Bill Maher and Michael Moore - November 12, 2010

[ShamelessHussy]

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Bill Maher and Michael Moore discussing President Barack Obama and the recent Midterm elections.

[perimedik]

1. youth

As much as I do not like Moore or Maher, the video does make a point. The youth demographic he talks about are lazy and will not get off their buts to get out an vote.
Most will tweet and FB all day long to follow the election however not physically take the time out of their day to exercise their rights.

[rurallib]

2. I am curious as to why you do not like Moore or Maher

[snappyturtle]

3. I don't think they're lazy...they, as Moore, said, put Obama

over the top in 2008. I think this election they were making a statement...they couldn't vote for the ones who have ignored them (Dems) and wouldn't vote repub. I believe it's just that simple. imho

[rocks911]

8. Right you are snappyturtle

How can anybody be inspired to vote when the choices are right wing and extreme right wing.

[GarH]

15. re not voting

I consider myself a progressive Democrat and Obama has not been as liberal or progressive as I wanted. I was very disappointed in his cabinet selections. That said how in the world can you not vote and allow the wing-nuts of the extreme right to take over the House?

[midnight]

20. This is a very important issue that can't be ignored.

[tiredtoo]

6. I like Moore and Maher

They are both a glimmer of hope for us.

[molly77]

17. perimedik

Maybe the youth were disappointed in the democratic WH, Senate and House. Too much compromising. I do not blame Obama. It is the system. Corrupt to the core. From the SC right down to our local police stations.

I still like Obama. ...just think his hands are tied.

[slay]

21. Why you come on here hatin huh?

i'm just sayin.. :shrug:

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[MrMickeysMom]

4. The statistic confirms my observation locally...

Personally, you don't have to like the messengers here. It's not about that.

It IS about our future, and it ain't looking so good when 23 million becomes 9 million. It DOES say more about Obama and his promises (WHAT promises, my husband reminds me... he's acting exactly as he would).

But, he sent the wrong message on, "YES, we CAN", because it means that we does not include our future, it only includes our present, which is fouled up beyond belief.

Thank you, Michael Moore.

[The Wizard]

5. "He completely ignored them, forgot about them....."

That's the DLC strategy. In a word, failure.
The idea that they have no where else to go is a false choice. They have a place to stay, and that's home on election day. Rahm Emanuel is an idiot.

[onlyadream]

7. I think the 20-somethings usually only vote for

presidential elections. I know this was true for me as well as other people I knew. At that stage in life, many don't realize how important it is to get the right people in congress.

[JJW]

9. With exception

I take exception to Moore pretending the election had anything to do with skin color.

If you do as Obama did, appointing/hiring Wall St failures (Summers, Bernanke, Geithner), it doesn't matter if you are red, white and blue, you'll still get your butt kicked.

[whathehell]

10. I would have to agree with that...

Welcome to DU.

[digidigido]

19. You can take exception, but you'd be a fool to do it

Moore is right, the point he's making is Obama never had the white over 29 vote. They didn't want him then
and they don't want him now. He could have been FDR and they wouldn't have wanted him, and the reason
is race. We thought we were a better nation when he won, but the sad truth is we aren't

[Enthusiast]

23. He wasn't pretending.

It did have a lot to do with skin color. Is there any possible way to consider McCain/Palin a better choice than Obama/Biden? There is no possible way.

Moore said, The only "white" demographic Obama won was that of young voters. That simply cannot be a coincidence. It is a built-in racial bias in older Americans. I'm white, I voted for Obama but I suffer from the bias. I happen to recognize it, most don't. It is in our veins.

[defendandprotect]

11. K&R --- will watch later --

[TwentyFive]

12. Youth are the smartest members of the electorate - that's why they didn't vote.

The youth see Obama for what he is...just another corporate backed politician who talks out of both sides of his mouth. Obama will support any law or bill you like...but it must be approved through corporate first. Congress is pretty much the same way. Young voters are smart enough to know that when politicians are taking millions from corporate interests...that those politicians are bought and paid for.

They may want to see the Democrats win, but they're not going to waste their time voting for the Senator from Exxon Mobil or GM. Give youth voters the real thing...and they'll be back out in droves again.

Sad part is...youth eventually realize that 'idealism' is an unrealistic dream, and decide to vote join the corrupt system in order to get their share of the American 'dream.'

[underpants]

13. kick

[INdemo]

14. So did the Obama administration really learn anything from this

trouncing...From what I have observed I would say no..There are those in the administration making the talk show circuit doing nothing more than making excuses but the fact is simple..Obama is acting more like a Republican than a Democrat. If he stays on the same course refusing to give up on this b-partisan bs and hoping Repukes will cooperate he needs to give it up and announce, in about no less than 6 months from now,that he is not seeking a second term and allow our party to have a real progressive launch a campaign so we have a chance at winning in 2012..
Lets face it ..every major piece of legislation that Obama has pushed through Congress has been watered down and looks more like Republicans sponsored those bills.. all this about the youth vote may have merit but Democratic voters are pissed and they wont show up in 2012 if Obama is on the ticket.He has represented Wall St,corporate America and the banking industry as a Republican would do as President. When we thought we had elected a real fighter for middle class issues..we were sure fooled.. Make excuses for President Obama if you would like ..but we cannot win with him in 2012 as a Republican lite..

[Charleston Chew]

16. norad stand down?

where was that in Fahrenheit 9/11

[zenprole]

18. Hear, hear.

After a mid-career period where lameness intruded, Moore has got his fire back and it's wicked cool - the power and clarity that energizes people. This is the guy who arrived with a splash with Roger and Me, but he's more seasoned and quite pissed. I loved the line "take off the pink tutu, Mr. President." (Fat chance of that, however.)

Nice to see Maher sounding off about the perennial cluelessness of the Dems, but his inability to fathom why can be reduced to this: we don't have an opposition party in the US. On a few occasions in the past and maybe in the future, but not these days.

As for this week's panel, Maher apologized for not having a 'conservative.' This was a mistake. Jessica Yellin traffics in tedious, tepid nonsense; she's an Ivy-league careerist used to avoiding even the appearance of independent or controversial thought. She was dead weight and in way over her head.