In fact, for a few weeks after she was picked 538.com had McCain winning the election with about 55% probability. Luckily when Palin opened her mouth and showed what an idiot she was the election went back to Obama. But at the end of the day, that is how dumb our country is. After 8 years of Bush people were rearing to elect McCain because he picked Palin as his VP. Thank god she was so blatantly incompetent that some of the voters changed their minds.