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Weird Liberal Head Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:31 PM
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Weird Liberal Head Show #151: 2010- Let's Not Blow It!
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 05:08 PM by Weird Liberal Head
 
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Posted on YouTube: September 03, 2010
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Posted on DU: September 03, 2010
By DU Member: Weird Liberal Head
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In this video, I discuss Senate and gubernatorial seats we can pick up if we try, and I show that a conservative does in fact think bazookas are covered by the 2nd Amendment.
Thank you for watching! If you want, I can send you a map of senate/gubernatorial elections we should focus on.
Here's the conservative-bazooka-lover quote on my last video:

"Bazookas ARE covered by the 2nd amendment.
Your brother SHOULD be allowed to have swords. Legally. Whether parents allow it is up to them.
If he can afford a tank. Seems impractical and not very cost effective though. And private property can not allow guns or weapons on their site."

Note: Shoot, I can't make a map. But if you want, give me a comment if you want to know what Senate/gubernatorial seats we can pick up.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:55 PM
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1. Nice to see you learned anything last time you posted this sort of question.
You can own a bazooka. You can own a tank. (The DOT may require you to shod the tread with rubber or non-destructive to the roadway material)

It's all a matter of the correct permits and background checks. Any Other Weapon (AOW) and Destructive Devices (Grenades, RPG's, Mortar rounds, Bazooka rounds) are regulated and controlled by BATFE administered rules, and federal and state law.

Some states do prohibit them.

But yes, you do have the right to own a bazooka. You do have the right to swords, etc.

You do not have the right to BRANDISH either, except in certain circumstances, such as lawful self defense.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:00 PM
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2. Also, don't misrepresent what Hawking actually said.
He is stating that no god is required for the universe to exist. Quite another thing from 'god didn't create the universe'. He is entirely too intelligent to make such an obvious mistake.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:04 PM
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3. That is an interesting distinction
If what Hawking stated was that no god was required for the universe to exist as opposed to "God didn't create the Universe", wouldn't that mean that he is stating that nobody really knows that God created the Universe, so nobody can really that say with absolute certainty, right? Seems like a fair distinction from a scientific point of view.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:20 PM
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4. Exactly. Science can show a few things though.
In this case, apparently, that an omnipotent, supernatural, omniscient being isn't required to 'start' the universe's existence.

It cannot prove that an omnipotent, omniscient, supernatural being that does not wish to be directly percieved, exists.
It also cannot prove than an omniscient, omnipotent being that isn't making its presence known, doesn't exist.


Really, if god won't step up and take credit, and science can show how the universe, and all it contains can come into being without any supernatural assistance, then I can fall back on my personal estimate of probability, and judge that god likely does not exist.

But even though I am 100% an Atheist, I will not say "God does not exist" because I cannot prove it. I will say, "I do not believe god exists" or "I do not perceive any evidence that anything supernatural exists". I won't make a positive statement that X does not exist, when I cannot test or prove that statement. Even if I judge the odds north of one in one quadrillion against, I am still honestly allowing the possibility of the existence of a supernatural being, even if my confidence is infinitesmally low.

And Hawking is far, far smarter than I will ever be.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 11:26 AM
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5. You have a very logical way of looking at things.
Edited on Sat Sep-04-10 11:28 AM by TheEuclideanOne
I am not an atheist myself, but not very religious. You clearly have a very logical way of viewing things. I was never able to really "believe" unless somebody could make a logical argument. A friend of mind did make a good argument to me years ago regarding microscopic creatures living in a puddle. They might not know anything about me being a "higher power" since I live outside of the world of their puddle and could not comprehend me due to their nature. Yet, I do exists even if they do not believe I do.

Another friend of mine painted more of a pessimisstic view of our importance in the universe. Imagine if you finished a chemistry experiment and throw out a glass of liquid that was the result of a failed experiment. Maybe God is the chemist and the earth is that glass of liquid. :)



I am definitely a skeptic, but have an open mind to things. It's funny, when I watch shows like "Ghost Hunters" and watch people assume that there is a ghost when they hear even the slightest sound, I just roll my eyes. For me to believe in ghosts (or religion), for example, I need real proof. Never have been to big on faith. If they had an episode where somebody was killed in a beheadig, I would need to see a head floating through the air, dripping with blood to acknowledge that the ghost has returned. On a side note, I don't even think that a floating head would be that scary. If one came toward you in your house, you could simply lock the door or catch it in a garbage bag. Scary or not, it would at least be evidence that I can see (or special effects).

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