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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:16 AM
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Olbermann & Turley On Mayor Of London Warning Bush He'd Be Arrested As A War Criminal Mid-Book Tour
Edited on Sat Nov-20-10 06:30 AM by Turborama
 
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Keith Olbermann talks with law professor Jonathan Turley about a piece in the conservative Daily Telegraph where Boris Johnson, Mayor Of London, advises George W. Bush not to bring his book tour to Britain, because he could face arrest as a war criminal.


Check here for the transcript: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32390086

George W. Bush can’t fight for freedom and authorise torture
If the West’s aim is to spread the rule of law, it cannot be achieved by vile means, argues Boris Johnson.

By Boris Johnson

It is not yet clear whether George W Bush is planning to cross the Atlantic to flog us his memoirs, but if I were his PR people I would urge caution. As book tours go, this one would be an absolute corker. It is not just that every European capital would be brought to a standstill, as book-signings turned into anti-war riots. The real trouble — from the Bush point of view — is that he might never see Texas again.

One moment he might be holding forth to a great perspiring tent at Hay-on-Wye. The next moment, click, some embarrassed member of the Welsh constabulary could walk on stage, place some handcuffs on the former leader of the Free World, and take him away to be charged. Of course, we are told this scenario is unlikely. Dubya is the former leader of a friendly power, with whom this country is determined to have good relations. But that is what torture-authorising Augusto Pinochet thought. And unlike Pinochet, Mr Bush is making no bones about what he has done.

Unless the 43rd president of the United States has been grievously misrepresented, he has admitted to authorising and sponsoring the use of torture. Asked whether he approved of “waterboarding” in three specific cases, he told his interviewer that “damn right” he did, and that this practice had saved lives in America and Britain. It is hard to overstate the enormity of this admission.

“Waterboarding” is a disgusting practice by which the victim is deliberately made to think that he is drowning. It is not some cunning new psych-ops technique conceived by the CIA. It has been used in the dungeons of dictators for centuries. It is not compatible either with the US constitution or the UN convention against torture. It is deemed to be torture in this country, and above all there is no evidence whatever that it has ever succeeded in doing what Mr Bush claimed. It does not work.

Full article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/8133411/George-W.-Bush-cant-fight-for-freedom-and-authorise-torture.html
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cartouch100 Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:18 AM
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1. Olbermann & Turley On Mayor Of London Warning GWBush He Might Face Arrest As A War Criminal
You know what I read? The mayor in London who's warning Bush is actually a conservative himself, which should tell you about the problems that Bush should face!
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:57 AM
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7. A conservative in England
or in any other European country, for that matter, is to the left of the most liberal person over here. This is why 'liberalism' in this country is a sick joke - like everything else. If liberals over here stood up like the lefties try to do I believe we wouldn't have been in the mess we find ourselves in.
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sasquuatch55 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 04:03 PM
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26. yOU ARE SO RIGHT!
NT
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Paranoid Pessimist Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:48 AM
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20. It would be wonderful to see . . .
smug smirky former President Junior cuffed and perp walked. Maybe he could cut a deal by testifying against Cheyney and all the rest of these tough-talking advocates of legalized atrocity.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:39 AM
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2. Go to London, Junior.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:41 AM
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3. The US should take care of it's own trash.
I thought we were a "Nation Of Laws"...not a nation that protects outlaws.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:21 AM
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6. we should, but it is quite obvious that isn't going to happen. and someone needs to show
the US that we can't just keep shitting all over everyone and get away with it. bush and his cabal all need to be tried for war crimes. yes, we should be doing it, but that aint going to happen.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 10:56 AM
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14. So are you sayin' that we ain't a "Nation Of Laws" as advertised?
Not the "Leader of the "Free World" or the "Beacon Of Freedom"? No longer able to bitch about "Human Rights" when ruthless dictators, despots, scumbags and unitary executives around the world torture and murder unarmed POWs?
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:52 AM
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21. i can picture it now. the president, whoever it is, bitches about someone...
and then we get laughed at because we have absolutely ZERO credibility.
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FedUp_Queer Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:39 PM
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33. I hope it doesn't happen, but...
Edited on Sat Nov-20-10 11:40 PM by FedUp_Queer
Wait until some country captures one of our soldiers, waterboards him and watch the world literally laugh at us when we denounce it as "against international humanitarian law."
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:29 AM
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39. that's it right there and what is the most frustrating when trying to explain WHY torture is bad....
you are just guaranteeing that it will be done to OUR soldiers.... then everyone will be screaming bloody murder. it's ok for US to do it but no one else. but that is bullshit. we can't do whatever we want to others and expect that we will be treated differently.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 12:14 PM
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23. Does this mean that
Condi's shopping trips to Paris and London would be problematic?
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:59 AM
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34. "Bush and his cabal all need to be tried for war crimes."
Edited on Sun Nov-21-10 01:06 AM by Shining Jack
But instead he'll receive a fucking medal just like his criminal father. :grr:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:49 AM
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4. I guess George never read about the Geneva Conventions...but I'm sure Papa did
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:59 AM
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5. More than anything else
the fact that they even considered the use of torture tells us what kind of people comprised the Bush cabal. These are people that should not have even be placed in control of a major city government, let alone the most powerful nation on earth. Evidence? Just look at the results of eight years of these sociopathic policies. They destroyed the nation.

If Bush is never punished for his misdeeds can we at least forever tarnish his name in history? For Christ's sake, there are millions of people that worship the ground this man walks on. These people need a reality check.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:12 AM
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8. I can only hope that he will fall into the hands of those he employed to torture detainees.
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Speed8098 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:22 AM
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9. President Obama needs to step up to the plate
President Obama needs to have his Attorney General and his Justice Department file arrest warrants against Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld AS A START to a deeper investigation of who and what allowed this to happen. Germany is right, if they allow Bush or Cheney on their soil bragging about the torture they approveed they would be hypocrites. I hope the whole world feels that way and is just keeping quiet so they can spring their trap as soon as Bush lands on their soil.
But truthfully, this "We just want to move forward" attitude from the President Obama has me perplexed. I know he has had his hands full trying to bring about financial stability in this country but I hope he decides to change his mind and walk these criminals handcuffed to the nearest jail and proceed with a war crimes trial.
:mad: :mad: :mad:
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:11 AM
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16. He won't.
He won't even allow it to be seriously looked into. This is the former president of the Harvard Law Review and constitutional law prof. at U of C. Obama isn't refusing to act on this because he has too much to do.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:45 AM
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19. I would really love it if he did...
Probably completely out of the realm of possibility though. The msm would shred Obama to pieces for it.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:42 AM
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10.  Turborama
Turborama

Wel, then I hope mr Bush are indeed taking a stroll to London UK.. And then been busted for his crimes. And when, then I hope UK are doing the work, US should have been doing the day after mr Bush was out of office. To let him go around, and many others like him brag about how he desided that torture was okay - and that it posible was far worse than he wil ever admit, after all, waterboarding are not torture by his standard.. He had admited to crimes, now its time to prosecute the son of ****** (whatever you want to say about him)

And as others have pointed out.. Pinochet also belived to be over the law, and was arrested and put into house arrest for 6 months, before he was playing ailing and sick, and it was desided it was better he was leaving for home, rather than die on UK soil.. And not that long after he died indeed... Hope he ended up in some of the deepest corners of hell after he wake up!. Mr Bush are in good healt at least, and should surive a couple of months in UK prison I guess.. He might se the inside of the International Criminal Cort in Haag Holland too if he is really lucky..

No, I doubt he wil leave for europe anytime soon, specially not Western Europe, where we for the most part still are country's of LAWS..

Diclotican
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:34 AM
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11. NOTE TO REPUBLICANS VOTERS: Between George Bush and Rick Scott, you sure know..
...how to pick and vote for the most dishonest, crooked, lying sons-a-bitches possible. Thanks for nothing.
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PuffedMica Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:44 AM
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12. K&R
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 10:42 AM
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13. K&R ! //nt
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:06 AM
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15. K&R
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independentsrule Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:12 AM
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17. Not legal...
Not legal. I hear he didn't ask his legal team if it was legal as he stated in the video but instead ordered his legal team to make it legal, which is why some of them resigned. You make it legal for me, or you're out of a job.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:17 AM
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18. K&R
Thanks posting this.

No Justice. No Peace.

Is it any wonder why this country is in such a mess (still)?

Divine Reciprocity?
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 12:01 PM
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22. Is there a statute of limitations on war crimes? If not, then Bush can not relax
Edited on Sat Nov-20-10 12:02 PM by 1monster
about the possibility prosecution until he dies. The mood of this country could and probably will change in the future. Whether it changes to the point of prosecuting Bush, et als, is something none of us can accurately predict now. The future is a blank sheet of paper that hasn't been written yet (I presume).
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Jemmons Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 12:51 PM
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24. London calling, London calling.... n/t
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 03:22 PM
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25. I would imagine
Had the Obama administration done its duty, and arrested the Bush cabal at the start, we would have had a more fearful Republican party, that their crap, the kind of stuff they are doing now, would NOT be tolerated. We probably would not have heard "You Lie" spoken at the State of the Union address.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 04:15 PM
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27. They're comming to take me away Ha-Ha!!!
Where the #%!$@%!!& are you Turd Blossom!?! Save my ass!!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 04:57 PM
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28. Obama Just needs to step up to the plate and do the right thing!
To hell with what the Repukes/Teabaggers think. They hate him anyway! He needs to set things right with the rest of the world and his supporters at home. In one move like that, he could fix America's reputation. There's a LAW, since 1994, that says Cheney and Bush are War Criminals. They ARE. They should be arrested NOW.
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 05:11 AM
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38. It'as NOT about what the teabaggers think!
It's the wealthy power elite who funds the t-party. bush's "people"!
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:54 PM
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29. There's always Canada!
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sokar101 Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:59 PM
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31. Canada
If Mayor Of London really wanted Bush he would have not said anything about arresting him for torture and would indeed have invited him over and then.... Maybe he could have said he wanted to give Bush an award of some kind. Maybe the Canadian PM could do this.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 01:15 AM
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36. I doubt that the Canadian PM would do shit.
Harper is one of the Chimperor's biggest fan. :puke:
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:05 PM
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30. "I'm not a lawyer"
No you idiot, you were the pResident. Who doesn't know water boarding is torture when you're the pResident.
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 10:46 PM
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32. I'd say Bush's movements will be....
more restricted than Roman Polanski's is. He is right about Serbia being inactive. Although the guy they went for I hardly call problematic. but that's my opinion. The really bad guy in that war died ages ago didn't he. (kinda like the rate Dick Cheney is going.
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Swampguana Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 01:11 AM
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35. ARREST HIM!!!
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 03:21 AM
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37. How about cuffing W while Obama pins the Medal Of Freedom on GHW Bush? n/t
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 11:24 AM
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40. Tic toc tic toc.......they spit in our faces,
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:02 PM
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41. I find it fascinating that President Obama finds it politically inconvenient
to try under well established law admitted and known torturers.

The fact that he can ignore their crimes says a lot about who Obama is.

If the crimes of the bushes had been prosecuted, President Obama would not have to worry about any RepubliCON right now. Instead, we watch him day after day as he kowtows to these criminals.
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