*GERMAN PEOPLE AWAKE* Nuclear Waste Train Stopped as Police Cry for their Mommies

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People around the world are on the march. The French, the Greek, now the Germans.....

[Confusious]

1. Yea, but for different reasons

Greek and french are against austerity measures, not against nuclear power.

Seems real bright to stop a nuclear waste car. Why not stop the fuel before it goes in the reactor? Might actually accomplish something and not just be a show.

Whoohoo! look at me! I'm protesting garbage! No one is more radical then me! I hate garbage! What? Stop it before it actually goes into the products that make the garbage? Don't be ridiculous! How would I ever get on camera if I'm just working to stop corporations from an office?

[kristopher]

2. They hate nuclear power and the right wing government pushing it.

And of course, your comment is best understood by noting that you are on record as LOVING nuclear power to the point where you rabidly attack renewable energy because it is a threat to that industry.

Just sayin'...

[Confusious]

3. Wrong again

Why do you think you know so much about people? You constantly try and constantly get it wrong. You don't know me from Adam, and yet you seem to think you know everything about what motivates me.

You do this to others also, also implying that by the fact that we "support" nuclear power, we're hidden republicans, or we "work" for the industry.

"support" is a long way from "love." It's also a long way from either of the latter.

Also , I don't "attack" renewables. I would just prefer that there be some reality and pessimism in the discussion. Only a fool would not have a backup plan.

Your entire mode is of dictation, not one of thoughtful discussion, it's "you're either with us or against us," "if you don't agree with me, you're totally completely wrong."

I leave it to you to figure out who that reminds me of and why it bothers me so much. As for proof, someone just needs to read your posts.

"The best are filled with doubt and indecision, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity"
W.B. Yeats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

[kristopher]

4. Here are some facts

Nuclear power is a hard plank in the Republican Party.

It is NOT a hard plank in the Democratic Party.

I did not arbitrarily create that reality.

Although party affiliation is weighted heavily towards republicans supporting nuclear power, party affiliation is NOT a PREDICTOR of support for nuclear power.

In other words, some republicans reject nuclear power, and some Dems support nuclear power.

What DOES predict support for nuclear power is a "values" profile called "traditional" which results in placing high value on security - including energy security. This in turn leads to TRUST in the NUCLEAR INDUSTRY.

That TRUST is a marker of someone who supports nuclear power. Statistically these same people ALSO tend to trust the fossil fuel industry.

Now I know that is rather complex; however it is clearly not calling *you* a republican.

The policy however IS republican - it is what McCain ran on.

You do reotinely and relentlessly attack posts that are positive about renewable energy.

[Confusious]

5. Still wrong. and again with the implications of being a repug.

Oh, no I'm not calling you a republican, even though everything I've mentioned points directly to it. Your way of getting around the rules?

A. have some guts. Say it directly.
B. I don't think anyone, except for you of course, would take a study like that and say it applies to everyone.
C. You mentioned Mccain, but it was Obama that gave the nuclear Industry loans.

I do place a high value on power. Considering the amount of energy that goes into the making of fertilizers that are used to grow the crops that allow millions if not billions of people to eat, and the transportation of those crops, if Not wanting to see millions of people starve is placing a high value on security, then yes I do. The same reason I place a high value on not watching the Midwest turn into another dust bowl because of global warming. People will starve.

So what happens if your renewable paradise doesn't work, or doesn't work in time? Let them eat cake? It's never the fault of the ideology, just the way it was implemented?
Again you also make no mention of if it will fail, or a backup plan.

From your view, it may seem like an attack if you have a "you're either with us or against us" mentality. I want a backup plan. I want to know things will be solved, and renewables, so far, just aren't making the grade. 20% of power in the US by 2030 PROVIDED they increase installations 5 fold, which they didn't do from 2008-2009?

I don't trust the opinion of someone who can see no wrong in something. That is a recipe for disaster, and I have divorced friends who will testify to it.
I also question that person's view of reality.

If you consider criticism an attack, then you've led a very sheltered life.

Oh, one other thing, I don't trust the nuclear industry. I expect the government to have thier jack boots on the throat of the industry at all times to make sure they don't fuck up. I also don't trust greenpeace, or any renewable company. I basically don't trust anyone with a dog in the game, ideologs or fanatics.

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6. You might make the slightest effort to learn,

as might the OP, that this has been ongoing since the 1980's and have been particularly large over the past ten years.

Google's too tough for you? Try this from 2006:
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/11/349118.shtml

or this from 2001:
http://www.expressindia.com/ie/daily/20010328/iin28005.html

Say what you will about their cause, but to attribute their motivations to vanity is the worst kind of keyboard warrior heroics. Look at the maps and you'll see the whole route was protested.

Maybe it would be more useful for you to imagine what it would take for you to face 20,000 of these guys, not your friendly locals,



or to chain yourself to a rail track and just wait for this:



So was this guy posing for a fucking camera? A German kid, protesting in France.

"Protester dies under atomic train"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3990641.stm
"An anti-nuclear protester died after his leg was severed by a train carrying atomic waste from France to Germany"

So what do you believe in with such conviction?

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7. Great links-thanks..