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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:04 PM
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Celente in 2010 the collapse will hit the ground
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 08:05 PM by TwixVoy
 
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Celente has a good track record. He thinks the worst of the collapse will happen this year. Definitely something to keep in the back of your mind.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:27 PM
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1. Seems to follow the thoughts of Kunstler and others.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:42 PM
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45. at around the 10 minute mark.... so long as there is NET NEUTRALITY....
AND THERE IS THE KEY THIS----> open net-waves.....!!!!

remember...... SOLAR POWER WILL BE USED AS SOON AS ARCO DEVELOPS THE 4,000,000 ACRE UMBRELLA WITH OPTIONAL FLAPS
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:36 PM
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2. I've heard of him but never listened to him....now
I think I like this guy...sounds as though he has his head on straight...wb
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:41 PM
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3. Wow
He didn't say a thing that I could find fault with.
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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:46 PM
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5. Check out his Youtube channel
He posts videos every other day or so usually.
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:29 PM
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7. I've been to his site before
and been impressed. It's just that my life is so that I forgot how smart he was and have failed to follow him.
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Timmy5835 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:59 PM
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37. Check out his Wikipedia page
He spends alot of time on FOX News and Glenn Beck.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:45 PM
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4. Thanks for posting this! I hope he is right about the 2012 elections and
the news media via the internet expanding...that was exciting to hear. The consequences economically of 2008, scary as hell that things could get worse.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:14 PM
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12. Note that beg caveat--
IF we keep net neutrality. I fear that the big guys will see that their only grip on the public is by grabbing the Internet.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:46 PM
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14. Oh I know, and we can be sure the MSM news outlets will ignore
the significance of this issue too :(
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:00 PM
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6. I agree with everything he said k&r n/t
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:37 PM
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8. War talk coming mostly from those who don't fight wars.... And that is the
problem....
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:57 PM
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9. a touch of marlon brando? -nt
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:01 PM
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10. Good stuff....happy to K & R, Twix.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:43 PM
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11. Well worth listening to. K&R
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:33 PM
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13. Rec. nt
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:39 AM
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16. Gerald Celente..one of the few media people who "get it"...
I liked when he commented on predator drones killing innocoent people.... "they don't hate us for our freedom.. they hate us for our foreign policy"
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ro1942 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 06:33 AM
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17. thanks for posting
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:05 AM
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18. Glenn Beck's good buddy.
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 09:24 AM by swag
I think this is a fair read on this douchebag:

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:yt_OE6g4-jkJ:www.edrants.com/gerald-celente-futurist-fraud/+gerald+celente&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



If you spew enough shit, some of it might come true and people will forget the shit that didn't come true and will say you have a "good track record."

This guy's a consummate bullshit artist and fear-monger.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:44 AM
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20. That's a pretty bogus article. n/t
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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:33 AM
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22. What did he say that was wrong?
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:42 AM
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24. You do understand he is the go-to guy over at FOX to get the Tea Baggers into a frenzy, don't you?
So if you see nothing wrong with either FOX or the Tea Baggers, by all means... be my guest and take this charlatan at face value. LOL
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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:19 PM
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34. Again I ask you
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 02:20 PM by TwixVoy
What did he say that is wrong? Answer the question.

Put up or shut up.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:19 PM
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42. Given that all he says are "predictions" the whole concept of right or wrong does not apply in
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 04:20 PM by liberation
this case. Doesn't it.

Then I will use the some approach:" Celente will be caught having sex with farm animals, while he and Beck are tag teaming a goat." There, I just pulled something out of my ass and since it may or may not happen in the future, I am not technically neither right nor wrong. It is, however, something I would love to hear someday (as long as farm animals are not traumatized in the process) ergo it must be correct, since my personal point of view equals reality as a whole I guess.


The question here is that Celente is one of the main go-to guys from FOX to wipe the teabaggers into a mouth foam frenzy, because just like you they agree with everything he says. Now the question is: why do you agree with the tea baggers, riddle me that... maybe the whole "arm yourselves, stimulus is baaad, the shit won't hit the fan until the Dems are in charge... so forget about the 2008 meltdown" BS was not enough of a clue?


Although I must say, I got a hoot about having to "put up" while a charlatan "psychic" gets automatic validation. LOL And that is why fools fall every time for these charlatans, because they can't predict the future but they sure can say exactly what they clientele wants to hear.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:43 AM
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25. He's all over FoxNews
Coast 2 Coast which has a right wing bent also has him on all the time.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:10 PM
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40. If you spew enough shit, some of it might come true and people will forget the shit that didn't ...
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 04:26 PM by AlbertCat
Precisely.

"Trend Forecaster"???? What the hell is that? Nothing.

One cannot predict the future of complicated events.

Though he may say things that are seemingly inevitable.... this "news of the future" stuff we see ALL THE TIME is not anything to get excited about. (Remember all the "Hillary in 2008" stuff that started in 2004?!) It's usually frightening forecasts so ... be afraid!

Note what he says if it seems logical to you but don't lose any sleep over it. What did he say that was wrong?

I mean... did they arm themselves and run for the hills in the 1930's? Just how many did that in the 80's (which was nothing like a rock bottom depression)? If the US economy is doing bad, then it will no doubt cause a downturn in other big markets. But did the Euro nearly collapse and had to be propped up or die? There was some secret emergency measure taken by Chinese, Indian, European banks? That we don't know about?

It's hard to judge whether speculation is wrong (can it be wrong?) but...

We're gonna HAVE to rip up our lawns and grow our own food? Next year! C'mon! Arm yourself to protect your tomatoes!!!! :eyes: That's enough listening for me.

Nothing is working. Arm yourself! Obama's plan is a failure!

Sound familiar?
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:39 AM
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19. I agree with everything he said. n/t k/r
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:37 AM
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23. Seriously?
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 11:39 AM by liberation
Some people should do some basic due diligence on charlatans like this Celente idiot. Amazing how one only needs an accent to be taken seriously in this country, regardless of track record. LOL
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:44 AM
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26. If you break down his message, it's just more "Terra, terra, terra!"
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:29 PM
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43. Indeed, it is more like "tea bag! tea bag!"
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 04:30 PM by liberation
Now the problem is why does a batshit insane libertarian "psychic" get such validation in a site like DU? I find that frightening.

Funny how this jackass can only "predict" things that have already happened, or right when they are all just too obvious and evident. I mean, it must have taken a "genius" in late 2007 and early 2008 to figure out the banks were in trouble, none of us had a clue anything was wrong with the economy then... right? LOL

His whole survivalist spiel reads exactly like the wet dream libertarians have been having since the beginning. And it makes perfect sense for a bunch of anti social types, like the libertarians, to advocate for the destruction of society every chance they get. Too bad they don't realize they are just too chicken shit (and have been coasting on the mercy of others) to figure out that they should be weary of what they wish for.


If his whole MadMax future prediction comes to pass, I expect Celente to be the first one to shit his pants. He may have to get a real job, since there won't be a market for charlatans who pull nonsense out of their derrieres then...
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:48 PM
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46. It's because he says the two parties are the same.
So he draw adherents of both. I actually agree with him on that point.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:32 PM
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47. But that is just a marketing gimmick...
... just in the same sense that a stopped watch, which is correct exactly twice a day, is not necessarily the most energy efficient method to tell time.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 06:25 PM
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50. yeah, pretty much
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:47 AM
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21. The end is near!
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:49 AM
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27. He speaks the truth....
...but will anyone listen. I doubt it. I didn't vote for a president who would expand and further entangle us into war. It would seem that war is the only industry that we have to offer the world. Not our science and ingenuity. Not our desire to solve complex problems with "can do." What we're doing now is just stupid. Stupid.

- I was born in the midst of the Korean War. And have seen nothing but more and more war since then. Universal healthcare, while sorely needed, will be of little value if we're barely capable of delivering the services.

K&R
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PinkoDonkey Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:51 AM
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28. Another hack
who earns his money through fanning the flames of fear. The looney right fringe loves him.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:53 AM
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29. Wow - I never much cared for him before but this makes a lot of sense. n/t
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:13 PM
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30. This guy is a political chameleon
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 12:15 PM by Phoonzang
He may sound good here, but then he goes on Coast to Coast AM and calls Obama a fascist and talks about Obamageddon.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:33 PM
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31. He's full of shit.
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:23 PM
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32. Reich wingers are secretly hoping for a meltdown and a civil war
What amuses me is how this Fox News regular chastises greed, when greed is holy on Fox News.

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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:05 PM
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33. If we push the reset button on this nation then they win back all of the advancements we've earned.
From labor laws to Social Security to social and educational programs. All gone.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:54 PM
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36. He's more like over flowing with it.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:13 PM
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41. +1
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:33 PM
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35. "It may also mean arming yourself if things get very dangerous as we believe they're going to."
"It may also mean arming yourself if things get very dangerous as we believe they're going to."

Better believe it. The threads of civilization are tenuous.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 03:15 PM
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38. He's full of nonsense.
My bullshit detector went off the loudest when he said like a fact that the stimulus is all spent, when in fact, only a minority of it was spent last year.

Also, what "trends" are showing anything sliding? All the sense I'm getting is that the economy is leveling off and starting to heat up a little again.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:03 PM
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39. Why would there be food riots
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 04:57 PM by Juche
Much of the stuff he talks about I find believable. But why food riots or trouble feeding people? The manufacturing and agricultural infrastructure to grow and distribute food will still be there. People will still be able to feed themselves on $1/day.

I think other stuff he talks about is likely though. Job riots. Rebellion over free trade. The middle class becoming more revolutionary.

Is his track record as good as people say? Did he really predict all these things in the past? He is a teabagger, so I don't know how much credibility to give him.

Part of the psychological makeup of right wingers if they fear everything is always hanging by a thread and any stress or deviance will collapse the whole thing. That is why they react so badly to terrorism and military threats (they want to shoot first and ask questions later).

So I have no idea how valid his claims are or how much are just the interpretations of people whose natural way of looking at the world is one of fear of collapse.

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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:36 PM
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44. He is a teabagger, so I don't know how much credibility to give him.
Oh yes you do!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 06:07 PM
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48. For everybody that likes this kind of TV, here's some more:
Gerald Celente Speaks on Cap and Trade and Obamageddon

http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/gerald-celente-speaks-on-cap-and-trade-and-obamageddon/

And here's an old Psychology Today article where he was predicting stuff for the decade just past. It reads like something by the Great Criswell - tons of generalities some of which were bound to come true in some shape or form:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199702/welcome-the-millennium

This thread reminds me of when DUers were taking this guy seriously:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:42 PM
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54. LMAO! A Criswell reference!
I wasn't around to see him in his day, but I've actually found and picked up his book, Criswell Predicts, at the public library. Full of wildly inaccurate bullshit predictions. That guy was (in retrospect) first-class hilarious.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:04 PM
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59. Criswell was master of this sort of bullshit.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 06:12 PM
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49. Its an embarrassment that this has been the lead vid all day on DU.
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:08 PM
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51. a revolution is a
evolution

I'll take a third-patry with Grayson, Ron Paul & Pete Defazio..
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:22 PM
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52. Is including Ron Paul necessary, really?
Grayson and De Fazio are sane unabashed wonderful liberals... a lot of people seem to confuse liberal with libertarian.

Substitute Ron Paul for Dennis Kucinich and you got my vote. No need to pander to the insane ultra right wing sector...
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:42 PM
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55. Right & Left has to come together.
& Ron Paul is certainly anti-war & a fiscal conservative.

Sorry if you don't like some of his far right beliefs, but that's why he would be perfect with a "wonderfull liberal"

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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:43 PM
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56. Liberation
You should ask Kucinch, Grayson & Pete what they think of Dr.Paul.

Kucinch told me to my face, Dr.Paul was a very good man.
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:35 PM
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53. How to be a successful psychic and gain reknown for forecasting the future:
1) Make a whole bunch of predictions. Hundreds are good, and thousands even better.

2) When a couple of your "predictions" come true, shout from the highest rooftop that you were "right".

3) Never mention, under any circumstances, your incredibly incorrect predictions, even though they form the bulk of your prophesies.

4) To be extra successful, find gullible followers to do steps two and three for you.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:51 PM
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57. This man is right on.......
Same things I, along with many other's have been trying to say for a long time now.
Wake up...Wake up America..
Get our troops home because we are going to need them here...to protect the people and defend America.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:29 PM
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58. I'm sure other "great civilizations" didn't believe in their eventual demise, either.
It's obvious the gap between the rich and the rest of us is widening. More and more people are being hurt by unemployment, lack of health care, the rising cost of goods. We can only take so much.

I'm not taking this as gospel, but I'm not discounting it out of hand, either. It's worth thinking about, and being aware of the possibility.
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