Krugman calls FOX News reporting 'deliberate misinformation'. Ailes shocked

[kpete]

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[jefferson_dem]

1. Thanks Paul!

Dude. You have the stones to say what needs to be said. Bravo.

[mazzarro]

5. I Join You In Saying

Thank you so much Paul! That needs to be said so loud and often too!

[BlueIdaho]

2. About time

That fat fuck Ailes should be called on his bullshit propaganda.

[SlingBlade]

3. Ailes is shocked , Shocked I tell ya ....

I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

After Old man Rupert Murdoch kicks the bucket.
I think Ailes faces the possibility that he may indeed REALLY be shocked according to what I've read regarding the Murdoch families opinion of him and FoxNews. :)

[brucefan]

7. Ten to one says

Ailes goes before Murdoch.

[Raster]

72. And let that blessed day come soon! Faux News = Roger Ailes

[The Wizard]

57. He needs to be shocked

in the electric chair. Treason is a serious offense.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

75. oh really?

no I'm NOT snarking!

I missed this one --- what do the heirs to the Murdcrock fortune (fortune? That's an understatement. More like a small country's GNP!) think of PoxSpews?????

[rosesaylavee]

4. Good for Krugman.

Ailes needs to be called out every time he rears his head. He has done this country a great disservice... treasonous disservice imo.

[hay rick]

53. An insult to traitors. nt

[tblue37]

65. The proper phrasing is "every time he rears his UGLY head"! nt

[Metta]

6. You can feel Ailes weakly floundering for some poor excuse of a lie. Happy karma, Roger.

Don't bother bringing the warmm clothes.

[rfranklin]

10. He totally distracts from what was said...

by bringing up a talking point crafted by one of the wingnut "think tanks."

[Metta]

11. When you can't refute the facts, obfuscate, lie, smear .... (You know the drill.)

:toast:

[Enthusiast]

16. Yeah, it's all we hear from the GOP

and their smear Meister's.

[Metta]

30. Yes. They seem to think that karma doesn't apply them. What a waste of human incarnation.

:hi:

[vanbean]

79. Right! He changed the subject completely. Obama had better

watch the rhetorical question, but it won't matter. They lie like dead rug bugs.

[mzmolly]

8. Go Paul!

:toast:

[jgraz]

9. Jesus, how drunk was Roger Ailes on that clip?

:wow:

[geckosfeet]

Really. What a grotesque character. That short clip explains an awful lot.

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So glad I don't pay a cable bill that goes to fattening that pig up.

[hisownpetard]

33. I don't think he was drunk - just drowning in his chins.

[BeyondGeography]

85. Looks like Boss Tweed just back from a European bender

Faux could have no more emblematic standard bearer.

[Grassy Knoll]

12. Put a big fat cuban cock in his mouth....

and these two fucktards could be brothers .

[CurtEastPoint]

17. THAT made me LOL!! Thank you!

fat Cuban cock... good one!

[SlingBlade]

38. WOW :) And they sometimes chide me for being

overly descriptive :)

That Grassy Knoll, Should go down as one of the Greatest Comments
in D.U History. Love it !

K & R

Mind if I use that in our local Freeper Forum ?

It's getting to be quite the bore anyhow after nearly a decade and I can't
think of a better way to say my goodbyes as I'm shot gunned ouuta there :)

[Grassy Knoll]

44. Don't mind at all sling, happy to oblige : )

[madmax]

76. HEY! I'm married to a cuban.......

awe, never mind :evilgrin:

[progressoid]

13. "It's Mitt Romney's healthcare plan"

That to me is just as important and Ailes' blubbering. Perhaps even more so.

[bread_and_roses]

49. exactly (n/t)

[ihavenobias]

14. K & R n/t

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

15. Did Jabba The Ailes eat Alan Colmes? I mean we haven't heard from the guy in a while.

Not like it makes a difference but...

[Lautremont]

63. Colmes was under the table in a sexy gold bikini, shackled to the Ailes.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

81. !!!!!!!!!

:puke: :puke: Great now I neet a new keyboard and I'll have to buy lunch again. :evilgrin:

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[DeSwiss]

19. K&R

FuxNooz hides their worthless so-called news service behind this:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jane Akre and her husband Steve Wilson are former employees of Fox-owned-and-operated station WTVT in Tampa, Florida. In 1997, they were fired from the station after refusing to knowingly include false information in their report concerning the Monsanto Company's production of RBGH, a drug designed to make cows produce more milk. They successfully sued under Florida's whistle-blower law and were awarded a US $425,000 settlement by jury decision. However, Fox appealed to an appellate court and won, after the court declared that the FCC policy against falsification that Fox violated was just a policy and not a "law, rule, or regulation", and so the whistle-blower law did not apply.

The court agreed with WTVT's (Fox) argument "that the FCC's policy against the intentional falsification of the news -- which the FCC has called its "news distortion policy" -- does not qualify as the required "law, rule, or regulation" under section 448.102.<...> Because the FCC's news distortion policy is not a "law, rule, or regulation" under section 448.102, Akre has failed to state a claim under the whistle-blower's statute."

MORE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Akre

- I think that the traitor Rupert Murdoch, should have his citizenship papers revoked immediately. Or at the least sent to Gitmo. I heard on FuxNooz that it's a nice place with great meals and everything......

[AlbertCat]

31. Rupert Murdoch, should have his citizenship papers revoked

He's Australian.

[Shining Jack]

50. He's also American.

"On September 4, 1985, Murdoch became a naturalized citizen in order to satisfy the legal requirement that only US citizens were permitted to own American television stations."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch#Moving_into_the_United_States

[AlbertCat]

51. naturalized citizen in order to satisfy the legal requirement

Well...of course. Anything at all for a buck!

[LongTomH]

83. Citizenship papers?

How about the papers declaring him a human being?

Yeah, I know that's kinda mean...........:evilgrin:

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

74. And one has to ask why some effort isn't made to make the FCC policy a

regulation?

Doesn't see like anything particularly hard to do. It's easier to regulate than to legislate, and this is definitely under the FCC purview - they could do it if they wanted to.

[sheldon]

20. I've always liked Krugman. nt

[NorthCarolina]

21. Vote for the Democrat and get Mittens' Health Plan

Of course Krugman is spot on in this statement, but doesn't make for much of a campaign slogan.

[Dimsdale]

22. Roger Ailes, D-bag.

Roger is the ultimate douchbag. His own children don't want anything to do with his Faux News act.

A recent front-page-above-the-fold piece in the NY Times, finally got around to sort of mentioning what a douchebag he is after praising him as some sort of
journalistic giant. You know Roger, getting that truth out to the masses. What's his play now to destroy Krugman's credibility?

[jimlup]

23. The thing is it isn't just FAUX

Other networks have failed to do any real analysis or call FAUX out on this.

The whole "Health Care" debate is a travesty in my opinion. We were swindled by the corporations and special interests. And the stupid tea party idiots are out protesting against their own needs. What a comedy our political debates are. I'd laugh if I could stop crying.

[Jefferson23]

24. I agree 100%, the MSM is a complete disgrace, Fox is just worse by comparison.

[Dimsdale]

25. Agreed.

Have you read any thing in the MSM about the Chilcot hearings in the UK? I looked and haven't found anything. Granted Blair got a pass and nothing
much was done to nail him, but can you imagine the monkey or Cheney in front of a Inquiry? Perhaps it's best we we're spared that. It would have been another whitewash.

[Jefferson23]

40. What they leave out is stunning and speaks to their continual complicity.

[JBoy]

28. Yup. CNN will report: "Dems say X, GOP says Y, wow what a fight!"

And never bother to tell viewers that Y is a complete fucking lie.

[Jefferson23]

39. Exactly, they focus on the conflict, not the issues, and almost never

challenge what is stated..drives me nuts.

[Dimsdale]

29. The MSM would do well to follow the Guardian's example.

At least they ran a commentary on what could have been done to nail Blair. If the Monkey or Cheney were questioned as Blair was, would the MSM have done the same? Ah, no.

[Jefferson23]

41. If we held our breath waiting for the MSM on that, we'd be gonners.

[The Wizard]

58. Pox provides cover for MSM (NT)

[Jefferson23]

61. Indeed!

[AlbertCat]

35. The thing is it isn't just FAUX

And it's not just out and out lies and omissions either. It subtle shadings and the way questions are set up. It's the make up of discussion panels and who is concentrated on when it comes to interviews and 'experts".

[SalviaBlue]

26. Ailes scrambling to change subject

[Don Draper]

27. Paul is da man!

[Turborama]

32. Call it what it is then! Deliberate misinformation is the definition of DISINFORMATION.

It seriously irks me that Medimatters constantly call what Faux spews out "misinformation".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misinformation">Misinformation is false or inaccurate information that is spread unintentionally. It is distinguished from disinformation by motive in that misinformation is simply erroneous, while http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation">disinformation, in contrast, is intended to mislead.

:kick: & R & thanks for sharing.

[Quixote1818]

34. Obama needs Krugman on his staff. What a waste of talent. nt

[Quixote1818]

36. What I want to know is who will take over after Ailes kicks the bucket because Ailes

looks like he is ailing :) and about to have a heart attack.

[Beavker]

82. He'll never die.

You'd think Limbaugh would be gone by now too. I've known younger, healthier, less hate filled people than these guys pass before their times, and yet these guys live on, and on. I guess one soul will get you a lot of extra time in the free market.

[asdjrocky]

37. I think people are missing the main point.

"It's a Mitt Romney health care plan." Yes indeed.

[onehandle]

42. First time I've ever heard Roger Ailes speak. Is anyone else thinking, 'an old Eric Cartman?'

Evil sack of shit.

[ellenfl]

43. it really pissed me off that he got away

with saying that the majority of the 'merkin people oppose health care reform. i scream at the tv every time they get away with that. i scream at the tv a lot.

ellen fl

[ooglymoogly]

45. I say givde that man a 10 year supply of portk fat.

To hasten THE END.

[earcandle]

46. Thanks for sticking to your guns, Krugman! That is real communication!

[gristy]

47. Krugman should have mentioned the studies that have shown how mis-informed

Fox News viewers are.

[Quixote1818]

48. Ailes looks like Jabba the Hut

[The Wizard]

59. Maybe the mighty Favog

[Presidentcokedupfratboy]

52. Ailes sounded like Capt. Renaud

in Casablanca. He was shoxked to find out Fox deliberately distorts stories.

[AzNick]

54. Hey Ailes, isn't gluttony a sin, you fat pig?

This man is disgusting to look at.

Pat Robertson is another fat moron.

Of course there is Rush Limbaugh.

And Beck is getting there too.

All that is saving O'Reilly is the fact that he is quite tall, otherwise he would be a fat stock O'Reilly.

Disgusting pigs all of them.

[Turborama]

60. !!!!!

[OrwellwasRight]

70. Nice. nt.

[Kall]

55. Yeah, Ailes got told, but

Of bigger concern to me is the fact that a Democratic House, Senate and President can`t even pass Mitt Romney`s bloody health care plan.

[progressoid]

62. Yep.

Welcome to DU Kall.

[TomCADem]

56. Way To Go Paul!

[StreetKnowledge]

64. Roger, shit man, you're shocked that Krugman called you biased?

You hired Glenn fucking Beck, for crying out loud. You run with GOP talking points lock stock and barrel, up to and including typos in the press releases, and you want to be seen as impartial?

How does this fool get any respect from anybody? Even Rupert Murdoch isn't this dumb.....

[KansDem]

78. Not to mention the numerous times FOX has had to apologize for its lies...

Two come to mind:

1) When FOX ran a clip of Joe Biden campaigning in 2008 and he quoted John McCain's "The fundamentals of the economy are sound." Biden said something like, "John McCain says 'the fundamentals of the economy are sound..." His intention was to point out the differences between Obama, who believed the economy was in trouble, and McCain who believed there was nothing wrong. Of course, we all knew the economy was in dire straits.

When FOX wanted to give the impression that the Obama administration wasn't up to solving the economic problems, it aired that clip but omitted the reference to McCain! This may Biden look clueless...

2) FOX used video of the 9/12 Teabaggers' march to pump up the attendance at both Michelle Bachmann's and Sarah Palin's rally. Both events were sparsely attended but the Teabagger video made them look like a huge number of people showed up.

I'm sure there are more but these two come to mind...

It seems FOX is having to acknowledge there incompetence (or outright lying) on a regular basis. I don't know any other news outlet that's had to do so.

[WCGreen]

66. This is why I will continue to subscribe to the NYT so that Krugman

and Rich and others don't get shuffled off and replaced with more opinions and less fact...

[valerief]

67. Ain't it amazing when stating the obvious is news? nt

[humblebum]

68. The dems blew their chance to challenge constant "deliberate misformation"

when they refused to address the issue of a new updated FAIRNESS DOCTRINE. And now they are dealing with the effects of it.

[DisgustedInMN]

69. K & R

[brewens]

71. I heard Joe Scabwhoreow say that when FOX started there was

finally news that a conservative could watch without screaming at his tv. The fact that they were screaming at their tv's watching legit news, should have told them something about the Republicans they were supporting. They did not need a propaganda network to tell them what they wanted to hear.

[wial]

73. Paul shoulda punched Roger in the chops

only he might have had some trouble pulling his hand back out from the rolls of fat.

Next best thing, what he said. I liked Ailes' non-denial. "The American people aren't stupid..." was essentially admitting his viewership aren't bright enough to qualify as citizens.

[olegramps]

77. Krugman is one small candle in a vast sea of obfuscation.

[SemperEadem]

80. beautiful! Paul Krugman for the win!

if what Krugman said didn't apply to fux, as they are always wailing and moaning about, then why did ailes rear back and take offense? The guilty make the most noise. ailes walked into a trap of his own hubris.

[johan helge]

84. Great, Paul!

Tell people what kind of liers these thugs are! Dems should call out all those lies. These people are liars. People should be told that the right is dominated by crooks.