9 mind-numbing minutes...Fox anchor defends Coulter to Canadian who says she got what she deserved

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Run time: 08:47 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuhz43FwEsA   Posted on YouTube: March 24, 2010 By YouTube Member: FoxNewsChannel Views on YouTube: 305   Posted on DU: March 25, 2010 By DU Member: Amerigo Vespucci Views on DU: 2258

 

[paulsby]

1. ah, the speech authoritarians

whether on the right or the left - they suck

and they are a dime a dozen

usually, they start with schenck (fire in a theatre!) references.

it's their mantra

[imurhuckleberry]

2. The poop on Ann Coulter

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/03/24/f-rfa-macdonald.html

[TheEuclideanOne]

3. Who is this lady being interviewed.

She is awesome! I would love to hear alot more from her.

[EJSTES2005]

16. I wonder ?

I wonder who's decision it is to splice the chanters into the edit at the 4:30 mark when the Canadian "enemy" is responding, and again at the 5:20 mark when she again tries to respond to a question...

And a nice ending where Barbi in her best cheetah's outfit ( no disrespect to strippers :) !!! ) tries to defend the psycho from Iran talking at Columbia....I'm Sure this "free speech argument" got tons of play on Faux News.

[FarLeftFist]

4. It's funny to see the difference between a real journalist .....

And a fake one.

[polly7]

7. Ha Ha ......... 'she made a joke'

'Take a camel', after saying all Muslims should be on no fly-lists .............. hahahahhaha. Good joke Anne. Do you have a bigot ghostwriter, or is it just your own sick soul coming up with these 'jokes'? I once helped a woman beaten black and blue, bones broken ........ she said her dear hubby later said it was just a joke, just playin' around. These people don't joke, they express hate and make excuses later for the harm they've done or incited others to do. Does this Fox woman really believe this stuff? The only joke here is Anne, expecting Canadians are 'suppressed' or whatever sick ideas she has about us not to have already heard all her venom. We have enough hate and prejudice to fight, we don't need to import it. Shame on those that did.

[rusty quoin]

21. And then the fox woman says, "put yourself in her shoes."

Is she talking empathy, something Coulter is completely devoid of. How can a normal person step inside Coulter's shoes? That's impossible.

[polly7]

23. I don't believe the blond woman knows a thing about Coulter's

past comments. If she had, she'd know how ludicrous that sounds.

[ScottLand]

24. Perhaps Megyn could put herself in the shoes of the

Canadians who heard Ann Coulter say the Canadians "are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent."

[Hulk]

5. This blond slut makes me want to vomit.

I can't stand to watch this bitch interview ANYONE. I took about 10 seconds of the video before I had had enough.

[TrollBuster9090]

6. This is just hype for the sake of ratings.

The fact is that Canada does have hate speech laws, but I think only a couple of people have ever been charged or convicted under the hate speech laws in all the years they've been in place. (In fact, I can only remember one case, off hand. It was (if memory serves me correctly) a high school teacher in Alberta who was teaching his students that the Holocaust didn't really take place. I think he was convicted under the hate speech laws, and paid a small fine. Does anybody else remember this case? Or any others? I'm too lazy to look it up right now.)

[polly7]

10. I remember it, James Keegstra ........... his trials and appeals lasted

for years. He was originally fined but that was overturned to community service, a suspended sentence and probation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Keegstra

[TrollBuster9090]

13. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, that's right. Thank you!

Also, I just looked it up, and there was one other guy, David Ahenakew, a native indian leader who was charged for making remarks about jews, fined $1000, and had the fine overturned on appeal.

Hardly the "liberal fascist, reverse-discrimination" bludgeon used to silence the poor, oppressed white majority that Fox is trying to make it out to be.

[polly7]

15. NP. I hadn't heard of that one, so thank you!

You're correct, and I just laugh when I hear people say we're oppressed. I also laughed when I changed my satellite provider and was offered Fox - for free! ........ I asked why on earth would you offer me Fox? They said, well ........ they're not included anymore in our basic package after hundreds of thousands of calls after that Red Eye thing, but if you ask for them, you get them, and we're supposed to offer it to every new customer. She was trying not to laugh when I said hell no. I guess the company's calls are mostly monitored.

[shockedcanadian]

11. Canada will not charge you...

They will simply sick the CSIS after you in a cladestine manner and block your ability to have a career or enjoy the regular freedoms in the Capitalist system. Of course, who you offend is a very important factor in your ability to obtain these freedoms, oh, and open debate is non-negotiable...once "charged" that's it, you are "blacklisted" for life. View some of my other posts to get alot more of the details, entrapment is not even the word to describe how I have had my character defamed and an absolute misrepresentation of who I am and what I stand for. Being a poor youth, I was an easy and convenient target for these treasonous characters. I can tell you, the punishment is far worse than being charged and paying a simple fine' you will not get the opportunity to defend yourself in a court, you will not get the luxury of viewing evidence against you; you will be tried and convicted in the silent court of Canadian Intelligence (and they get to justify their budgets and existence).

Now I do not follow this Coulter lady, nor do I find humour in the jokes she made, but I do believe in free speech, even if I am the target of the discussion. As long as it does not incite hatred or violence, I am all ears, though her obvious biases and prejudices do not allow me to take her seriously, I imagine her opinions are so entrenched that she may not be as open-minded to hear other arguments as how openly she pushes her own.

In closing, Take it from a victim. I have never illicited violence, I have never been part of a hate group. CSIS, the opportunists that they are, essentially manufactured myself as a threat and after 16 years I have still been fighting to clear my name. For this reason, if given a choice, I would DEFINITELY choose to have a First Amendment and listen to all of the discussions, even from all extreme positions, as is done in the U.S, than to have someone decide my fate without defense. Oh, and like any intelligence agencies position, what you say today, and the mandate in which they use to manufacture the threat (if in fact they so feel) can change and what may be acceptable today may not be in the future and vice versa, it all depends on what the Speech Master's agenda is. For this reason as well, I would choose a similar First Amendment in Canada.

[polly7]

14. I've written and emailed MLA's, premiers, even the PM .......not very

nicely either. Nothing in their replies but basically thank you for your interest. Sorry you've had trouble. I guess it happens everywhere, unfortunately. I have a brother in the Crown Prosecutor's office, will have to ask him how these things work. You've got me curious.

[djfourmoney]

20. Point Taken but...

Do you have hate groups like the KKK, have you had 200 years of Slavery and another 150 of Jim Crow?

Reconstruction was botched and even with the equal and civil rights amendments, umm your much more likely to get shot, jailed or killed being a Black Male than anything else. Okay women get killed a shockingly high rate but then you have beast like Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin I'm not quite sure if I should defend all women...

In any event, your point is good but our laws have a double edge to them. Yes it allows all kinds of speech but when you have a poorly informed populace and people like David Duke still get run in the media.

Ann says things like "Magic Carpets" and "Camels" around mostly White audiences, I think you know why.

Just like Tom Tancrado can say things like "We need literacy test" and repeating Obama's entire name to drive a point home to the Tea Party masses that showed up to hear him speak. Nevermind he has a history of flammable barbs being thrown at Latinos in America, in other words - Racism is A-OK, its free speech.

On top of that the media; FOX, NBC/MSNBC, CNN, et-al let Conservatives say "oh the left has said many of the same things..." When that is not true and not even close to being equal. Conservatives always look at White Men as being the victim, nonsense.

So you're saying you rather have our version of Free Speech, think about what your saying man...

Just think of some of these Reich Wing wind bags getting fined or jail time for the things they say, heaven?

In closing I'll just say that speech with racial overtones acts like a Dog Whistle to a small number of Americans, not saying these groups aren't being monitored, they are, but still.

[shockedcanadian]

22. You make some points

I understand what you mean when you state the age of the country and the U.S rocky history of racial insensitivity, but at least you address these inflammatory issues, in Canada we stifle them, and we allow our intelligence organizations to get away with being the judge and jury to decide what punishment is fair. I will tell you this, you may have more overt racism in the U.S, but the same issues exist here, but they are far better concealed.


For instance, I would be willing to place a bet, that per capita, the United States has far more minority leaders in positions of political power, especially at the municipal level. Circumstances progress due to discussion and debate, usually the debate starts acidic as people hate change, over time it becomes more accepted and commonplace. In 2010 the U.S now has a Black president, I don't think this would have been possible without free speech. Freedom of speech allows for challenges to the accepted norms, it also allows for people with incorrect and ignorant views to be challenged and confronted with counter arguments. The openness of Canadian society simply does not allow for this. Remember, at one time you would be chastised and maybe even imprisoned for suggesting that Blacks or women should be allowed to vote, or that people should be allowed to drink from the same water fountain, freedom of speech provided the platform to affect the change of these beliefs and what is considered the "norm".

Remember, racism and bigotry is not a quality someone is born with, it is socially constructed. People in power know this, therefore the selfsih unpatriotic intelligence forces that we have in Canada, engage in a quiet oppressive campaign against anyone they see fit; all in the name of "hate speech". It's a load of bs, something that the KGB or Gestpo would engage in, but it is happening in Canada, in 2010. Scary. Just do some research, you will find alot of oppression happening in Canada, especially for a country as small as ours.

The biggest issue of all, is how easy it is to even claim something that may not be true. We are talking about covert intelligence, they can claim you said this or said that, and they can spend tax dollars targetting you. In the U.S the CIA and FBI would shrug their shoulders, it's a non issue, people can say whatever they want. No entrapment, no subjectivity, no lazy and selfish undercover operative looking for an easy target to earn a paycheque. These are not obvious surface level issues to the average Canadian, but to those unfairly destroyed, it is everything. I just happened to be one of the rare people who was able to understand how I was manufactured as a target and how the modis operandus works. It took ALOT of research, digging and searching to become aware of how the system works.

Just remember how far the U.S has come as a nation. Your freedoms and economic openness are the envy of the world, even as you go through difficult times. In all honesty, it stands alone as the sole defender of true and open freedom, the level of government interference is much lower than in any other Western society, this is an important fact. It is what the nation was founded on, and you don't realize how vital these freedoms are until you live somewhere else.

[Tx4obama]

8. UPDATE: Coulter will file grievance with rights panel

Right-wing U.S. firebrand Ann Coulter will file grievance with rights panel

London, Ont. — Inflammatory right-wing pundit Ann Coulter took aim at a University of Ottawa administrator Monday night, saying an e-mail from the school warning her to use “restraint, respect and consideration” when addressing Ontario students during a speaking tour this week made her a victim of a “hate crime.”

Speaking to students and academics at the University of Western Ontario Monday, Coulter said the e-mail sent to her Friday by Francois Houle, vice-president academic and provost of the University of Ottawa, targeted her as a member of an identifiable group and as such, she will be filing a complaint with the Human Rights Commission alleging hate speech.

Full article here: http://www.canada.com/news/Coulter+file+grievance+with+rights+panel/2713903/story.html
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Hopefully Canada will not let her in next time!
Wish they would keep her there though ;)

[fascisthunter]

9. Fox News, utilizing Airheaded Women to Promote their anti-feministic backward agenda

notice how the women they parade around are ditzy bobble heads.... everything they promote is fucking backwards and anti-social.

[polly7]

12. I wish the Canadian woman would have stated some of Coulter's

most vicious quotes, the Fox commentator made it look like Anne is completely blameless for the hatred for her words up here. I also wish she'd have spelled out the specifics of our law as it would partain to those previous quotes.

[livingonearth]

17. I think what happened shows a lot of free speech.

Coulter got to say something rude, and others got to say they don't want her around.

[valerief]

18. That Fox bimbo is as nasty as Coulter, but the Canadian woman is terrific! nt

[pezDispenser]

19. heh

she is the defender of free speech, yet she can't articulate the boundaries of such.