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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:45 AM Original message |
75 & 81 year old peaceful protesters hands & feet shackled....in Burma? Iraq? or the U.S.??? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. in many respects, it's about equal treatment |
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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. They could have just ticketed and fined them. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. that's your opinion |
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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. We are supposed to be a democracy where people are treated with respect, |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. again, that's your opinion |
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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:18 PM Original message |
Again, the U.S. has less that 5% of the world's population and almost 25% of the world's prisoners?? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
16. this is NOT a clear example |
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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I have been arrested for civil disobedience in anti-war demonstrations. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. i am not saying it is good policy |
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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. It is brutal when a protester's head is slammed into a wall. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. and i'm sure his account is 100% unbiased |
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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. No, his point was to protest the wars. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. i am not disagreeing with you |
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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Everybody else who has committed a minor offense should not be treated like this either. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. why do i care what "vivien stern" thinks? seriously! |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. IT's an old peace guy...you can assume he wouldn't lie, for God's sake. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Your argument would be much stronger without the "that's what they ALL say" attitude |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. I don't think you'd have had much sympathy for MLK |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. You should realize one thing about civil disobedience |
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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. The point is that this is how hundreds of thousands of poor and immigrant people are treated |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Well now, I agree with that |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. You CAN NOT be saying it's ok to treat elderly peace activists like this |
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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. It is unnecessary humiliation for all people who are being charged with minor offenses |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. that's your opinion |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I'm curious |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. the shackles PREVENT same |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. I do think you make valid points |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. i admittedly know NOTHING about european prisons |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. The only people who did those things would have been murderers or rapists |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:09 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. People with minor possession shouldn't be in jail at all in my opinion |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. if by minor possession, you are referring to drugs, i agree |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Kind of funny how so many here want peace and a whole host of other things to happen in the world |
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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. You missed the point - the Brauns spoke extensively about how hundreds of thousands of people |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. there IS a risk |
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MNmom (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. The U.S. has less than 5% of the world's population and almost a quarter of the world's prisoners. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Paulsby's goal is 50% |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. which is gr00vy |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. You must have a human rights bot working |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. He's a cop. At some point, that evidently does a major number on your head |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
6. I realize that it seems ridiculous to shackle people for minor offenses |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. The valid point in this video is resources wasted on the arrest of the protesters. |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
23. Examples, used to discourage any and all who dare voice an opinion not supplied by the PTB |
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bsorem (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Thanks for taking on the chin for the rest of us. |
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