TYT: Remember the cheerleader who was gonked out by the flu shot? Yeah, she was faking it

[ProfessorPlum]

Run time: 07:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOmNuIYFD7g   Posted on YouTube: March 04, 2010 By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks Views on YouTube: 2585   Posted on DU: March 04, 2010 By DU Member: ProfessorPlum Views on DU: 4000

 
I don't think the TYT crew are nearly hard enough on this bitch for putting people's lives in danger by throwing doubt on the safety of the flu shot. The people in this country are scientifically illiterate enough with this kind of nonsense, quackery, and bullshit.

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[nyc 4 Biden]

2. what a weird story!

i do think she needs mental help though.

[TNDemo]

3. I remember watching her when the story first broke

and thinking I have never seen a neurological disorder present like that. Fakie fake faker.

[SidDithers]

4. Thanks for posting...

thread from November in the Health Forum discussing her miraculous recovery here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=222&topic_id=75804

Sid

[Crowman1979]

5. And to think all of the anti-vaccination nuts were falling for this.

:rofl:

[crim son]

12. I'm not an anti-vaccination nut and I fell for it!

I believed she had developed this disease and that she associated its development with the vaccine - I wasn't sure whether it was possible or not.

Not. :eyes: I can be so gullible.

[ProfessorPlum]

14. Don't feel bad - I didn't think it was the flu vaccine, but

I thought something wrong had surely happened to her. Little did I suspect that someone would actually go on national TV and act like a goddamned mental case and lie about it like that.

[Confusious]

50. Welcome to America! n/t

[teknomanzer]

60. Could not have said it better myself...

What is it with this quest for fame and fast cash? Why don't any of these asses think about the serious consequences of their incredibly stupid and selfish actions. Somebody (elderly) likely died because they saw this, freaked and opted out of the flu shot. What a fucking bitch. I dearly hope that she has mental problems, otherwise she is yet another example of American Psychopathy.

[JoeyT]

49. Yeah, you shouldn't feel too bad.

I thought it might have been some sort of allergic reaction to a growth medium or even something present on a contaminated needle or even a condition that was related to something else in her life that she just attributed to the vaccine.
I did wonder about her "symptoms" not matching her diagnosis, but mistaken diagnoses are made sometimes.

It's a rare day that I learn I haven't been enough of a cynical bastard.

[Confusious]

51. And to you too also!

Welcome to America!

[winyanstaz]

36. You need to keep up with the breaking news in Europe...

The head of the Council of Europe’s investigation into the 2009 outbreak regarding swine flu labeled it “one of the greatest medical scandals of the century.”

[WhoIsNumberNone]

56. Just like the birthers fall for the fake birth certificates every time.

They believe what they want to believe

[MichaelHarris]

59. I agree!

I saw this first reported and knew right away she was faking.

[bluestateguy]

6. Sounds like a certifiable nutjob

nt

[My Good Babushka]

7. I remember that story!

And I remember thinking that it sounded pretty implausible to me.

[LiberalFighter]

8. Couldn't find her on the Washington Redskins website.

I wonder who the original doctor that suggested she had Dystonia? The doctor on TYT says no way she has/had it. Most likely all psycho.


Did she really see doctors at John Hopkins and other places?

[Cirque du So-What]

9. I hope charges of fraud are forthcoming

if she received so much as a penny in donations from any source. I also hope that the FDA - along with any other appropriate agencies - investigate that quack pratitioner.

[asdjrocky]

10. Bad actor.

[winyanstaz]

11. I hope she goes to jail..

Things like this make it harder on those that did have a bad reaction and even on all those moms that misscarried right after getting the shots.
Shame on her for doing such a stupid thing.

[democracy1st]

13. faux news busted again!

[Warpy]

15. Doctors busted her the first day

Unfortunately, the anti vaxers won't listen to experts in the medical field and I'll bet they still believe this little shit was horribly harmed by the evil flu vaccine.

[Capitalocracy]

16. A little research on the part of the media when the story broke...

would have revealed long ago that this was a fake. The Dystonia Medical Research Foundation had a statement up on their website as soon as the story broke said their doctors had analyzed the video and found no connection with dystonia, that her symptoms didn't even match dystonia, whether or not she was faking. Five minutes on the google yielded this information when I was doing a YT video on it.

I love how they totally catch her lying. "Oh, I shouldn't be driving!" The end of the video clinches it... whatever psychological problems she has, she's totally faking it and she knows it.

[jgraz]

17. Calling the woman a "bitch" is over the top.

The story speaks for itself. No need for a sexist slur.

[Hissyspit]

20. No one calls her a 'bitch' anywhere in the video that I can find.

Go watch it again. Cenk calls her a "crazy-assed dystonia chick."

[Orrex]

24. It was in the OP

Without addressing the propriety of the word itself, it can hardly be denied that she's acted in the manner of a total asshole.

[Hissyspit]

39. Oops. Duh.

Sorry about that.

[ProfessorPlum]

21. all right then, she's a bastard.

[Orrex]

26. No need for a sexist slur, perhaps, but the story does *not* adequately speak for itself

She latched onto a huge wave of ignorant, pseudoscientific, anti-vax idiocy, and she was more than happy to bask in the limelight when she was the poster child for poor victims of Evil Big Pharma. Her idiocy exacerbated people's quite reasonable fears in anticipation of an H1N1 outbreak, and it was dangerously irresponsible of her to stage her publicity stunt, just as it was culpably stupid of the media to put her in the spotlight solely for reasons of fear-driven ratings.

We can legitimately debate whether a sexist slur is appropriate in this context, but her idiocy should receive as much attention as her fear-mongering charade received.

[jgraz]

28. No one is denying that this is a horrifically bad human being.

If you want to insult her, have at it, Hoss. Just try not to insult all women when you do it.

[Orrex]

29. Wasn't me.

Nowhere have I used any sexist term in describing her, unless "asshole" is sexist.


And let me say again that "letting the story speak for itself" will not adequately address the scope of her idiocy nor the harm inflicted by it. The subject deserves a full airing, because anti-vax stupidity is rampant in this country, and media darlings who stir up those fears deserve whatever rhetorical backlash they incur.

[jgraz]

30. I was using "you" in the general sense.

Not "you" personally. We really need another word for that.

[Orrex]

31. Oh. Whoops.

Then just who are you calling "Hoss," Hoss?!?

:hi:

[FiveGoodMen]

34. I respectfully disagree with your point on language

The pronoun for a man is he, for a woman it's she.

The typical insult for a man is bastard, for a woman it's bitch.

The fact that our language unnecessarily makes those distinctions along gender lines does not mean that calling a woman a bitch is an insult to all women. It's just the English-language standard pejorative for someone bad who happens to be a woman.

If I said she was an asshole, I wouldn't be dissing all women just because I said 'she'.

[jgraz]

35. And the typical insult for a black man is... ? And for a gay man?

"Bitch" is a sexist slur. "She" is not.

[FiveGoodMen]

37. Noted

[ProfessorPlum]

38. Now, wait a minute

I was willing to put up with your mild rebuke about using the word bitch, and even with your ridiculous claim that I was insulting "all women". But to equate the word bitch with words like n*****, fag, etc., is just wrong.

To a homophobe or a racist, what makes someone an (insert racial or homophobic slur here) is what that person IS. Not what that person DOES.

A bitch is a horrible woman. A person isn't a bitch because she is a woman, she is a bitch because she's horrible. You see what I mean? Not all women are bitches. (just as not all men are bastards) Do you see the difference between that and an ethnic slur?

It's a remark on her behavior, not her gender, though "asshole" will do just fine here as well, if that ruffles your little feathers less. And, at the risk of being even more un-PC, it drives me out of my mind that this asshole thinks it is OK to go on TV and go "full retard" . . . if even one child was hurt because their parent saw this horrible, horrible asshole on TV and didn't get them a flu shot, she should be sued to the fullest extent of the law.

[jgraz]

41. You're contradicting yourself

A bitch is a horrible woman. A person isn't a bitch because she is a woman, she is a bitch because she's horrible. You see what I mean? Not all women are bitches. (just as not all men are bastards) Do you see the difference between that and an ethnic slur?

Actually, as you just admitted, you call her a "bitch" because she's horrible AND because she's a woman. That's what makes it sexist.

Now, obviously, society doesn't view this as negatively as they do "nigger" or "faggot", but it's in the same ballpark. In fact, just a few years ago, it was still considered OK to call someone a "fag" as an insult. Times change.

[Orrex]

42. How do you feel about women who use the term to describe other women?

Nothing to do with the OP, but it's got me wondering...

[jgraz]

43. The same way I feel about black people using the n-word to refer to each other.

They own the epithet. they can use it as they see fit.

My family refers to each other as "dagos" all the time. If you're the subject of the slur, you get immunity.

[Orrex]

45. Fair enough.

Still, I have to say that I'm not convinced that any single use of "the b-word" is necessarily a sexist attack on all women, just as calling one impoverished person a "bum" does not equate to calling all impoverished people "bums." To expand a slur from one person of a given type to all people of that type is to give the speaker more power than is likely deserved.


However, I also understand that the term has an undeniably derogatory "female" component, making it hard to deny the sexist baggage of it.

[KathieG]

47. I am a female...I made the mistake of using the "b word" the other day in GD...

while referring to a republican strategist that was on the ED show, and I was promptly lambasted for it...the thread was locked. I started a new thread apologizing for offending anyone. Being that I am female, my use of the word was in no way intended to insult her gender. I have a hard time with this one, because I personally don't find the word offensive...I hear it frequently on TV, at work, in music etc. and it is used for both females and males, very frequently in jest. I am more careful about what I say/write now, but it is confusing when people use "son of a bitch", and "bastard" and no one says boo about it. Then there are words like "crazy", "nuts", "wacko" that could be considered offensive to people with a genuine mental illness, or people will insult someones appearance and it seems to be accepted. Sometimes it's hard to know where to draw the line.

[Confusious]

53. Sometimes the lines are drawn in such a place

as to be ridiculous.

[Confusious]

52. So what does bastard equal

if bitch = woman = sexist slur

is

bastard = man = sexist slur?

Just want to make sure I get it right.

[Tutankhamun]

46. It's not an insult to all women. Perhaps I'm mistaken, though.

Maybe, for example, it's an insult to all men to call Rush Limbaugh a dick. Ooh! What a horrible, sexist statement! All men should be truly outraged by this language.

:sarcasm:

[Hissyspit]

40. Oops. Never mind, jgraz. Didn't read the OP comments.

[JDPriestly]

18. Another balloon boy. She is hoping for an Oscar. She is likely to

get rotten tomatoes -- real ones.

Either that, or she is a throwback to the hysterical women that Sigmund Freud treated.

[Historic NY]

19. they make a clock named after her..............cuckoo..

I bet if they get some more footage she will be reveal even further.

[AlbertCat]

22. Vaccines are DANGEROUS!

But unproven synthetic amino acid therapies from a new age doctor with questionable ideas will cure anything!!!!


And don't you forget it.

[Orrex]

23. Finally, a voice of reason!

:evilgrin:

[TZ]

25. I called bullshit on this a long time ago.

But what the hell do I know. I've only worked under a world class vaccinologist...:sarcasm:.
Oh and I did something I've never done before..I defriended someone on FB who was passing along this shit.

[Orrex]

27. And all this time I thought you were a travel agent.

But I guess that would make you a vacationologist.


Or maybe you're a ventriloquist?

[20score]

32. That's funny!

K&R

[BeatleBoot]

44. Elaine Benes (Seinfeld) must have had Dystonia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xi4O1yi6b0&feature=related

Sweet Fancy Moses!



:rofl:

[HuckleB]

48. K & R.

[mrs_p]

54. wow, simply

just wow. she has got to be mentally ill.

[SoDesuKa]

55. I Never Beleved It

The original video included footage of her interaction with her husband/boyfriend. He was clearly acting because he was over-emoting the way amateurs do. It was a dead giveaway because if he didn't believe the story, why would anybody else?

It's really not that easy to fake participation in a story. The guy was totally wooden, as if to say she made me do this. If you can find the original video, check out the way he acts. It's completely different from how he'd act if the story were genuine.

And by the way, she's not that good an actor either.

[Ramulux]

57. A lot of people called this when she first got interviewed

I remember seeing a story on CNN or something about whether or not the flu vaccine was safe and there was this doctor on the show who said she wasn't acting the way most people with dystonia acted and that she was probably experiencing some kind of psychogenic reaction. Dude called that shit.

[McCamy Taylor]

58. On the other hand, Guillan Barre really does happen.

Only people who need vaccines should get them. Then you have a better risk-benefit ratio.

[longship]

61. Kick for Dr. Stephen Novella on TYT

He's a neurologist at Yale and hosts the best science podcast in the universe.

Skeptics Guide to the Universe

Listen to it... it's awesome.