James O'Keefe The Rise and Fall

[Joanne98]

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After being pumped up like a suicide bomber by far right, fox news, and the conservative blogosphere, James
O'Keefe couldn't let them down. He wanted to top ACORN so badly, he could taste it - When he got busted by
the FBI

[Beams1969]

1. While these guys are numbnutzes of the highest order

Their crimes were not violent and did not physically endanger anyone. They should be prosecuted and, if found guilty, sentenced. I really don't see how wasting taxpayers' money to keep these 4 people in jail for 10 years each is going to serve society's better good. I say give them a year each with the maximum fine and 9 years probation. I also wouldn't be surprised if they start singing like canaries.

No matter what happens, they are going to cry about how they are in some way being victimized and that the real focus should be on the misdeeds of the liberals.

[MarinCoUSA]

2. These assholes must hear the jaildoor close. Period!

3 years hardtime. Maybe less for singing on Breithtbart or whoever bigger asshole.

[peacetalksforall]

3. Don't start making exceptions to the law for false pretenses and whatever laws

that are involved with the evidence that hasn't been revealed to us. They are in their twenties, not teens. They didn't come up with this while high on alcohol or drugs, they plotted this - in their own words - to destroy. He announced on some trip to St. Louis that he was planning something good for New Orleans that we would all hear about. When it's murder or destruction, doesn't the entire court look at intent, motivation, the result they were going for?

This was no prank and it wasn't an accident.

This is a person who anyone could call a smart-axx, know-it-all, publicity seeking, bigoted, manipulative person who is flying high on this God-awful tribute submitted and voted on in the House of Representatives that is now in the Congressional Recored from like minded malicious minds.

Now we find out that his lawyer is a highly qualified Republican who if he were innocent and there wasn't a trail would take this person on?

I would think that you would be asking that the money behind all of this be followed.

This guy is not 15 years old. This guy is not 15 years old. And that's what your suggestion implies.

Let's see what the court room reveals with the charges. It's too early. He's innocent until proven guilty.

But there is one thing we know out of the gate. He broadcast his purposes and he's on a roll playing roles for which he has already made money and was probably going to make more money - if only from a job and speaking engagements to bigots and logic-flippers.

Let's see if this was just a phone camera or recorder and costume prank. Or not.

[Beams1969]

5. Hey believe me, I think if they are found guilty they should do time

And that they weren't simply young kids who got caught with their hands in the political cookie jar. I don't know what it takes to incarcerate someone for one year in the US but I would be surprised if it is over 50K. So, do we as a society want to spend over 2 million dollars to put these putzes behind bars for ten years? Hit them in the pocket book, put them away for a year (or two--or whatever the jury and judge find appropriate under the law), and make sure they can't profit off of this.

Again, I also think they will lead to people higher up the Republican food chain, or will be patsies of the highest order. Either way, their credibility (which they only had with the right anyway) is pretty much toast in my opinion, especially if they are found guilty, which seems likely. As time goes on, they media (I hope) will pay less and less attention to them and they will become a 30 clip on the year in review TV specials.

[MUAD_DIB]

11. In a word. Yes, the should serve time. Just making them fork over $$$,

that they can already afford once the RW money come rolling in to help them, will not work.

To your point about the higher Republican food chain... Put them in jail too if this turns out to be a conspiracy.



He who profits from a crime commits the crime.
-Roman Proverb

[CLANG]

13. I think we can save much more money by releasing

non-violent drug users, and incarcerate real criminals, like political hacks that try to infiltrate government offices for the purposes of recording private conversations without their knowledge.

[Iggo]

18. Absolutley. And worth every penny.

Hell, I'll pitch in right now.

[MUAD_DIB]

10. +1

[peacetalksforall]

4. "Michael J. Madigan is a litigation partner in

- in Orrick's Washington, D.C. office.

Mr. Madigan has more than 30 years of experience in
white collar criminal investigations,
congressional and
corporate investigations,
corporate governance issues and
Washington, D.C., legislative and political issues."

This is his lawyer. Who is paying for this lawyer? Are you curious? Would a 15 year old get this lawyer?

Whether or not it goes to trial, whether or not he is found guilty of anything, whether or not this lawyer, the judge, or the jury uphold or abuse more laws - let the system we have proceed.

You are not going to be very successful in shaping minds about this guy on this Forum. You might try another.

[Beams1969]

6. So are you telling me I should leave DU

for just trying to post my more moderate opinion on the subject? Very democratic.

I think these guys are probably going to be found guilty and should be dealt with according to the law. I despise their methods and their duplicity. In my opinion, which is all I was trying to express, is that I don't see what good paying to have these guys in jail for 10 years is going to do. Whoever his lawyer is, he has the right to the best and most vigorous defense he can obtain through legal means--that is our system, yes? If he obtains counsel through illegal means, he should be prosecuted.

[peacetalksforall]

8. No, I'm not saying you should leave DU, I read your post as an attempt to shape opinion.

You didn't make the case you made further down. I felt you should try somewhere else if you were trying to shape our opinion, which is attempted all the time. You will learn all about if you haven't been reading here before you started writing.

They are the move along - nothing to see hear teams.

[MUAD_DIB]

9. So you really don't understand the rule of law?

I say give them the maximum sentence allowed.

I mean WTF? Is this kindergarten?


They're adults for feks sake.

[gadjitfreek]

7. Office Space application...

And now the sentence for these heinous crimes committed against Mary Landrieu. I hereby sentence you, James O'Keefe...to a term of no less than ten years in federal-pound-me-in-the-ass-prison. You've lead a trite and
meaningless life. And you're a very bad person.

[ljm2002]

12. Throw the book at 'em!

If this really were his first time for doing something like this it might be easier to buy the "Aw, shucks, we wuz just playin'" defense. But that is not the case here. In fact, the first question is, whose payroll were they on? We already know that O'Keefe was on Breitbart's payroll, although Breitbart denies any knowledge of this operation. When you look at who these guys are, though, the tentacles run deep. This goes beyond a prank and there are others involved, I'd bank on it. Throw the book at 'em, then offer them something (not too much though) if they talk. They're young, 5 years is a lot less than 10. Let's see what unravels here, could get interesting.

[WileEcoyote]

14. Long jail time

Stan Dai is a CIA recruiter.

Throw the book at all of them. Send a message to future conspirators that they will do long, hard jail time.

That is if the prosecuting attorney isn't intimidated by CIA or other goons. can only go so far with these situations.

[CLANG]

15. +10

[hay rick]

16. It's Guiliani time, its...

slap on the wrist time. O'Keefe is under glorified house arrest- told to stay at his parent's house and not to leave the state of New Jersey without the court's permission.

I wonder if his folks let him smoke his pipe in the house.

Meanwhile, the MSM is obediently burying the story.

[zydeco]

17. This was an act of spying

on an elected official. A United States Senator.
I am sure that all of their computers, cell phones, phone records were confiscated. All of their bank accounts obtained and their activities and contacts over their lifetimes are being scrutinized.
I do, however, wonder why the FBI is in charge of this and not the Secret Service?
I also have questions as to why they were booked in a different county (parish?) than the one they were arrested in.
Many questions need to be answered and we should not let the MSM bury this.

[Roaddogg.jj]

19. This Loser

called his self a progressive