Bachmann: We're Not Going To Obey Health Care Law -- 'We Don't Have To'

[jefferson_dem]

Run time: 29:33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-9vzTDIgw   Posted on YouTube: March 14, 2010 By YouTube Member: UpTakeVideo Views on YouTube: 335   Posted on DU: March 15, 2010 By DU Member: jefferson_dem Views on DU: 2835

 
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) is going a step beyond simply pledging to fight efforts to pass the health care bill -- she's openly pronouncing that people should personally declare it unconstitutional and defy it, depending on how it ends up getting passed.

At a rally at the Minnesota State Capitol on Saturday, Bachmann declared illegitimate the potential route that House Democrats could take to pass the health care bill. She was specifically railing against a parliamentary tactic by which the House could skip voting on the Senate bill by declaring it passed as part of the reconciliation bill. Bachmann pronounced this to be taxation without representation. "They have just started a revolution -- and they did it," said Bachmann.

"But mark my words, the American people aren't gonna take this lying down," Bachmann later said. "We aren't gonna play their game, we're not gonna pay their taxes. They want us to pay for this? Because we don't have to. We don't have to. We don't have to follow a bill that isn't law. That's not the American way, and that's not what we're going to do."

Bachmann continued. "Because it's one-party rule now in Washington, D.C. Their Chicago tactics, their Chicago friends, twisting Democrats' arms, threatening their own team members with ethics charges and a submission. This handful of people thinks (sic) they can enforce their will on 300 million Americans? They're not gonna do that. This is dictatorial, what they are doing. We are not compelled to follow a non-law just because Obama and Pelosi tells us we have to.

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The key moment comes at the 20:00 mark:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/bachmann-were-not-going-to-obey-health-care-law----we-dont-have-to-video.php?ref=fpa

[eShirl]

1. Well, no, it's not law yet. But once it is, yes, you do have to follow it.

[Puzzler]

2. I can just see the scenario now...

... a loyal right-wing Michelle-loving diabetic wingnut going to get health insurance after the bill has passed:


Diabetic Wingnut: "I'd like some health insurance"

Insurance Company: "No problem, sign here"

Diabetic Wingnut: "What! I'm supposed to be denied because of my pre-existing condition. I will be denied! I will be denied! I have the patriotic constitutional right to be denied! I know my rights!

[HopeHoops]

3. She's batshit crazy enough to announce she won't be obeying the law of gravity.

I always thought of Minnesota as a fairly well adjusted state until this dingbat came along.

[peace13]

4. Spoken like a woman who sucks off the teat of socialized medicine.

Give it up Ms. Bachmann. We can see that what you have is too good for the rest of us.

[Cleita]

5. Well, I suggest everyone send her their denied by their

health insurance bills and ask her to pay them.

[ChicagoSuz219]

6. I assume that means she's giving hers back. n/t

[non sociopath skin]

7. Why does Michele Bachmann hate America?

The Skin

[AlbertCat]

20. Why does Michele Bachmann hate America?

Really. A sitting (squatting?) US Rep encouraging her constituents to break the law and to not pay their taxes. ( I wonder how she expects her salary and expenses to be paid?)

Amazing!

Does SHE pay all her taxes? I mean....jess askin'...

[Zambero]

8. As sure as the Bachman fundie universe is 6,000 years old...

...good folks everywhere will be heeding her advice and DEMANDING that their previously existing pre-existing condition insurance denials be reinstated. In the name of liberty. In this instance, it's give me liberty AND give me death.

[dixiegrrrrl]

9. "WE"? are not gonna do that?

So after she incites a bunch of morans to resist a law, is SHE gonna pay their consequences?
And is SHE gonna actually be inconvenienced in any way?

[tanyev]

19. Yeah, is she going to opt out of HER taxpayer funded health insurance?

[GreenTea]

10. Republicans loved it when they had "one party rule" & the Supreme Court ........

The extremely partisan republicans ruled with an iron fist for six years from 2001 to 2007!

The republicans never complained once, as they passed 100% of huge Bush's spending bills possible, as well as pushing trillion dollar tax cuts for the rich right on through via reconciliation.

Republicans used reconciliation for Bush's trillion dollar tax cuts for the wealthy & their corporations, never once saying no to Bush's incredible spending & deficit raising.

The lying duplicity of the slimy corporate republicans is disgusting!

[bluestateguy]

11. So she is urging insurance companies to deny converage to sick people?

That is the functional equivalent of what she is calling for.

[Botany]

12. She is 100% batshit crazy.

I could only deal w/ just a little of her. BTW when is she going to give up
her government run health care and federal farm payments?

The Senate never passed any bill. :rofl:

BTW nice prop glasses too.

[CLANG]

13. She is more than bat-shit crazy! She defines her own category of crazy!

[mwb970]

14. Conservatives already think that laws don't apply to them.

I am amazed at how often republicans from Nixon to bush and beyond behave as if no law at any level has any power to constrain their actions in any way. Is there even a name for this condition, aside from "being two years old"? What kind of country has a sizable minority of scofflaws that refuse to obey any law they don't like, or any law whatsoever?

[AlbertCat]

21. What kind of country has a sizable minority of scofflaws that refuse to obey any law they don't like

Somalia?
Rwanda?
Sudan?

[dixiegrrrrl]

26. USA.

Banksters don't seem to be in trouble for fraud.
Rove and Meirs still have not been indicted for contempt of Congress.
The entire Bush administration is still wandering around free, as is the gang at DOJ in that Administration.
Blackwater seems untouchable despite many proven murders.
KBR and etc. have never been really brought to bear after millions in proven fraud.
etc
etc
etc

[Moostache]

15. Can someone explain to me why that is NOT sedition?

From Wiki:

Sedition is a term of law which refers to overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.

I would gladly sign on to a lawsuit if there are any lawyers out there in DU-land that would be willing to file the case in federal court for me! We can call it Moostache v Batshit....it will go down in Supreme Court history as the second worst 5-4 decision ever (right behind Citizen's United)!!!

[AlbertCat]

22. Can someone explain to me why that is NOT sedition?

Because she is not in command of her faculties?


(How can the FBI and local law enforcement "like" these kind of conservatives? The workload they put upon them!)

[penndragon69]

16. Bachmann

is part of the ever increasing "DingBat"
migration from northern Alaska. This is what happens to people who live
in the dark for too long.

[pundaint]

17. I am just sooooo glad they have her. Just enjoy it - it's only available for a limited time.

[rasputin1952]

18. "The Bachmann Exclusion" when paying taxes...

the IRS should love that as an excuse...:eyes:

From what she was saying, people don't have to pay any taxes...nice idea, but there goes her paycheck...:rofl:

[AlbertCat]

23. From what she was saying, people don't have to pay any taxes

Ah yes! The GOP fantasy world: "Taxless Earth" Makes "Middle Earth" look like the Science Channel. The brave but put upon Frodo Bachmann must throw the all powerful "Tax Bill" in the fires of Mt Rushmore. The teabagging Orcs actually rally to help her.

(teabagging orcs....ewwwww!)

Alas too late they discover there is no fire in Mt Rushmore.... so they just carve Ronnie Raygun's likeness on the side of it.

[RedCloud]

24. Old Repug ploy. Critique taxes, NEVER low paying jobs. Why not?

Time they got skewered for that one.

[suzanner]

25. what these poor people don't know,

aside from being enormous, is that she has been absent more than present from 'her job' because she's on the road and on as many media sources as she can possibly manage. These poor duped people.

[JBoy]

27. She needs to investigate herself for un-American thoughts.

[smoogatz]

28. Well , if Obama's not really president, then no bill he signs is really a law.

So Republicans don't have to obey them. Perfectly logical. If you're a fucking moron.

[Plucketeer]

29. What a LOON!

Whaddya get when you cross Michele with Sarah Palin? Fodder for looneybins. :crazy:

[Rozlee]

35. DON'T EVEN JOKE ABOUT THAT!!!

I'm going to have you to blame if I wake up screaming tonight because I dreamed of a Palin-Bachmann spawn that chased me after I laughed at it for trying to wink like one parent when it couldn't even blink like the other.

:scared:

[tomm2thumbs]

30. not very enthusiastic presentation - guess the end is near and she can sense it

phoning it in from notes - sounds like the word has gotten out that it is futile and she has moved on emotionally.

[RoyGBiv]

31. Yes, I see the resemblance ...

[wial]

32. oh for crying out loud

would someone please hold up a mirror to this lady so she can see she's Sarah Palin's even more evil even more demented twin?

Well, she still wouldn't get it, would she.

[Historic NY]

33. She sounds like the Soup Nazi......I thought a bill that was passed & signed became a law.

[Skip Intro]

34. So that's what a raving lunatic sounds like. nt

[midnight]

36. Entitlement programs include a never ending supply of our children to fight

the wealthy's bloody wars in foreign countries. How about that entitlement program for the bankers? How about entitlement program for the corporations.