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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:44 PM
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MSNBC w/ Cenk: Rep. Grayson On Dem Election Losses, Obama Tax Cut Cave
 
Run time: 07:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZf_fAr2k0I
 
Posted on YouTube: November 04, 2010
By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks
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Posted on DU: November 05, 2010
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Summary: Cenk Uygur (host of The Young Turks) talks to Congressman Alan Grayson on MSNBC Live about why Democrats had big losses in the 2010 midterm elections and more.

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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:02 PM
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1. Great video, Thanks!
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Winston Wolf Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:08 PM
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2. Kicked...
...and recommended.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:10 PM
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3. bullies only keep picking on people who will not fight back nt
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:38 PM
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31. Of all the demws I've seen and heard this is the man I would support for President.Balls and Brains
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:40 PM
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32. The nation also delivered a mandate in '08 which Boehner ignored and obstructed
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:42 PM
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33. I hope the voters pay attention to how lilttle these repubs deliver for them.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:50 PM
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34. Some bullies are just sadistic and pick on everyone They think they can beat
This new round of repubs will do exactly as they are told by their corporate lobbyists who will also write their bills for them. It's why Tea Party people never talk about outsourcing, regulating bankers or wall street and deny global climate change but claim to be grass roots trying to improve the lot of the common man. Hypocrisy has the smell of tea
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countrydad58 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 07:36 PM
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35. Yes . Allan Run!
Please run! I have had a Gut full of cowards or collaborators. Dont know which,maybe a little bit of both!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:14 PM
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4. Thanks.
The Second Coming William Butler Yeats


TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

http://www.online-literature.com/yeats/780/
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:20 PM
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23. Grayson is such a decent man
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 03:26 PM by florida08
and was in a hard red area to begin with. He's right though..liberals just didn't show up and indy's just gave up and voted the other side. You can't spend gazillions on Wall Street and to the banksters and give the finger to the ones they hurt irrevocably. Homes, jobs? Are you kidding me Obama? You hurt the people that voted for you as much as the other side did by forcing thru health care. If you don't have a job or place to live you can't pay for any kind of coverage. Independents saw this and said hell if I can't get help at least I can stop the waste going to bailouts.
(that's their thinking anyway) Half of the blue dog dems got axed. That tells you right there. Centrism leaning right DOES NOT WORK for progressives.

Btw..I heard on Hartmann today that Obama has 2 Wal-Mart execs on Air Force 1 along with a lot of other businessmen.
I'm done with Obama unless he shows something in the next year


oops..sorry..hit wrong tab..was meant for the original post.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:30 PM
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24. Thank you for posting the poem!
:thumbsup:
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:20 PM
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5. A lot of dems.....
got in (IMO) because of the hate the country had for Bush,
Unfortunately Fox news and rush limbaugh did their best to
fuck up everything Obama is trying to do.
Some of my Rep friends voted for Obama because of Bush,
But they still pay homage to fox and rush.
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suzanner Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:22 PM
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6. Grayson is one of the really great men in DC.
I made a contribution even tho I'm in MN. Many of the younger people where I work did not vote because they felt too ignorant on local candidates. Some don't have a PC at home to get information or a sample ballot. Some felt that Republicans run everything anyway so why bother, and some voted independent like they think that's the neutral position. Dems are not allowed to talk politics openly at work, however, Repugs can now resume the bullying and snarkiness of the bush years.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:44 PM
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17. thanks. i supported grayson as well even though he was not my
rep. i hope he runs again.

btw, i also donated to tarryl clark. too bad about THAT outcome. :banghead:

ellen fl
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:23 PM
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7. Grayson is so right.
If you keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result, you're crazy.

That's a paraphrase of Albert Einstein.

I hope Grayson finds a place in American life where he can continue speaking out and doing good.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:26 PM
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8. Grayson is my favorite politician...I don't care if he lost
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:21 PM
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29. I'd hate to be your least favorite politician...
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:27 PM
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9. As usual
Grayson is right and the Democratic leadership is wrong. There is no longer a center to hold.
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:27 PM
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10. Where the Hell was Obama
Grayson fought hard to help Obama and how much effort did Obama exert to return that favor.

I am so sorry Grayson lost. Hopefully the Dims wake up by 2012, if they do and they show they are willing to fight the good fight, Grayson will run again.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:21 PM
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30. Dims?
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:38 PM
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11. K&R & Thanks for posting. Here's the clip on Grayson's YouTube account...
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 10:57 PM by Turborama
Please click this one (and make a comment) as well to help his view count go up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VzjrA9iabU
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:19 PM
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27. I've spent so time watching the ads run by Grayson and Webster
for this race and I can see why he lost. Webster had the support of the local station WESH 2 nbc and Webster ran a warm and fuzzy campaign to the locals who obviously needed to be comforted. After watching those ads and watching the campaign against Grayson I would have felt a leaning to Webster. If you get a chance see what Grayson was up against.
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HDPaulG Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:06 AM
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12. No
No to Obama in 2012. Period. Great charisma...Charm ends there. Maybe what is said about a father being absent during childhood is apparent with Barrack...Charismatic...YES!!! Democratic principled leader...FAIL!
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countrydad58 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 07:41 PM
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36. He is a total Failure!
I voted for the man with hope & optimism after the Bush Junta,now I cant bear to hear or see his face!
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:08 AM
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13. Just tuned into TopVlog. Thanks for turning me on to that!
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:14 AM
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14. Some people on this board will see this video
and somehow, amazingly come to the conclusion that Grayson was not indicting Obama and Reid and the Democratic strategy but instead was blaming the disillusioned Dem voters.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:48 AM
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15. Fla lost a great rep..and so did we..dummies..nt
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:02 AM
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16. K&R!
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Stellar Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:28 PM
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18. Keith Olbermann Suspended!
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:39 PM
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19. Jesus Christ on a hitch. Keith will not be silenced for long. CNN? nt
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Thav Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:57 PM
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20. Grayson 2012
For President.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:06 PM
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21. G*d D*MN I already miss him so much
I'm furious with those fucking appeasers in the Democratic Congressional caucus. It's because of their slap-dog attitude toward the Repukes, we've lost an incredibly strong, smart, outspoken, REAL Democrat in the House.

Unfuckingbelievable.
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:59 PM
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22. K&R nt
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:32 PM
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25. Comrpomised too much? ~~on the youtube video~~
Spelled too little. sigh.....
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:45 PM
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26. I appreciate you, Rep. Grayson, but here is a clue for *you*, also...
You say...

"What Democrats want is someone who accomplishes good things for constituents."

Then you list these things:

"progress on employment free choice act"
"progress on immigration"
"progress on civil rights"
"progress on women's rights"

What I have to ask you, Rep. Grayson, are NONE of your constituents poor?

While I have cheered your words for the last year and a half, I have finally wearied of you never mentioning poverty..... only the middleclass.

So, I ask you again.... are NONE of your constituents poor?

Did you not need also the votes of poor people?

Do you NOT understand that many "progressives" listen to your words and take a cue from you what is important? When you consistently leave out poverty, so do your followers.

SHAME.
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countrydad58 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 07:45 PM
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37. True.
We need a economic populist,or the poor will be in Dickison poverty. Bring on the poor houses. Elitist Bastards!
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:52 PM
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28. Why we lost
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 05:53 PM by AlbertCat
Basically, it only matters to most Americans when it effects them directly and personally.

People made $$$$ under Clinton and he was re-elected. Then Gore won too... but the Supremes remedied that! Bush came in with a huge surplus. People did well! 9-11 and 2 wars didn't even kill Bush because at home we were still pretending we weren't at war and we were invincible. But near the end of Bush's second term, the fantasy couldn't hold and the bottom fell out....right at the end. NOW it is affecting people at home (though we're still pretending at home we are not at war). Obama comes in just as the average person is feeling the pinch.... the pinch enabled by Bush. So the Repugs blame nice guy Obama for it all and it (finally) sinks in to the average guy because he's either not working, or is working for less... and it's "all Obama's fault". The Dems are in charge, but cower whenever the Repugs shout. Now that things have fallen apart for the common man in the street, they've brought in the ones who promise to fix it all. After all, it wasn't this way during Bush's term, right?

But here's the rub.... now that the average guy is feeling the pinch, the Repugs MUST deliver or we're screwed even more! You know as well as I the Repugs can't. But they can STILL blame it on the Prez.

I predict we lose the White House too in 2012. and end up with an all Repug gov again. But I don't think the bubble can be blown up again. America will have to hit rock bottom, like in the 30's, before they "get it" and vote Dem.

The wild card here is the Teabaggers. Personally I think they will hasten the march toward the bottom because they don't think but exist on childish fairy tales (like religion) and this may work in the Dems' favor.

But we're still gonna have to hit rock bottom before the average, unthinking, selfish American gets even a small clue.

The 1st thing Obama should do, since he's doomed already, is start acting like we are at war and in a DEPRESSION! Rationing, lots of pics of the troops coming home (in boxes) and lots of talk of war and bread lines. Of course, now you have to get the MSM to tell folks about these things. Good luck with that!
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 07:55 PM
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38. Here's what I wish someone would say: People want strong leaders
even if they don't necessarily agree with them 100% of the time, even above other virtues like intelligence, they want strong leaders.

And instead of trying to convince us how much better everything is now because of the laws he passed, Obama should've campaigned for the Dems on plans for the future to improve the economy and create jobs. Even though their plan for doing so was completely ridiculous (cutting taxes, wrong again, Bob) they at least claimed to have a plan.

And how the hell did we let the Republicans pin the bailout on the Democrats? Maybe the Obama admin, instead of leaving the bailouts as they were under Bush, a big handout with no accountability, should have actually restructured them, made them transparent, made sure they went toward job creation, and turned them into something positive. You want to push the bailouts on us, fine, we'll take them, but we'll turn it into something good. But no, they didn't do that, of course.

K&R
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 08:42 PM
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39. C'mon Alan, you were bragging you were 13 points ahead.You caricatured yourself and your ad was DUMB
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 08:43 PM by RBInMaine
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The Uncola Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:35 PM
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40. Sorry to not have seen this soon enough to rec it.
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