Firedoglake.com's Jane Hamsher on Dem. Reaction to Robert Gibbs'

[spiritual_gunfighter]

Run time: 06:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHfBv8V2QNs   Posted on YouTube: August 11, 2010 By YouTube Member: firedoglake Views on YouTube: 301   Posted on DU: August 12, 2010 By DU Member: spiritual_gunfighter Views on DU: 5100

 
Jane Hamsher is an American hero. I am going to get my card soon.

[KingFlorez]

1. She has no room to say anything about Gibbs

Didn't she align with Grover Norquist?

[NJmaverick]

2. yes, amoung her many faults

[spiritual_gunfighter]

12. Just in case you missed my gigantic smackdown

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=494177&mesg_id=494217

I really wanted you to read it Mav.

[NJmaverick]

32. You must have posted the wrong link because

I didn't see a "giant smackdown"

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[SoxFan]

95. Yeah, you really told 'em!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[mmonk]

4. Yes, she is a firm believer in Grover Norquist and is of like mind

on being against progressivism and is for limited government and right wing causes. That is why she is one of the professional left.

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[KingFlorez]

13. Proving points once again

Hamsher joined with Norquist to call for Rahm Emanuel to resign, so it wasn't just a petition. This is exactly why Gibbs said what he said, the far left is incredibly reactionary and doesn't see the big picture.

[girl gone mad]

16. It was a petition for Rahm to resign.

Yes, liberals react when corrupt, sleazy politicians line their own pockets with funds designed to help poor people.

In that sense we are incredibly reactionary, and quite rightly so.

[KingFlorez]

19. Hyperbole doesn't help your position

Grover Norquist called for the resignation because he wants to damage the administration however he can, it wasn't over any issue, so that's why it was wrong for her to align with him, his motivation was wrong.

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[KingFlorez]

22. They can talk about whoever they want to talk about, I'm not worried about that

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of some on the left. Hamsher wanted Lynn Woolsey to resign as chair of the Progressive Caucus because she didn't feel she is progressive enough, which was very absurd, since you can't get more progressive than Woolsey. I think Hamsher lacks credibility.

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[KingFlorez]

25. Recommendations that probably won't be used

Norquist only testified before the commission, I haven't heard about word about his ideas being used.

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[whatchamacallit]

41. +1

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[SkyDaddy7]

30. I will give you an answer...

Maybe Obama is leaving no excuse for folks to say the advice was one sided! Obama has always listened to all voices and I think that says a lot about who he is as a leader. He is not trying to score political points he is actually the first President who is serious about fixing this country's problems!

If you think Obama is going to follow Grover Norquist's advice then WHY IN HELL is Obama pushing to end the Bush Tax Cuts in an election year?

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[SkyDaddy7]

57. Yes you are correct! Obama is an under cover special agent for the Right Wing!

Thanks for pointing that out I feel liberated!

[Better Believe It]

81. Obama does listen to all voices, especially those coming from Wall Street and corporate America.

[JJW]

71. It only OK

when Obama is being bipartisan!

[SkyDaddy7]

29. I may not be a fan of Rahm...

But accusing him of corruption & stealing money that was meant for the poor is something I had never heard about...Can you provide a link please?

[MsPithy]

73. okee dokee

http://firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/jane-hamsher-grover-norquist-call-for-rahm-emmanuel%E2%80%99s-resignation/

[SkyDaddy7]

93. REALLY?

That is like providing me a link to a freerep to prove Obama is not a US Citizen.

Thanks!

[defendandprotect]

55. Most of us would sign a Petition for Rahm to resign . . .!!

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[Dr.Phool]

62. I want to sign that petition too!!!!

Where z'it at?

[EFerrari]

26. You don't have to be reactionary to dislike Rahm. You just have to be conscious and to the left

of Richard Nixon.

[roguevalley]

27. I agree with both of them that Rahm should resign. I suppose that

makes me a traitor too.

[sabrina 1]

28. So Rahm's career is more important than the economy

of this country to you?

Let's see ~

Hamsher signed a petition also signed by Grover Norquist asking Rahm to step down after some charges of possible corruption surfaced ( he should be fired imho).

The WH Commission on the Deficit invites Grover Norquist to make recommendations on this country's Republican caused economic collapse.

So! Which one of those two things would have more negative impact on the American people?

It is so easy that I am literally stunned that here in this thread people who already were told of this Grover/White House connection, are still hypocritically pointing AWAY from those facts AT Jane Hamsher.

[NorthCarolina]

34. I would join with ANYONE calling for Rahm to resign...on that issue. eom

[azmesa207]

60. Hamsher joined Norquist to call for Rham Emanuel to resign

what wrong with that he the biggest reason we didn't get single Payer health insurance and he the one that continues to push Obama to go to the republicans for bipartisanship . He should be fired .

[girl gone mad]

14. I've pointed that out dozens of times, but they persist in their blind attack.

A fine display of cognitive dissonance in action.

[sabrina 1]

18. It's okay to rely on Grover Norquist's advice if you're part of the

Obama administration? Why was he invited to give advice on the economy by a Democratic Commission on the deficit? What could he possibly have to contribute on that subject that we do not already know about him?

I know I did not support Obama expecting to see him drag Republicans like Norquist out of the political gutter the people threw them into, and raise them up to positions of influence when they had been successfully relegated to obscurity where they belong.

I was expecting that those who trashed Hamsher for her brief association with him to be positively outraged at the Obama administration for allowing this happen.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

23. I was expecting them to be outraged as well

They right well should be, but they arent. It is amazing to me what goes on around here.

The really disturbing thing are the actual recommendations he gave to the Commission.

If Grover Norquist has our President's ear we are all doomed.

[Enthusiast]

40. LOL!

Curious, yes.

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[QC]

15. She is an enemy of the people. n/t

[L0oniX]

54. LOL

[ncteechur]

3. Hamsher is part of the problem, not the solution.

[mmonk]

6. Yes, her non-conformity is intolerable.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

11. Yep thats what they hate. n/t

[mmonk]

33. Correct.

Independent thought is frowned upon and bi-partisanship has a double standard.

[QC]

17. She is a kulak and a counter-revolutionary. n/t

[NJmaverick]

31. sort of like Glenn Beck's non-conformity

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[NJmaverick]

44. So you claim President Obama is like Glenn Beck

glad you clarified you position on our President.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

45. You just claimed Jane Hamsher is like Glenn Beck

What I am saying is that Jane Hamsher and Glenn Beck dont dictate policy and Glenn Beck has a lot more say in what goes on at the White House than Jane Fucking Hamsher, they dont listen to her they listen to him.

Barack Obama dictates policy and he allowed Grover Fucking Norquist to testify to the Deficit Commission. So I get where he is coming from.

[NJmaverick]

46. I stand by that comparison

[spiritual_gunfighter]

47. I figured you would

I am sure that you know that is one of the reasons no one takes you seriously.

[NJmaverick]

51. You are making quite the impressive list

first you believe you are the only one to dictate what motivates others (you don't let people say what motivates them)

then you went on to say what other people actually see (forget what they actually see, you tell them what they see)


now you are the spokesperson for the every person on DU


Life is pretty interesting when you "live on DU"

[pattmarty]

50. He's scared shitless of Beck, that's why his admin fired Sherrod.......

........AND, mark the words of the "professional left" to see what happens with the "cat food commission". You don't think he will cut SS? We needed an FDR and all we got was a black Bill Clinton.

[Dr.Phool]

63. That's not what he said.

He said they have things in common. You're making a leap, as usual.

[defendandprotect]

68. It's only a problem IF Jane Hamsher signs a petition that Norquist signed ....

It's NOT a problem if Obama seeks a right wingers assistance to dismantle

Social Security and Medicare!!

Same with many other issues -- problem if Bush did it -- no problem if our guy did it!!

[jefferson_dem]

74. And who says Gibbs was wrong about the drug tests?

:crazy:

[flyarm]

85. Me that is who! I have been a card carrying democrat for 40 years..that is who!

call me a druggie and them are fighting words!

I am a grand mother..

And that was the last insult I will be abused with!

Got that? get it!

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[whatchamacallit]

43. Mondo fail (nt)

[Hissyspit]

78. Yes, it's exactly like that!

Good lord. :eyes:

[flyarm]

84. no lockstep , no like you!..that is the meme around here anymore..sad and pathetic! eom

[defendandprotect]

56. She's obviously on the DLC "enemies list" -- along with most other liberal/progressive Dems -- !!

[NJmaverick]

59. .

:tinfoilhat:

[defendandprotect]

65. You disagree the DLC has an "enemies list" --- or that Jane Hamsher is on it???

[flyarm]

86. pretty big list I would say, by the responses all over the internet!!

wonder who there "base " will be in Nov??????????

[jefferson_dem]

72. Funny...

Her positions on virtually all (if not all) of the Democrats' signature domestic policy items line up exactly with those of the teabaggers. How is the end result any different, even if she pretends to be well-intentioned?

[Hissyspit]

76. Because it's not true.

[jefferson_dem]

90. Let's see...

Which (if any) of the "big three" Democratic-led reforms did she support: stimulus, health care, financial regulation?

[flyarm]

87. I would say just the opposite , this White House seems more aligned too the teabaggers!

they are the right wing wet dream!

[tnlefty]

5. Thanks for posting this.

I hope that she's okay as she looks thinner than the last time that I saw her.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

10. Yeah she doesnt look great on this clip

but she was on Dylan Ratigan with Glenn Greenwald today and she looked really great, maybe its the bad lighting.

[defendandprotect]

69. I don't see how that can be Jane Hamsher .. ???

[jotsy]

7. I think she rocks.

First time I saw her was on Cspan, just blew away a seasoned conservative wench on the abortion issue. I became an instant fan and glad she's where she is to keep the political feet, not so much to the fire, but here on the ground with the rest of us. A fact politicians clearly ain't gettin'.

Love to watch her work SGF, thanx.

I rec'd your post.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

9. Thanks for the rec

I love her too, she is one of the smartest liberal bloggers out there, I love Fire Dog Lake and I really love it when she goes head to head against conservatives and fake Dems on TV. Her spot on the Ed Show last year with Lanny Davis is a classic smackdown.

[20score]

21. There should be no one that excuses Gibbs - or anyone else, for that matter - when

they complain about the people who have been right about everything, and looking out for the country as a whole. It's not our side that profits from doing the wrong thing.

If everyone stood for ideals instead of people, the improvements would come like a waterfall.

K&R

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[defendandprotect]

66. Really shocking that they would even be trying . . .

you'd have to be living in total denial!!

[NorthCarolina]

38. Her assessment is, as usual, is spot on

Typical of most truth tellers, she is attacked relentlessly by the damage control crew using silly talking points, and false accusations.

[sallyseven]

49. Maybe Grover will be outed as a damn fool.

People have to know what a jerk he is. Expose him. She just thinks she is smarter than what she is. I have disliked her for long time.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

53. Then I am sure you absolutely hated this then.

Grover Norquist Outlines Recommendations to the Obama Debt Commission
From Jeremy Weltmer on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:21 PM
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On June 30, 2010, Grover G. Norquist testified before the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform as the President of Americans for Tax Reform. He outlined both the reasons why the present debt crisis comes from an overspending problem, not from deficits, why tax rates should not be raised, and several ways to cut spending and foster growth.

Below is his testimony with links to ATR’s proposed solutions:



Why the Problem Is Not Deficits—It Is Spending

Reasons Not to Raise Taxes

Growth: The Only Way to Raise Tax Revenues Over Time

Ideas to Reduce Spending

1. Resurrect the “Byrd Committee.”
2. Give the public five days to read bills before a floor vote.
3. Put every federal transaction and contract online in real time.
4. Term limit appropriators.
5. Sitting Congressmen and Senators should not be able to name buildings or other monuments to themselves, and none should be named for them while they are still living.
6. Block grant education funding and welfare to the states.
7. Freeze the salary and benefit levels of federal employees.
8. Require all eligible federal employees to compete for their job with a private sector bidder.
9. Only hire one new federal employee for every two that retire from government employment.
10. Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act.
11. Reform farm subsidies along the lines of the 1996 “Freedom to Farm” Act.
12. Leave defense cuts on the table.
13. Stop using “emergency” spending loopholes to get around budget rules.
14. Freeze discretionary spending at 2007 levels.
15. Don't Bail Out the Post Office Pension Plan

Ideas to Increase Federal Revenues by Increasing Economic Growth

1. Increase legal immigration.
2. Enact worldwide free trade.
3. Replace tax “depreciation” with full business expensing.
4. Cut marginal tax rates.
5. Make all expiring tax cuts permanent.
6. Move from worldwide to territorial taxation of overseas income.
7. Congress should stay home.
8. Don’t import Europe’s labor laws.
9. Inventory and sell all non-essential government assets.
10. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) should halt its misnamed “Net Neutrality” proceeding


Read more: http://www.atr.org/grover-norquist-outlines-recommendations-obama-debt-a5252##ixzz0wOhbtX2m

The Obama Debt Commission had this wingnut testify and make recommendations. Jane Hamsher is a liberal blooger, Barack Obama is the President.

[flyarm]

88. Crickets ...crickets....

[ellenfl]

58. kick for later. eom

[WillyT]

61. HUGE K & R !!!

:kick:

[Dr.Phool]

64. Big Kick!

[defendandprotect]

67. Something's wrong here ... this can't be Jane Hamsher ....

I was just watching Ed and again this woman was identified as Jane --

but earlier Jane Hamsher was on his show and looked entirely different!!

Help!!

[jefferson_dem]

70. Haha...

Is she still trying to convince folks that she is a real "progressive"?

[nightrain]

75. knr. thanks for posting. Jane is not the enemy. In fact she is one of the most

perceptive and articulate of the bloggers. At first I didn't understand her short alliance with Norquist, but sometimes two different people/groups can join together for a common purpose. It seems that's what happened with Jane and Norquist. I can respect that.

[bertman]

77. HUGE REC. Jane is a national treasure. P.S. where's that petition to fire Rahm?

I want to sign.

[KoKo]

79. Good Comments from Jane! Thanks for Posting!

[theaocp]

80. Roundhouse KICK & hardcore RECOMMEND n/t

[Better Believe It]

82. K & R

[flyarm]

89. K&R thank you for posting, Jane is a wonderful woman and a treasure of this country!

some of us are smart enough to recognize that!

[Whisp]

92. how can I trust someone like this that has a shiteating grin

when the turnout numbers for Dems is as low as she claims?

[RBInMaine]

94. Hamsher is a bony assed twit who slept with Norquist. Piss on her.