POLICE BRUTALITY - Jackboot Cops Taser Teacher Repeatedly While She Begs For Mercy

[Joanne98]

Run time: 06:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e-8Jqz8qxg   Posted on YouTube: July 16, 2010 By YouTube Member: setokaiba22 Views on YouTube: 455   Posted on DU: July 17, 2010 By DU Member: Joanne98 Views on DU: 8569

 

Cops are so out-of-control now that they're tasing the people who call them. This is really bad news for Nancy Grace viewers. lol

[Althaia]

1. that is torture, imo.

I wonder if taser training for police officers includes being on the receiving end? After seeing this, I think it should. That might teach them a bit of restraint.

[Uben]

2. Any cop who uses a taser irresponsibly......

....should be tasered on the scrotum! At'll teach the bastards!

[Meldread]

61. It's not just male cops who use tasers.

There is a female police officer in the next town over where I live. Every time she makes the local paper it always has her tasering at least one person - she's even tasered teenagers.

Just out of curiosity, on what part of her body would you have her tasered so she can learn her lesson?

[pattmarty]

67. Same as the males. genitalia works fine for me as a deterrent.

[D23MIURG23]

83. I would settle for having them fired.

No torture needed, and at the end of the day we have one more trash collector to keep our streets clean. Sounds good to me.

[obxhead]

105. No, they should be charged criminally and serve harsh sentences

in high security prisons.

You lead by example and that would be a good one.

[enlightenment]

4. They do include a sample shot -

unfortunately, I believe they only receive one shot for the prescribed length of time. What seems to be happening more and more is people receiving far more than what is prescribed by the 'experts'.

Tasers are turning out to be a very bad idea. When I was a kid, I remember reading about how the police were taught to 'shoot to incapacitate', not to kill. Now they are taught to 'shoot to kill'. I suppose that's reasonable, but teaching it also teaches a mindset that brooks absolutely no dissent and allows for no thoughtfulness.

Tasers, as 'non lethal' weapons, make it far too easy for individuals who have embraced that mindset to the device too quickly, too often, and to excess.

[lovuian]

28. Tasers are torture

torture at its worst
and should be banned
We will see more and more episodes of this

[defendandprotect]

79. Agree . . . and the settings should be checked by and on the Town Council membes who buy this stuff

Who'd do this job anymore now that it's been so brutalized and militarized --

only those with a strong urge to punish -- authoritarians -- those who's main

aim is to control others.

[Golden Raisin]

97. Perhaps they should be

tested (full force) on the Town Council members (or whomever) authorizes their purchase.

[BEZERKO]

102. I think it does actually,

I know in the pepper spray training they're sprayed with it. I agree, it would teach restraint, but in this case, I think this is just a geeked up cop high on adrenaline and stress!

[Champion Jack]

3. I hope she sues the fuck out of them

[CoffeeCat]

77. You speak for me...

I'm so angry now, I'd like to kick those bastards to kingdom come.

They're sick animals.

The only thing that will stop this barbaric behavior is to SUE the police who use these
tasers when it is not warranted. You do not use a taser just because you feel like it
or because someone pisses you off.

This is revolting.

[laughingliberal]

89. +1000 nt

[Uncle Joe]

5. I believe that was torture and the woman should sue them.

Thanks for the thread, Joanne.

[ladjf]

6. We've got so many things going wrong in America that it is difficult

to decide where to start. Scenes like we viewed on this tape are accomplishing nothing other than the officer's sheer pleasure upon torturing the victim. We could end this type of action quickly if strict regulations were written and enforced.

[mnhtnbb]

7. White racist cops and black woman in Georgia. C'mon. Who's surprised?

You don't think this kind of shit doesn't still go down in the south?

The only reason one has been fired and the other is on suspension is due to having
a tape of the event.

[Kutjara]

9. Why do you think a number of legislatures are rushing bills through...

...making it illegal to record or tape cops? Others are starting to use "obstruction" laws to the same effect. The stormtroopers are starting to get pissed off that mere citizens are ruining all their fun.

http://gizmodo.com/5553765/are-cameras-the-new-guns

[DiverDave]

56. +1000!!

I showed my kids, they ho-humed it...they see so much of this crap it doesnt even register.
The wife got mad because I was outraged...

I live on another planet, I'm trying to teach them to be outraged at this type of crap, but they get to go swimming in the next-door neighbors pool...sigh... my head hurts.

[crim son]

8. I could only watch a second of her getting tased

and now I have tears in my eyes. Any cop who does this must be immediately put on leave without pay, and if it is proven that he fucked up like this one obviously did, he must be permanently relieved of duty. No more excuses for these sadistic shits. NO MORE.

[Shining Jack]

15. I couldn't click on the vid.I've seen people being tased too many times,including kids.

In addition to be permanently relieved of duty,criminal charges should be pressed against him.He won't be so tough while in jail. :(

[crim son]

34. Yeah, you're right.

And I'm sorry you've seen any of that. I find it a peculiarly horrifying way to subdue an offender, let alone a person innocent of any crime.

[liberation]

40. "put on leave without pay?" That is too lenient IMHO

Cops pulling this shit should be fired at the very least is more like it, and prosecuted if we actually lived in a nation of laws.

[crim son]

44. Well, I did mean during the investigation; they wouldn't fire

him without some sort of investigation, would they? Once found guilty, fire them and put them in jail.

[liberation]

48. Funny though, most people don't have the benefit of an "investigation" when they are fired.

I'd say let cops get a taste of how the "real world" works, just like the rest of us.

[crim son]

57. So true. And when they are "investigated"

they are invariably found innocent of any wrongdoing. Disgusting.

[Dawson Leery]

114. Tasers are one of those things make bring to the point of vomiting.

Electroshocks combined with the inability to control ones own body can only be a horrific
experience. :argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh:v

[L0oniX]

10. It's only a few bad apples.

:sarcasm:

[D23MIURG23]

85. Just like any other compost pile. n/t

[Butch350]

11. What the video doesn't show is....

What did she do or say to provoke the police to Tas and arrest her.

I just can't imagine a cop approaching someone and then just start tasing the S**T
out of them without some kind of little excuse.

We are just looking at a portion of a video that doesn't encompass the whole situation.

[GodlessBiker]

13. I think you are being naive. Often, not always, but often, the people who are drawn to become...

cops are people with personalities which get off on having authority and control over others. That kind of authority can evolve into believing you have the right to do with people as you wish if they even glance at you the wrong way.

What could she have said to have warranted this? And would words alone be enough? Would some action be required on her part? And if she did act in a violent way off camera, does that give the police officer the right to do this?

This is not a situation in which you have two average citizens having a dispute. This is a dispute between a lay person and government authority - a trained, experienced, armed, police officer, who should know how to handle a situation, even a violent situation, better than this.

These tasings have gotten out of control. Major lawsuits need to be filed to make the indiscriminate use of these devices too expensive.

[Butch350]

31. The women is not even visible.

Still I have no idea what she did and neither does any one else here.

[October]

55. Well, the cop was fired... so... /nt

[Joe Chi Minh]

51. Why would she be violent when she had requested the policeman's presence? And why

the backup? Did he have reason to believe she was a martial arts expert?

[pattmarty]

68. I have always called it the "John Wayne" complex. I have never.........

..........had a cop as a Friend not because of I automatically don't like any of them, but my personality is not the same as a cops, I've met enough of them in 63 yrs to know.

[Cybergata]

14. What possible words would deserve this sort of treatment?

She was tased because she didn't get up and bounce into the back seat of the police car while she was being tased 8 times and writhing in pain on the ground. As a 57 year old teacher myself, I take this personally.

[Butch350]

32. All I see is a cop tasing someone who has a ladies voice...

and it's so convienient that MSNBC only shows the tasing and nothing that went on before the tasing. I just sayin.

Sanchez being a drama queen. He is also putting words in the guest cops mouth.

[sabrina 1]

94. She would have to have violently attacked them with a deadly

weapon and injured someone for any kind of justification for what happened to her. Is there any report that that is what happened?

It's also possible that we didn't see what happened before because very little happened and it would only make them look worse.

It's stunning to me how many Americans support the brutality and militarization of the police. Commnents like yours are an example of why we have police bashing down doors and killing children and pets and other innocent people, and then 'investigations' declaring that they 'were following procedure'.

In any other democracy there would be outrage over just one incident of what occurs in this country on a daily basis. As someone said recently, Americans have become so traumatized by the abuse they take that they are almost willing victims at this point.

There is simply no justification for this kind of abuse. In a decent society, no self-respecting cop would ever treat a citizen this way, even they were resisting arrest. A smart, courageous police force can handle these situations without too much effort. The U.S. police force is a frightened, cowardly institution who view the public as the enemy.

[Raineyb]

99. You should just stop. Because you out yourself as an authoritarian ass

every time you continue to post excuses for this shit. This isn't a new story. It's been out for a few days, the woman called because she thought there was a prowler and the cops turned on HER. One quit and is now working for a different sheriff's office where no doubt he'll go on to abuse someone else until the day comes when the son of a bitch kills someone. Seriously if you saw the police raping someone on tape would you sit there and say, "well we didn't see what happened before the man had sex with her so we don't know if she consented or even contracted for the treatment the officers doled out on her."

Just stop. You're porcine tendencies are showing and it's too bloody early to be this god-damned nauseous.

[1monster]

104. The sheriff drove up as the whosit with a tazer finished tazing her for the EIGHTH time.

The sheriff was shocked by what the cops had done. He believed that there was a racial component to the events. One man (the whosit with the tazer) was fired and the other suspended. He resigned as a result.

Had there been any way to exonerate these men, I'm sure they would be exonerated. That's how it usually works.

In this case, though, the sheriff knew the victim (school teacher), which probably meant a better chance at fair play for her than having all the advantages go to her torturers.

[mr1956]

111. This was CNN, not MSNBC. Did you even look at the video?

[sulphurdunn]

17. The video clearly shows her being tazed

after having been restrained. Whatever she did to provoke the police to restrain her is irrelevant.

[pnwmom]

18. Did you watch the video through to the end? The person being interviewed

pointed out that there was no excuse for the 2nd officer to enter the situation and to start tasering the person without stopping to determine what was actually happening.

[TheEuclideanOne]

19. Watch the video, it might enlighten you.

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here, not assuming that you would be stupid enough to make that comment after watching the video, learning that one police officer was fired, one suspended and the other analysis by the two people giving their input on the proper police procedure.

[Name removed]

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[TheEuclideanOne]

38. Apparently I hit a sensitive chord here.

Sorry to touch on such a sensive topic for you. The kids must have really made fun of you when you got off of that little yellow bus everyday, eh, and you were probably hoping that the "S" word would stop when you got a little bit older. Kids can be mean, can't they?

I must warn you. Becareful of what you ask for. There was a story online a while back of a guy who threatened some other guy online and the guy actually flew all the way over to the guys house and shot him dead. If you throw out those threats too often, somebody might take you up on your offer. The next thing you know will be that one moment you are in your "house" playing WOW in your parents basement, and a moment later you are getting the crap beat out of you by some guy you threatened online.

Don't worry, though. You are safe with me. If I beat up every guy who demonstrated that they are as stupid as a bag of rocks, I would be literally flying 7 days a week from idiot to idiot. In your case, though, I am pretty sure that no jury would convict me.

[liberation]

42. Nah...

... he or she is a run of the mill disruptor (I guess the T-word is a no-no these days), looking for feed. And he or she found another fertile ground to grace.

[centerdem]

58. I wouldnt worry

I wouldnt worry about that guys threats because anyone that would tase a 57 year old woman without a weapon or would even defend it is a coward and a punk.

[TheEuclideanOne]

60. Yeah, I always find it funny to physically threaten somebody online

It is such a blind threat because you know nothing about the other person. I could be a professioal wrestler, a NEO Nazi with a really bad attitude or an 89 year old lady.

I thought that it was funny that he wanted me to fly over to where he lives so that he could kick my ass. :rofl: You would think that if he was so upset, the least that he could do was fly to my house. It is like saying, "You pissed me off so much that I want you to fly to where I live so I can tell you in person!!!"

[Boudica the Lyoness]

21. Bloody hell!

It doesn't matter what she said to them. Imagine for a moment a person with a mental disability or dementia saying something inappropriate (which they can do sometimes), do they deserve to be beaten or whatever?
Remember these pigs are not your judge, jury and executioner!

[JoeyT]

22. Shoe polish smells bad enough you'd think people would avoid the taste of it.

What did she *say*? Are you fucking kidding me?
So you're endorsing torture for contempt of cop?

[20score]

27. While I was watching the video, before I read the comments, I thought, there is always some ass

that defends the cops no matter what they do. No matter how much worse they are than any criminal most of us have ever seen. Maybe this one, after the thousands of other videos out there showing cops as sadistic criminals - maybe this one will be free of that.

Guess not.

These cops should not just be fired, they should be in jail. And it's way past the time for us to start demanding cops like these go to prison.

If they can't be cops without torturing old women, then they should get a different job.

[tblue37]

30. How funny that you would claim this! I just came to this thread after viewing a video of

a quiet young woman arrested by a cop for blowing bubbles. He told her, in a tough guy voice and with a snarling expression on his face, that if a bubble so much as touched him, he would arrest her for assault--and apparently one must have, because he did.

If cops feel it's okay to arrest and charge someone with assault for quietly blowing bubbles, then it obviously takes pretty much nothing to make them think their authority is being challenged.

Also, remember what happened to Harvard Professor Gates, who was arrested in his own home for asking a cop why he was harassing him in his home?

I collect articles about cops tasing the heck out of people or otherwise assaulting them and roughing them up, even when there is no justification at all. Many of these stories come with videos. It is obvious that some of these guys are just getting off on being able to assault people for any reason at all--even people who are in wheelchairs or otherwise handicapped, like the legless man who was tased and then left sitting for hours on a curb, with no pants on.

There really are people who like to assault other people, and nowadays many of them deliberately go into law enforcement just so they can prance around demanding that everyone "Respect my authoritay!". My collection of such articles is enormous and constantly growing! My "favorite--i.e., the most horrifying--is the one about the cops who attacked and pepper sprayed a 71-year-old deaf, partially blind woman for not responding when they said something from behind her that she didn't hear. Then, when her 94-year-old mother brought out a small Tupeprware bowl full of water to wash her daughter's glass eye, which had popped out into the street when the cops tackled her, the cops then grabbed the older woman and slammed her against a wall. Later, they said they feared she might use the small bowl of water as a weapon!

One man I know applied for the DEA because he thought it would be so cool to have a gun and a badge so people would have to jump whenever he said "Frog." I think many apply for such jobs for that very reason--and all too many of them are getting the jobs.

[HardWorkingDem]

37. Right, another DU arm chair commander painting with a broad brush..

does it ever end.

[Joe Chi Minh]

54. It might if you're yet another hapless victim, particularly, with a dicky heart.

[HardWorkingDem]

62. If you want to besmirch specific people, fine....

but when it comes to nailing the whole group, that's another thing...

[Joe Chi Minh]

107. But you clearly don't want any policeman to be castigated,

no matter with what lawless violence he behaved towards someone who has called for his assistance, as a public servant, employed and paid from her taxes to do just that; and by that you besmirch yourself, irredeemably.

[D23MIURG23]

86. Right, another holier than thou DU authoritarian...

Don't these people ever figure out how to hide threads?

News flash: its a free society. None of us are required to worship cops just because they "serve in uniform"(TM). If you don't like people complaining about police brutality, there are plenty of sentimental threads full of pictures of president Obama smiling and hugging his wife that I'm sure you will like better. Why don't you go find those?

[Joe Chi Minh]

52. I think you have a lot of Raoul Moat clones in your police forces, ready to

crack. But making sure to take the line of least resistance; unarmed, and preferably old and female. Going out in a blaze of glory.
Just don't blow a bubble gum near them or they'll soil their pants.

[tblue37]

59. It wasn't even bubble gum. It was *bubbles*, blown with a bubble

wand and bubble soap. The sort of thing even 2-year-olds play with without being afraid and screaming that they are being assaulted.

[Joe Chi Minh]

108. I know. But I wanted to add a hint of REAL menace.

[tblue37]

112. Heh.nt

[tblue37]

66. I forgot to mention that after pepper spraying the 71-year-old deaf, blind lady

and knocking out her glass eye, they also tased her four times. Obviously there was no good reason for that. They were just having fun.

[Joe Chi Minh]

109. Devils incarnate.

[tblue37]

36. This blog tells the whole story--and it makes the cops look even worse.

http://www.popehat.com/2010/07/12/i-found-my-third-grade-teacher-intimidating-when-i-was-in-third-grade/

A neighbor was standing with her until the cops came, so she would feel safe. When the cop got there, he demanded the name of the man with her. She said he didn't need to know his name, because he wasn't why she had called the cops. The cop then said she had to give him the name or he would arrest her for obstruction of justice.

Then when she tried to go back into her house he chased her down, pepper sprayed her, and tried to handcuff her. Obviously this was an illegal arrest. She hadn't done anything wrong, but the cop was pissed that she didn't immediately tell him the name of the neighbor who was standing with her. Basically, he was arresting her for not obeying his demands, even though they were not appropriate in the first place.

While he was chasing her around the house (and she was obviously fleeing because as a black woman being chased by a white cop, she was friggin' afraid that he might do her harm, especially since he had already pepper sprayed her for no reason), he tripped and hurt his knee. That's why he called for back-up. He needed help improperly arresting this 57-year-old woman. The cop who came to help jumped out of his car with his taser ready to go, without even knowing what the situation was.

Your comment attempting to justify the cop's behavior is big time fail.

BTW, notice that while demanding the name of the innocent neighbor who was just staying with her to keep her safe from the potential intruder, the cop made no effort to find out whether there was an intruder or to catch such a person if there was. He was called to deal with a possible intruder, but instead harassed the woman and her neighbor for no reason at all. If there was an intruder, he was left free to go away and come back another day.

No wonder people in minority neighborhoods are afraid to call the cops or to cooperate with them. This is what happens when they interact with the cops, even if they are the ones who called them for help in the first place. Another cop from the same department admitted that such a thing would not have happened if the woman had been white.

[liberation]

41. So here comes the 'good American' contingent....

... making sure they make their 'good German' counterparts of yore look like down right anarchical unruly mobs in comparison, one lame ass justification of the status quo and abuse at a time....

[LargeGreenSpider]

43. Oh, you just can't imagine, huh?

Get real.

[pattmarty]

69. Google "Columbia, Mo police raid" and come back here to spout........

..........the same kind of cop loving bullshit. You are extremely naive.

[donheld]

81. Right I Suppose that's why the officer was fired for the tazing.

[D23MIURG23]

87. That is because it is irrelevant. The tazer is not a tool of retaliation.

The question is whether they needed the tazer in order to make her submit to arrest.

And they didn't.

[SemperEadem]

93. blame the victim for what the cop has chosen to do of his own volition...

boy, are you naive.

[TommyO]

101. She was the one who called the police because she thought

there was somebody in her house. When they arrived, they found her talking with another man and started badgering her about the identity of that other man. When she said that he wasn't involved and they didn't need to know about him, they started to arrest her for obstructing a police investigation.

[1monster]

103. The story is in the url below. The cop was called to her home by Janice Wells to report

a prowler. Before the first cop arrived, she called a friend (male) to come over to stay with her until the cop arrived. When the cop got there, he decided that the call was a domestic violence call and got angry when Wells refused to answer questions about her friend because he had nothing to do with the reason the police were called in the first place. The cop allowed the friend to leave and then started in on Wells.

http://www.ajc.com/news/2-officers-out-of-568967.html

[DFW]

12. I can see where this is leading, and it isn't pretty

Some fine day, a cop or two is going to start using his taser on the wrong family member, and
a trio or more of heavily armed family members or friends, exercising their Republican-granted
Second Amendment rights, are going to come out shooting to defend their family and plead self-
defense. No matter what the outcome of the subsequent trial is, the local cops where the incident
occurred will be then using their own firearms quicker than is necessary to defend themselves
against potential deadly force, whether real or imagined, and EVERYBODY will be claiming self-defense.

Get rid of the tasers before this happens, because it is only a matter of time before it DOES happen.

[KansDem]

23. I agree...

Just a couple of weeks ago I was arriving home when I saw my 18-year-old daughter in our second car pulled over in front of our house by a police officer. I thought "Uh-oh...didn't get the car registered in time." (we purchased a used-car about a month earlier and missed the 30-day registration deadline. We were in the wrong, no doubt.

I pulled into the driveway and walked over to see my daughter who was sitting in the car. The officer was sitting in his patrol car right behind her, filling out the ticket.

I leaned over to see if my daughter was all right. The officer quickly got out of his car and walked up to me, saying "Who are you? Who are you?"

I replied, "I'm her father," to which he said "Move away until I'm done here!"

O-kay, I thought and I walked around the front of the car and stood on our front lawn. The officer took another five minutes or so and finished his paper work. He got out of his car and had my daughter sign the ticket, then started back to his car...got about halfway...then turned to me and said, "You can talk to her now."

He seemed rather terse the whole time.

But I thought as I stood there watching him talk to my daughter, what if an argument broke out between the two of them? What if it was escalating to the point I thought he'd harm my daughter? Would I continue to stand there and watch as a "good citizen" or would I, as a father, intervene to see that no harm came to my daughter?

How far would this go? And who would be injured or killed?

[DFW]

24. IF I saw a cop tasing my daughter, and IF I were armed......

There is no question that it would end very badly for at least one of us.

[D23MIURG23]

84. +1

[cartach]

72. What if an argument -

had broken out between you and your daughter,between you and the police officer or because daddy had arrived on the scene,an argument between your daughter and the police officer. The officer had the perfect right to not only request you to butt out until he was finished but an obligation to do so to minimize the chance of any conflict from occuring. Who do you think a court is going to sympathize with if no harm actually occurs to your daughter or if harm does occur to her because she resists? All this concern by you over a traffic ticket? Why would you think that any harm would come to your daughter in the scenario you describe? Everything seemed pretty tame and commonplace to me.

[quakerboy]

90. I agree with you, as far as it goes.

However, should there be a law to stop him from video taping the whole thing, as several states are apparently attempting?

Or alternately, the situation that occurred at my aunts house just a few days ago. Their neighbors adult son and wife were pulled over right in front of their house. Short version, he had been involved in a road rage incident wherein he was stabbed, but then the person doing the stabbing tried to cover his own rear by calling the cops and claiming he had been shooting at them. So, the cops, justifiably, showed up moments later in full force. 12 cars, guns drawn, etc. So far, a little overkill, but still within reasonable situation. My aunt is the neighborhood watch snoop. So when anything happens, she's gotta look. My uncle just happened to be out on their front porch, well back from the street where things were occurring, not doing or saying anything. The cops told them they had to go inside.

Reasonable to take precautions in a dangerous job. Asking someone to step back and leave a safe space while giving a ticket. Showing up with overwhelming force for something reported to be very dangerous. Totally unreasonable to demand that no one ever watch or record them. Scrutiny and constant double checking, video, witnesses, and all manner of safeguards should be in place when dealing with the level of power and authority our police hold.

[20score]

29. + 1,000

[Shining Jack]

16. K&R

Disgusting !

[Boudica the Lyoness]

20. If this wasn't on video tape no one would have believed her.

The American police are so dangerous to the American public there should be a law every time they interact with the public it should be video taped. The American public needs protection from them.

[axollot]

25. K & R. I have noticed that any police force that's trained or "up-trained"

by the assholes at Blackwater/Xe (there are online lists that show who has had the training) are the most brutal officers with the most human right/civil right violations; police brutality charges etc.

It's time that our police stop receiving this sort of brutal training, cover ups etc (New Orleans during Katrina for example Blackwater trained/up-trained).

Sad. This has been coming for sometime and if not stopped will come to a county near you soon. (if not already)

Cheers
Sandy

[Celtic Merlin]

26. She's going to be one seriously WEALTHY teacher soon.

Perhaps when the police become enough of a FINANCIAL liability to municipalities, they'll take the time to screen their applicants and train their officers well and properly.

Celtic Merlin
Carlinist

[Joanne98]

73. Yep

[tblue37]

35. This blog provides a much more complete explanation of what happened--

and it is even more damning. The reason she was origianlly chased, pepper sprayed, and arrested is so bogus it makes me want to hurl, and at least one other cop says he is pretty sure it wouldn't have happened if she ere white (that comment is at the end of the blog article, so read the whole thing). Also, the cop who tased her was given a job as a sheriff's deputy by another department soon after he resigned to avoid being fired from the Richland department.

here's a link tot he complete story: http://www.popehat.com/2010/07/12/i-found-my-third-grade-teacher-intimidating-when-i-was-in-third-grade/

[tblue37]

39. k&r

[Dirigo]

46. If Black Taser

I am embarrassed to say it but these officers are not professional and just a couple of local yokels, unskilled, probably marginal recruits and certainly untrained. My worse fear is that these two unprofessional police officers are probably racists, but we will let the prosecuting attorneys, the defense attorneys and the NAACP and the ACLU debate that score and prove it with testimony under oath, etc. I am a former state trooper and to simply come upon a scene like this one and immediately apply a taser gun is cruel and smacks of "oh, well! She's a black woman and I'll punish her and worry about why later!" Just Disgraceful Conduct. It's these southern hillbillies in uniform that makes dedicated professional police officers blanche and cringe. What is it going to take for officers to become more sensitive and understanding of what their jobs entail. Both should have been summarily FIRED. At the very least the city responsible for these renegade cops should pay a hefty award to the school teacher. Georgia has a horrendous reputation as a backwater flyover state once you're out of the Atlanta city limits. The people of Georgia are ridiculed daily for their lack of education, intolerance toward others different from themselves, and their extreme views on pretty much all issues affecting society--certainly not mainstream views. I think it is this sickness in the air over Georgia that affects the performance of even its police. Shame on the officers, their supervisors who apparantly are not very good at teaching, coaching and training their charge! Not everyone is cut out to be a good police officer and the local governments have got to do a better job at weeding out the intellectually lazy, boisterous known it all personalities, those who are incapable of listening and quick to take unwarranted extreme measures rather than assessing a situation maturely.

[Cowpunk]

45. I'm glad he played the tape, but Sanchez's commentary is moronic.

First of all, he states that one officer was fired, one suspended. Not true. The older cop was fired, the trigger-happy freak quit and was quickly hired by another agency.

Second, Sanchez says this: "They're supposed to be used for compliance!" Wrong, idiot. The cop in this video is doing just that-using his Taser to force compliance. Tasers are supposed to be used to immobilize dangerous suspects, NOT as a pain compliance weapon. Apparently Rick Sanchez is perfectly OK with cops using the threat of Taser torture to force compliance. Jackass.

[liberation]

49. Sanchez is a moron, so indeed... moron is as moron says.

But then again labeling most mass media figures as being moronic is sort of redundant.

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[Dirigo]

Response to apparant "low competency"

Run time: 06:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e-8Jqz8qxg   Posted on YouTube: July 16, 2010 By YouTube Member: setokaiba22 Views on YouTube: 455   Posted on DU: July 17, 2010 By DU Member: Dirigo Views on DU: 8569

 
We need to give all our police officers some latitude but we must also expect of them some modicum of understanding, respect for people who summon the help of the police, and we expect them to make sound snap judgments upon responding to the scene of any police response. We seem to get that even with our Privates and Private First Class soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq but can't seem to get the attention of and cooperation of our uniformed civilian police officers responding to a school teacher calling the police for assistance. Clearly, these officers are incompetent and sadly they are probably not alone. I have noticed over the years a decline in even the appearance of police officers and how they carry themselves in the public view. It seems the police have a less than professional air about them which you see in their uniform and appearance. I've seen police officers seldom wearing the trademark police officers cap or so called "Smokey Bear Hat" going with the marine recruit crew cut that looks like a bowl was placed over their heads and they shaved themselves. Not looking like a police officer with unsightly redneck style tatoos everywhere is also another turn off for the public. Lets face it, it is low class and lower middle class yet they expect to be accorded the kind of respect others who take more pride in their appearance make sure they do. They often can't talk civily to the people, distant and aloof. It is all a breakdown in command communications, command supervision and command insistance on pride and appearance becoming of a police officer. We can clearly see our officers do not appear to be getting OJT on the job training by competent sergeants, lieutenants and captains. Everyone is locked up in their ivory tower and don't want to hear any bad news and do nothing to lessen the chances of receiving bad news. I am inclined to think hiring standards are too low these days, but though it may not be the case, the preponderance of evidence indicates not enough is invested in the officer.

[Joe Chi Minh]

50. It just seems to go and on, doesn't it? Where is the moral outrage in high places?

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[benld74]

63. GEET in the car! GEET in the car, OR YA GEET it again! CLASSY!

PIGS

[Joanne98]

70. Yeah, I heard that too.

[ovidsen]

64. The fired Taser cop? Hes working again. IN A POLICE DEPT.

This whole story is sick, but add this particular flavor of shit frosting and you get a very unsettling feeling about the mindset in this particular part of west Georgia. Ryan Smith, the taser trigger happy cop who resigned under pressure after this incident, had no trouble finding a new job. In the sheriff's department of an adjacent county.

http://www.ajc.com/news/2-officers-out-of-568967.html

Smith who is white, who quit eight days after the incident, remains unrepentant. "I did what I had to do to take control of the situation," Smith told the AJC Atlanta Journal-Constituiton about his decision to repeatedly discharge his Taser on a black 3rd grade teacher at her home.

Yet his former boss, Lumpkin Police Chief Steven Ogle who is black, was shocked when he saw the video.

"I couldn’t believe it,” Ogle said. “You don’t use it for punitive reasons, to prod someone. It was evident it was an improper use of force. He was an excellent officer other than that incident."

Smith resigned just as Ogle started the process to fire him, the chief said. Smith now works for the Chattahoochee County Sheriff's office.

edit: add link.

[Meldread]

65. Watching this makes me sick.

I swear to god, I don't know how that other guy just stood there. I'm watching the grainy video and I'm filled with absolute rage. As she's screaming, I can only picture my mother being in this type of situation - they're roughly the same age.

If this were my mother, hell - had I been her neighbor there - those cops would have found out that it isn't only conservatives and Republicans who believe in the second amendment and who have guns. The Second Amendment exists to protect us from people LIKE THESE COPS.

I hope these cops are prosecuted; the only sad part is that I won't be able to sit on the jury.

[notadmblnd]

91. The other one standing there and just watching- in my opion is the reason

they all get painted with the same broad brush. If he were a real man, he would have stopped the officer. I didn't see that happen.

[Dawson Leery]

115. +1

[era veteran]

71. Anybody who wants to be a cop probably should not.

That's why we call you pigs. Damn tasers.

[davidhilton]

74. Must be more to this story.

[Suji to Seoul]

75. there is more. She's black.

Enough said

[roxiejules]

76. There is.....

http://www.ajc.com/news/2-officers-out-of-568967.html

But all agree that the struggle between Wells, 57, and Murphy, 52, started because she would not tell him the name of a friend who was at her house in Richland, 35 miles southeast of Columbus, when Murphy arrived around 9:30 p.m. on April 26.

Wells, who teaches in Columbus, said she had called to report a prowler. Murphy wrote in his police report that he was dispatched to check out a report of an “unwanted guest.”

John Robinson was at Wells' house when Murphy pulled up. Robinson told the AJC his friend of 26 years had called him to be with her until the police arrived. Robinson lives 10 miles from Wells and her husband was in McRae, almost 90 miles away.

According to Robinson, Wells and the police reports, the officer only asked Robinson how long he had known Wells, the status of their relationship and where he lived. Murphy asked nothing more, not even Robinson's name.

Moments later Robinson left. Murphy wrote he let the man leave because it is best to seperate people in domestic violence situations.

“I could always arrest him later if I needed to since he lived nearby,” Murphy wrote in a report obtained by the AJC.

But Wells and Robinson said there was no violence and nothing to suggest there had been any.

As Robinson pulled out of the driveway, Murphy asked Wells for her friend's name.

She refused to give it.

“'You don’t need to know that,'” Murphy wrote in his report was Wells' response. “I told her that she would need to give me the information that I needed or she would be arrested for obstruction. I explained that state law mandates that we investigate to determine if there has been any family violence.”

She retrieved her purse and began walking around the side of her house until Murphy said he was taking her to jail.

“Janice then backed up from me in a fight or flight stance and I grabbed her arm and placed a handcuff on it,” Murphy wrote. “She pulled away and she took off. I sprayed her with pepper spray. I chased her around the house and tripped and fell, injuring my knee just as I caught up with her. As I was once again walking her to the car, she broke loose again and ran. She tripped and fell and I grabbed her again. As we got to the car, I attempted to get the other handcuff on her and get her in the car.”

[Festivito]

78. "Well, you saw what the police did when they arrived on the scene.." NO, I DID NOT.

1. The situation is behind a car that I cannot see through.

2. The film starts with one officer already there, not arriving.

Commentator might mean that I can TELL what the SECOND officer did when HE arrived, but not that he tased -- that I could not SEE. I could hear a tasing sound, and if shown or admitted the taser was used then I could tell that someone behind the car reacted as though tased.

How an officer gets from responding to a call to tasing the caller is a big question. Looks like the worst bad day in his life, or it could be just another bad day in the life of a bad man that shouldn't be on a police force.

[donheld]

82. He was fired

http://electronicvillage.blogspot.com/2010/07/two-georgia-cops-fired-for-taser-abuse.html

[Juche]

80. This is why we need to make it illegal for civilians to record police officers

:sarcasm:

[peacetalksforall]

88. The United States of Tasers. What kind of permissions are spoken that give the

cops the impressions that it is OK to do this. There is an incident that hits the news about every three weeks. Then each one is forgotten.

[bobburgster]

92. Thanks for posting this....

this crap needs to stop!

[Hubert Flottz]

95. When a president and vice president okay torture and murder...

and then another president decides not to punish anyone for crimes like that, they set examples.

America has slipped down the slippery slope so far that torture is now the norm.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

96. Someday we will be trying to find a way to harness the power

of the taser for peaceful purposes. So much wasted energy, so many lawsuits.

[donco6]

98. Always ask yourself, "Would this have happened had she been white?"

When the answer is no (which it usually is), there's a real big problem.

[Faygo Kid]

100. Too many cops are FReepers.

Or at least sympathetic to their Nazi tendencies.

[Joe Chi Minh]

110. Every generation deserves its Kristallnacht. So long ago. And such fun.

[Bonobo]

106. They are NOT tools of COMPLIANCE.

Even the aangry talking head got it wrong.

They are NOT meant to be tools to obtain compliance.

[Bullet1987]

113. I'm getting tired of this sh*t!!!