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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 01:10 PM
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"You Turn On The Television & The Radio & You Basically Witness An Onslaught Against Islam"
Edited on Sun Sep-12-10 01:40 PM by Turborama
 
Run time: 03:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRbvmUaiFsw
 
Posted on YouTube: September 11, 2010
By YouTube Member: AlJazeeraEnglish
Views on YouTube: 3804
 
Posted on DU: September 12, 2010
By DU Member: Turborama
Views on DU: 1439
 
This has been going on for months...


NYT On The Fear & Hatred Not Limited To NYC: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/08/us/08mosque.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&src=igw">"Mosque Projects Across America Meet Opposition"



This relentless propaganda "assault on Islam" is being http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8976871#9031651">broadcast globally live 24/7 by Faux, too.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 02:12 PM
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1. Keep stirring the hate. :( n/t
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 03:00 PM
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3. Was that aimed at me? n/t
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 03:02 PM
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4. Oh, no! I meant the media. Sorry!
:blush:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 03:13 PM
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6. That's OK, I was a bit confused
'cause I thought it was unlikely to be and just wanted to make sure.


:hug:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 06:59 PM
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8. That's exactly what is happening and it does not bode well for our future.
By electing a black president, we proved that we were a country that was beyond race. But now this... People must be pretty insecure if they have to find someone to hate. ;(
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 03:51 AM
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15. There was another country in the 1920s that had an economic meltdown and who picked on scapegoats

Obama was also asked why, nine years after the 9/11 attacks, suspicion towards Muslim is once again on the rise. The president attributed the sentiment, in part, to the difficult economic times in the United States.

"I think that at a time when the country is anxious generally, and going through a tough time then fears can surface, suspicions, divisions can surface in a society. So I think that plays a role in that."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4535729


"fears can surface, suspicions, divisions can surface in a society"

This sounded like a warning from history.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 08:29 AM
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17. Perfect analogy and very, very scary.
And I've wondered the same thing aloud in recent days. Why now? It's been nine years and suddenly all these idiots are worried about Muslims? It makes no sense. And we already know that they are very poor students of history... Their leader was George Bush*. :dunce: x(
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 02:26 PM
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 03:08 PM
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5. This ugly phenomenon must be brought out into the sunlight
and closely examined; To prove religious zealotry is the most dangerous cancer that can infect any country or civilization;

A cancer of hate that will lead inevitably, to misery, to war and ultimately to authoritarianism synonymous with fascism; As it has throughout history and the many civilizations that have fallen from it.
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Aristophrenia Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 06:45 PM
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7. What is important to consider is the paradigm shift -
you consider the racial hatred, bigotry which was so roundly condemned, fought and beaten over the past century
to be wrong, to be a universal truth. This is no longer the case - it is ok to be a racist, a bigot, and full of hate -
it is not merely ok - it is preferable.

The old adage of the left that we should 'expose' these people is just laughable - it is the perfect response to those
who hate - you will do nothing.

The history of humanity can only be seen in one way - a long and perverse struggle of incredible violence as the oppressed
fought and struggled for equality and freedom. This entire history of incredible sacrifice has been obliterated in less
than a generation as their violent struggle was usurped by peace loving hippies of the Baby Boomers who insist that
the only means to confront oppression is the legitimised process of democracy and peaceful resistance.

An absolute joke - what pains me the most is the profound oppression the people who have gone before us endured, the incredible
sacrifice and loss they suffered only to be spat on by modern day sycophantic utopian's - that their way, the way that actually brought about the change,
the way that actually made the sacrifice, the way of the ones who actually endured the pain is wrong - and in so enacting this pusillanimous kow-towing
virulent hatred through a deferment to higher ideals are actually undermining all the sacrifices these people made - a double slap in the face.

Lets expose these people - WHAT THE FCK - they are on TV being broadcast all over the world - what else do you want ?
Maybe you should get off your friggen keyboard go down there and CONFRONT THEM.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 11:58 PM
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14. What a bunch of simpleton, cornpone nonsense and unadulterated claptrap.
Edited on Mon Sep-13-10 12:29 AM by ooglymoogly
Making herculean and monumental conclusions and pronouncements on some realities that do not extrapolate to your silly conclusions; That do indeed have an unusual influence on the history of this country. That generation was put down by pure fascism, A fascism beginning with the shooting of 13 student in 13 seconds of a barrage of live bullets into a crowd, at Kent state.

The machinations of the right are always shrouded in religious platitudes, same as it has always been when the right becomes threatened and they were threatened by those called "hippies" as they are always threatened by any large group of democrats; Or at least they pretended to be.

What did influence the history of this country toward the present circumstances?

No. 1; The very suspicious assassination of a wildly popular president to those on the left; Who was in process of a shakeup of both the CeyeA and the Fd Re$erve; And the convenient pardon of Nixon.

Hippies themselves were the growth pains of a free and prosperous society and incidentally happened all over the civilized world; Here, those who could not fathom the assassination of a siting president, JFK, whom they loved and consequently realized they could no longer trust the government of their country.

They rose during the cooldown from the aftermath of that world damaging event, during the LBJ presidency; The strange circumstance of that assassination still in question today.

After that it was a downward spiral for this country only slightly interrupted by the impeachment of RN.

The way the neocons and the right became once again emboldened by that assassination was finally realized with the election of RN and RR who like you blamed it all on the hippies and who came down hard on the free thinkers who formed much of the culture, ideas, sexual boundaries, fashion, music, and much more, we live with today; Including cyberworld, and who, granted, took their freedoms and liberties before the assassination, for granted.

The hippies were no more than a sideshow to events in History, no matter how much the right blames them for their own treachery.

Their mistrust came into focus and reality with the Kent state Massacre, when 13 students where shot in 13 seconds of massive shooting into the crowd of protesters; Four shot dead, one paralyzed, 9 seriously wounded; Demoralizing the country; Young folks shot dead by Ohio National guard Nazi's; The precursor to the impeachment of RN.

Further; Hippies were not just in the US but all over Europe and other parts of the world and they do not blame any of their shortcomings or present problems, conveniently, on hippies.

To blame it all on the hippies as did Nixon and RR, thereby indemnifying their calumnies, to start the debilitating drug wars, declaring war on its own people;

To further a not too subtle agenda with such claptrap, is the height of ignorance and flat out fabrication and distortion of the facts and their meaning.

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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 10:57 PM
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13. You make a good point, America's MSM is not doing a good job of explaining what's really going on
Edited on Sun Sep-12-10 10:58 PM by Turborama
On a macro as well as micro scale.

I just watched Al Jazeera English's "Empire" and they had a special on just this topic. It was fascinating and a must watch, Chris Hedges was one of the guests.

Details of the show: http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/empire/2010/09/2010912133054252673.html

It can be watched online for free here: http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

This special episode of Empire airs from Sunday, September 12, at the following times GMT: Sunday: 1900; Monday: 1400; Tuesday: 0600; Wednesday: 0700.

I'll post it here when it's uploaded. It contains the best explanations of what's going on I've seen so far.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 07:28 PM
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9. This country has changed
Edited on Sun Sep-12-10 07:30 PM by AsahinaKimi
Since I have grown up, and its not very pretty, the face of hatred, racism, bigotry and that there is a whole network for people WHO SAY ITS "okay" to be this way. The guy in this video is a Muslim, yet he's also an American, a New York City firefighter and a UNITED STATES MARINE.

Yet, there are some people would spit in his face, for his faith.

WHO THE HELL DO THEY THINK THEY ARE? :grr:
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Aristophrenia Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 07:59 PM
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10. The same people who
have been acting this way for centuries - it is an attitude not a person.
These people do not agree that difference should be tolerated, nor that differences should be settled calmly, with patience and understanding -
thats why deffering to these methods will never ever work and will only allow them to flourish.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 02:19 PM
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21. The two wars launced after 9/11 released the bigots from having
to be careful of how they spoke about minorities. I watched it happen on rightwing boards. They were unable to use hateful language directed at blacks or other minorities, until they were given permission by this government when an 'other' was found to vent all the hatred on and to feel free to target with epethets and other abhorrent ways, including in some instances, violence.

'Ragheads', 'camel jockies' etc were freely tossed around, especially after U.S. Generals were known to be referring to them that way.

'Kill all ragheads' was common to see on rightwing boards and as Muslims were rounded up right after 9/11, just for being Muslim in many instances, the right cheered.

The media helped by high-lighting the most scary-looking people instilling fear and loathing in the minds of the cowards and easily influenced.

I remember rightwings telling me that for my trouble defending 'ragheads' they would kill me as soon as look at me'. There was no stopping them. It was as though they had been in a prison for a long time, now they were released to engage in the expression of all that hate they had bottled up inside them.

I imagine the same thing happened to the Jabanese during another war.

The U.S. Government and its MIC are responsible. We have to have an enemy and if that means American citizens become fallout it doesn't matter to them.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 03:45 PM
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22. "Kick their ass! Take their gas!"
This aging mind clearly recalls

O.peration
I.raqi
L.iberation

until the in-your-face created a slight stir.
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James48 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 08:07 PM
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11. Why Du is important to me...
DU reminds me that there are people in this nation who DON'T express ignorance, and who aren't like all those idiots who can't tell the difference between an American Muslim, and a terrorist.

thank you DU'ers.

In a sea of ignorance and inhumanity- DU'ers are my lifeboat of sanity.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 08:07 PM
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12. kick and recommend!!
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 06:32 AM
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16. The Guardian: Muslims in America increasingly alienated as hatred grows in Bible belt
On the anniversary of 9/11, Chris McGreal reports from the Tennessee town where Muslims have lived in harmony with Christians for decades – but where they now feel under threat



Safaa Fathy was as surprised to discover that she is at the heart of a plot against America as she was to hear that her small Tennessee town is a focus of hate in the Muslim world.

The diminutive fifty-something physiotherapist, who has lived in Murfreesboro for most of her adult life, happens to be on the board of her town's Islamic centre. Now she finds herself accused of being a front for Islamic Jihad, of planning to impose sharia law on her neighbours, and of threatening the very existence of Christianity in Tennessee.

"There is something around the whole United States, something is different. I was here since 1982. I have three kids here and I never had any trouble. My kids, they go to the girl scouts, they play basketball, they did all the normal activities. It just started this year. It's strange, because after 9/11 there was no problem," said Fathy, who was born in Egypt. "In the past in America other people were the target. We are the target now. We have trouble in California, we have trouble in New York, we have trouble in Florida. It's a shame because Murfreesboro is a very nice town to live in."

As the US prepares to mark the ninth anniversary of the al-Qaida assault on New York and the Pentagon, the country's Muslims say they are enduring a wave of hostility and suspicion from some of their fellow Americans that they rarely encountered in the years immediately following the 9/11 attacks.

Full article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/10/us-muslims-america-alienated-hatred
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 10:43 AM
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19. Interesting point: it's worse now than after 911... n/t
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 10:26 AM
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18. K&R n/t
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:46 PM
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20. So let's get this correct.
After the attack on the Twin Towers and the anti-Muslim wave that followed, Bush at that time made several speeches where he commented on the fact that the Muslims being attacked were fellow Americans and the attack and rhetoric against them was uncalled for.

Now all Obama said is the Muslims have a right to build the mosque where the want and all hell breaks loose. He is accused of everything under the sun. What's the difference between the statements made by Bush and Obama. The only thing that IS different is Bush was a republican, and you know how that is, they can say anything they want and the press, the right wing spews such as Rush, Beck and fox eat it up. But the reason Obama can't say anything about a Muslim deserving equal treatment the right wing hate spewers are ready to start a damn war. Get the picture...republicans no matter what they say or do are approved by the republicans and the republican press, but a Democrat can't make a sensible statement, cause the right wing haters and the right wing press go absolutely ape.
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