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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:39 PM
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Zakaria To Cooper: If Obama Was An Elderly White Gentleman He'd Not Be Characterized In This Manner
Edited on Tue Aug-31-10 11:16 PM by Turborama
 
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Quite a heated exchange ensues between Fareed Zakariia and sympathizers for the Islamophobes David Gergen and Ari Fleischer about the way Muslims are being treated by the Reichwing fear and hatemongers.

I'll add the transcript when it becomes available, if anyone comes across it in the meantime please add.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:47 PM
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1. Zakaria is correct
If Edwards or Dodd had won the election they would not have been treated to this level of bile.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:02 PM
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2. The poll takers should be held to account for
Edited on Tue Aug-31-10 11:03 PM by bbgrunt
the kind of questions they ask and try to pass off as legitimate perceptions. Those questions are meant to divide and cause damage. Recall that no polling organizations dared ask about impeaching b*** and ch****.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:07 PM
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3. Zakaria is correct. n/t
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:32 PM
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5. There never was a question
Of Obama's faith when Rev. Wright was in the picture. We are an occupied country..the powers that really control US want to stir up racial/ religious strife. Remember when Jeff Gannon sat in the WH press corpse for 2 years and nobody picked up on the fact that he wasn't a journalist? Or what his previous profession was? What if that were going on now...wonder what the press would have to say.They certainly had nothing to say about Jeff Gannon.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:15 AM
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12. You are quite right and it's interesting that you brought up Jeff Gannon
When he -- a gay male HOOKER -- showed up as a member of the Washington Press Corps..and NOBODY in our scandal-loving media gave him more than a few minutes of indifferent coverage?....I then KNEW beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the Media was OWNED -- That our "freedom of the press" was now a joke....Any lingering "doubt" I wanted to nurture had no further chance in my mind.

Growing up in the Sixties when the media (with it's Fairness Doctrine, for instance) was a pretty credible institution...It was like.."Man..It's really over"!...When a guy like THIS is in the White House -- reputedly 200 times, only 150 on official "business" -- and NO one gives a "peep" on it?...It's decidedly A Cold Day In HELL...In other words...This ain't your father's America.

To say that the "silence was deafening" was an understatement...Hello?..A Gay male HOOKER with a WEBSITE and NO credible press credentials??...It was like "whaaaaat"??...You're NOT going to jump on this like the pack of wolves we know you are?

It still amazes me. I kept talking to people about it...I asked.."Can you IMAGINE what would happen if this was BILL EFFING Clinton???....The guy would be dead or disowned or fucking EXILED by now...There would have been a Book, a Movie Deal and possibly a Revolution!

The importance of this media "oversight" cannot, in my estimation, be overstated.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:31 PM
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4. Where'd this 'Islamophobes David Gergen and Ari Fleischer ' come from?
Pretty silly, imo.
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garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:36 PM
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6. What's silly? Gergen and Fleischer?
If so, agreed. If calling them Islamophobes - Muslims are their boogeyman.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:53 PM
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10. Foolish to say 'Muslims are their boogeyman,' imo.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:37 PM
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7. The reactions from David Gergen and Ari Fleischer seemed sympathetic to the Islamophobes
who are behind this newly created "controversy". Maybe you didn't see the way they were coming across that way, but I certainly did.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:52 PM
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9. Didn't see it, and hope we can keep from calling names when some disagree.
Gergen wanted recognition of concerns expressed by some victim's friends/families.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:20 AM
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13. You originally quoted me out of context
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 12:27 AM by Turborama
You quoted, "Islamophobes David Gergen and Ari Fleischer".

I wrote, "between Fareed Zakariia and sympathizers for the Islamophobes David Gergen and Ari Fleischer", I did not call them Islamophobes, I called them sympathizers for the Islamophobes.

The only "name calling" I used was Islamophobic "Reichwing fear and hatemongers". If you want me to go into detail about who they are and why they can be rightfully described as fear and hatemongering Islamophobes I can make a list with quotes for you.

Anyway, I'll get the transcript later and point out to you exactly what I meant about the sympathy for the Islamophobes.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:13 AM
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17. I appreciate your explanation, Turbor;
It sounds to me that 'sympathizers for the Islasmophobes David Gergen and Ari Fleischer' refers to Gergen and Fleischer as Islamopobes, to which I object. Maybe I misunderstand.

To my (and our) great distress, there are plenty of Islamophobes and hate mongers around; I don't see Gergen among them, or Fleischer either, and it grieves me when we appear to sweep too broadly, thereby damaging our otherwise sound and powerful points of view.

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garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:44 PM
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8. Smarmy - best word to describe Fleischer and Gergen

Fleischer's caricature of liberal - ah, forget it. This was a waste of time.

:puke: :puke:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 05:39 AM
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15. Agree. nt
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:54 PM
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11. Does this giant chinned asshole not know it's the ''Democratic'' party? nt
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 07:34 AM
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16. it seems that
all in the media are rolling over and letting this one (the Republicans use of the word Democrat as an adjective) become law... I scream at them each time they let it pass without a correction
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 03:30 AM
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14. Man, Fareed Zakariia so, sooo fucking correct!
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 03:43 AM by LaPera
As lying Ari does his usual republican Fox news tap dance - uh, cloud the issue, distort, change the subject, attack, make sure no truth will ever become clear, keeping the status quo is his sole intention (and Ari is rewarded handsomely)....This is indeed how the lying Ari has ALWAYS preformed - smokescreens, lies & attacks!
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:15 AM
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18. Failed Memory
Clinton was accused of treason, rape, grand larceny and a host of other crimes by the right while he was in office.

Continuing to blame criticism on race is failing to see how previous presidents were treated.

I am CERTAINLY not saying that there is NO criticism based on race, just not the majority and it is NOT new.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:57 AM
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19. I don't think Gergen is so bad. I DON'T agree with him. But, he is not a close minded right wing
asshole. He actually has a nuanced opinion. Most right wingers don't.

Fareed, did a great job in defending his position.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:59 AM
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20. who first stirred up this hornets nest?
The country was focused on the economy when this happened. Reptiles are famous for diverting the public's attention to bullshit. All I remember is Sarah Palin writing on her Facebook and it getting media attention:

"Many Americans, myself included, feel it would be an intolerable and tragic mistake to allow such a project sponsored by such an individual to go forward on such hallowed ground."

Don't want to accuse her if she just got on the bandwagon but I would really like to know who started this fake outrage that stirred up feelings that haven't been reconciled yet to the rest of America? Fareed is really good. Calm and decisive...and..right.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:01 AM
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21. Im liking this Zakaria guy
Simple common sense rather than heated rhetoric and talking points.
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lunasun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 10:50 AM
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22.  If Obama Was An Elderly White Gentleman He'd Not Be Characterized In This Manner
Duh!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:11 PM
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23. Kick,kick,kick &recommended!
:kick:
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