MRN: CODE PINK Soils Their Sheets

[joebaur42]

Run time: 02:49 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_aUdJPy_KQ   Posted on YouTube: November 04, 2010 By YouTube Member: MildlyRelevant Views on YouTube: 16   Posted on DU: November 04, 2010 By DU Member: joebaur42 Views on DU: 1003

 
Thursday, November 4th, 2010. Code Pink says they aren't insane and John Boehner's selective hearing.

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[sce56]

1. Code pink is Courageous! Not crazy That line "Crazy" belongs to

Sarah Palin, Christine O'Donnell, Michell Bachman etc, etc.

[joebaur42]

2. To each their own...

But I just don't think giving Fox News b-roll for their "liberals are nuts" segments is all that courageous. Their message gets lost in the theater of how they present their beliefs.

[ThirdChoice]

3. I agree

Code Pink is theatrical, and Teabaggers are bats&^t crazy, there is a difference.

Plus, who else is out there trying to change this democracy destroying US Chamber? Most people are watching "True Blood" or some other TV show, or fiddling with the new App on their iPhone, and not even caring about this.

When you look at it that way...who is really crazy? The people who care and try to change it? or the people who just don't care and don't even try to stop or change it?

[joebaur42]

4. Changing...

Code Pink and the Tea Party have different tactics, but I believe as a whole they're each just as alienating. (To be fair, the Tea Party is much larger than Code Pink).

The Tea Party runs on a very Glenn Beck or the highway ideology. I don't accept the "they're all racist" generalization, but I believe as a whole it's a very alienating movement.

You make a fair point regarding the laziness of everyone else, but I don't think people walking by Code Pink during one of their protests is going to think to themselves, "Gee, how do I get on board!?" Most people would see their theatrics as "weird" and keep walking, which I think hurts the cause.

They use the same excuse of, "Who's crazy? We few who try to change things, or those who do nothing?" That excuse only works so long for me, since their means for changing things is simply and utterly bizarre.

I'd rather see a documentary on why we need campaign finance reform.

[ThirdChoice]

5. You made some good points

We need a way for everyday people to be interested and engaged and willing to realize you have to really get involved to change the world into what you want it to be. The right formed the Heritage Foundation, AEI, etc, and are rolling up their sleeves and shaping the world they want to be. You can't just walk into a booth every 2 to 4 years and expect the world to change into what you want it to be. You need to get in the ditches and get dirty, and I think Code Pink has a place in all that.

We need Code Pink, and we need organizations for regular people to join and promote Progressive values. There is room for all of it.

[joebaur42]

6. My understanding is that...

Code Pink's main objectives include ending the wars, campaign finance reform, and rainbows. That's great! But they're best known for covering their hands in red and trying to arrest Republicans. They just look nuts to most people when they run on stage and try to arrest Karl Rove.

The best example I can think of is when an athlete is playing a sport for their high school, the coach always harps on "You're representing this school and your community." So when you act like a dick, it reflects badly on the community, even if the community is on Forbes' top 100 best suburbs.

In my opinion, Code Pink reflects badly on the Progressive community.

I wholeheartedly agree that you can't just walk into an election booth every 2 to 4 years and expect change, but I also understand that it's the most some people can offer.

[mstinamotorcity]

7. Code Pink may be a little over

the top,but I like their persistence and drive. The theater stuff..well. Anyway I think if you want people to know what you believe, you must show and tell. They are willing to go to whatever extreme to do both. The only reason we say they are crazy is because of the way they present themselves. But we are talking about them and we know they exist. So some of what they are doing is getting across. Maybe they understand people like themselves.

After the November 2, 2010 Mid-Term elections I don't under estimate anything.And getting myself ready for when we must stand and fight for what we believe in no matter if its with the truth or sweat.

[joebaur42]

8. I'm fine with "show and tell"

It was my favorite subject in elementary school!

I just feel their message, albeit quite admirable in some respects, gets lost in their theater. I don't think we talk about them because of their "anti-war" message, I think we talk about them because of their antics. Hell, that's why I did yesterday's afternoon edition of Mildly Relevant News on them. And the only time I see them on TV is when they're getting arrested for trying to arrest Karl Rove. Fox News uses them to make all liberals (nevermind just progressives) look crazy.

Call me old fashioned (even though I'm only 24), but I would prefer a well written brochure and people kindly knocking on doors to explain why we need campaign finance reform. Not people dancing in fake-blood soaked sheets.

[mstinamotorcity]

11. You may think it makes Liberals look crazy

But as I stated some of what they are doing does get through. And I don't find them extreme. If they are compard to anything that the repugs are doing or have done. GO CODE PINK!!!!!

[joebaur42]

12. Again, to each their own...

But I haven't seen anything positive they've done get through. If you search "Code Pink" on YouTube, the first video is "Code Pink calls marines war criminals." Whenever they're brought up in conversation, it's about them trying to arrest someone, shoving red hands in someone's face, or something along those lines. I'm not saying anything they've done is as bad as anything that has been done as a form of protest on the Right. I just think they make progressive values easily mockable when they combine it with their theatrics.

I doubt they changed anyone's mind by trying to arrest Karl Rove or by rolling around on the ground, dressed as vampires.

[mstinamotorcity]

13. Just simulating arresting Karl Rove

makes me happy!!!! I eat,sleep,and dream of that three hairs on the swelled head racist,evil thinking Bitch going to JAIL!!!!!!And it reminds me to keep the heat on that Sleazy piece of shit!!!!!

[Scruffy1]

9. reading some of the comments here

makes it pretty clear that liberalism has its limits and will never get it. Most of the people are so afraid of being seen as being to extreme that you reflexively cave into anything. Having met and had long conversations with many code pinker I can say the only people that are crazy are the ones afraid to be seen as too extreme.
We let nazis walk our street, start endless wars and a bunch of candy ass bloggers are worried about extreme tactics? Are you ever going to figure out that you are at war for your very survival?

[joebaur42]

10. Speaking of extreme...

"Are you ever going to figure out that you are at war for your very survival" is some pretty extreme rhetoric. That's like a Tea Partier saying they'll have their gun on them when Obama comes knocking to take it away!

Again, I said I admire their anti-war stance. I simply believe there are better, less alienating/mockable ways of presenting anti-war beliefs.

Being against one form of protest doesn't make me a fan of the other, i.e. Nazis walking the streets.

How many comments did it take before "Nazi" entered the conversation? Oh, Godwin. You never fail!

[ThirdChoice]

14. This extremism (mostly on the right)

is why Stewart held his Rally. The problem I see with anti-war protesters is they want peace in the world next week, which is completely impossible and totally unrealistic. I want peace, but I realize it will take decades for it to come to be. At our current state of social development, we are still a violent and warlike species. One day we will have no wars, but it will not be next week, no matter how we protest.

Accepting some war today as unfortunately necessary, but ardently supporting peace one day is not hypocritical. There is a difference between driving the Nazis out of Paris and the illegal and immoral wars like the Vietnam War and the Iraq War. I for one believe one has a right to defend oneself. The trick is not letting politicians start unnecessary wars.

Let me ask everyone: Did anyone support standing idly by during the Bosnian War while citizens were being raped, tortured and slaughtered?