MSNBC: Cenk's Message To President Obama

[ihavenobias]

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Watch Cenk host MSNBC Live through November 30th (3-4pm Eastern, 12-1pm Pacific).

Summary: Cenk Uygur (host of The Young Turks) on MSNBC Live gives his message to president Obama after seeing the first lady at a play in New York City. You can http://eepurl.com/bFr91|sign a Twitter petition here> to help spread the message.

[avaistheone1]

1. Excellent rant Cenk.

I agree with you on all points.

See the video I posted to Michelle Obama.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x527752

[jaxx]

2. Leave it to Cenk to rant at the First Lady so she can tell the POTUS,

No class.

[avaistheone1]

4. I think Cenk's message was on the mark.

Truly when I heard Cenk's rant, I thought he really delivered his message to Michelle is such a classy way.

I can't even imagine what about it offends you?

Or is this your usual knee jerk reaction if Cenk has anything to say at all?

[jaxx]

9. Do personal remarks get brownie points?

As for Cenk, he is boorish in delivering his message to the First Lady in hopes that she will tell the President what a good whine he put on. I always wonder at people who will rant at anybody they think will listen, but lack the cajones to rant at the person the rant is about.

[Enthusiast]

36. He has directed his rant

at President Obama many times. His rant directed at the first lady in an act of desperation because obviously President Obama doesn't give one shit what his 'soon to be' previous supporters think.

[rainlillie]

41. I can't stand it when he is sitting in for ED.

[wordpix]

44. I'm with you and thank you, Cenk! And the rw wingnuts ARE right on keeping the Ethics Comm.

Never thought I'd agree with them on anything but that's one I'll back them on.

[geckosfeet]

6. There is no class in the trenches.

[Radical Activist]

15. Was he calling himself smooth

for his clumsy call-out to his wife? No tact.

[hulka38]

26. He was being self deprecating, calling attn to how unsmooth it was.

But you can't get past the most trivial part of the whole segment which wasn't even part of the plea. Cenk criticizes the President...he speaks evil...I will hear none of it! You guys are way too emotionally involved with politicians.

[Radical Activist]

27. Too emotionally involved

is a good phrase for Cenk. He needs to take a deep breath and look at things logically once in a while. We all get disappointed but whining about the daddy authority figure isn't always the best solution.

[zeemike]

28. Does emotionless cause logic or the other way around.

Seems to me that if logic leads you to see that this thing is broken it is OK to get emotional when no one wants to fix it.
Perhaps if we had gotten emotional 10 years ago we would not have to face this crap not.

[leeroysphitz]

47. +1

[HEyHEY]

33. None of these guys do

The fact we just hand microphones for people to personally piss and moan at the president as part of "current affairs" coverage is a fucking joke.

[Frisbee]

43. He obviously doesn't listen to the people who elected him...

maybe he'll listen to his wife.

[WillyT]

3. Big K & R !!!

:kick:

[geckosfeet]

5. heebeegees - lobbyists are the devil

That said - I like Cenk's appeal to the pres. However, this whole idea of 'changing the system' has a pipe dream ring to it. I would settle for campaign finance and lobby reform.

[Plucketeer]

13. Change the two things you'd settle for, and...

....the "system" IS changed!:think:

[Radical Activist]

17. Obama proposed that in the last State of the Union.

It might have been productive for Cenk to highlight and promote that fact. Instead, Cenk ignores the real Obama and continues his knee-jerk whining about his imaginary Obama.

[RBInMaine]

7. As President Obama can give speeches and propose legislation, but Congress has to PASS it. And, any

lobbying reform has to also pass the court challenges which would be sure to come. Cenk needs a civics lesson.

[RT_Fanatic]

23. Aagreed, but...

If BHO would stand up and really fight for these very important things, we could live with his failing at it...because in that case, it would be both OUR failure and his. No shame in failure if you've stuck up for principle and fought for ALL Americans. No politician wants to do that, it seems. I voted for BHO and would do it again, but he does have to "man up."

[HopeHoops]

8. K&R - Good fight.

[RBInMaine]

10. Obama and Dems have passed HISTORIC amounts of GOOD legislation. BUT, they have not touted their

MANY GOOD accomplishments well enough, and yes, Obama needs to get LOUD and show a FIGHTER persona for working Americans in front of the cameras all the time. When an economy is down, so are moods, and as President he needs to instill confidence and strength and principles. Americans voted for Captain Kirk and not Mr. Spock. He campaigns like Kirk but leads like Spock.

[Radical Activist]

16. Too bad we don't have left pundits who highlight that record.

Instead, we get whiny rants from Cenk who pretends that Obama has done nothing. GENBC chose him for their own purposes.

[Wetzelbill]

11. K and R

[20score]

12. Very well done!

[Radical Activist]

14. Cenk's usual whiny broken record.

"We want you to turn their apple carts over," he hyperventilates. "Storming their castle."

What does that mean? Dissolution of Congress? Ignore the constitution?

Hey Cenk, if you want to be productive, how about saying something to the lame duck session of Congress that's meeting this week? It was the US Senate the blocked more progress, not Obama. Why not pressure the people who are the actual problem? Cenk is for people who prefer emotional outbursts to constructive action or logical thinking.

Cenk claiming that he'll have Obama's back over anything is the most disingenuous empty promise in the history of television.

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[Radical Activist]

21. Was that commented directed at Cenk?

He clearly has nothing constructive to say, and it doesn't sound like he listens to Obama.

[HEyHEY]

34. +1 n/t

[JTFrog]

37. No doubt. Here's DailyKos with A message to Cenk Uygur:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/11/21/922282/-A-Message-to-Cenk-Uygur

A Message to Cenk Uygur
by RASalvatore
Sun Nov 21, 2010 at 07:56:57 AM PST

I don't believe you. I've watched you for years and I've never believed you. You want the same 5 million+/year deals you see the other purveyors of outrage making. You're a one-note pony. You deal in anger and will brook no countering arguments because to do so might imperil your personal aspirations.

I've seen you sitting across the table from economists who flat out claim that TARP was critical and necessary and stopped us from going off the cliff, to which you shrug and say, "Well, I don't agree with that." Bully for you. That makes you any different from the devoid-of-facts chucklenuts at Fox News how, exactly?

If you like Cenk, don't bother coming over the jump.

~~~~snip

But let me add a couple of more points to your claim - Why do you think so many Independents and even Republicans voted for him in 2008, but are now leaving him in droves? - because here's the thing: they're not. You're full of crap.

~~~~snip

In case no one here has noticed, this "letter" wasn't for Cenk. He likely won't read it; he's not here for discussion, as is shown in his disregard for comments. He's here to promote Cenk, and his ticket to seven figures is anger, only anger. He's also smart enough to understand that if the left doesn't promote the good that this White House has accomplished, then no one will, and if he really cared about the changes he says he cares about, he should be smart enough to do the "good" work of balancing his diatribes.

Which is why I don't believe him.

But if you do peruse this, Cenk, then you need only read this last line. Regarding the differences between punditry and actually, you know, governing, as Barney Frank said of Ralph Nader and I say of you: Ralph (Cenk) gets to luxuriate in the purity of his irrelevance.

~~~~

much more of this excellent piece at link

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/11/21/922282/-A-Message-to-Cenk-Uygur

[ihavenobias]

48. Featured Diary @ Kos: 'Updated: Not buying it, baby - the real issue isn't Cenk'

Note: This is just an excerpt, click the link below to read the full diary.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/11/21/922315/-Not-buying-it,-babythe-real-issue-isnt-Cenk|Updated: Not buying it, baby - the real issue isn't Cenk>

Making Cenk's remarks and even Cenk personally the villain is a diversion, a clever distraction, a red herring. The implied message of some of the diarists and other critics of the left is that the left constitutes a threat for merely speaking out about public policy.

The real issue, in my mind, vis-a-vis the recent flurry of diaries either for or against Cenk is whether the centrist faction in this country will support or suppress the right to honest public debate of Obama's policies...

[olegramps]

38. Do you not grasp that the situation is desperate.

The nation is facing bankruptcy and the wealthy Republicans not only want the tax cuts for the wealthy to continue but be increased. President Obama has to to go to the American people and lay out his case loudly and clearly telling the citizens that the wealthy are determined to enslave the 98% of the citizens. He has to tell the citizens that the Republicans and unfortunately far too many Democrats are owned by the powerful corporations. I just don't see him getting the message out.

[fascisthunter]

45. Asking a President is Whinning Now

Ignore that crap... it's a waste of time and effort.

[pleah]

18. K&R

[tomm2thumbs]

19. 'Don't Touch my Cenk...'

hehehe - I'm sure I'm not the first

[Kajsa]

22. K&R!

:kick:

[swilton]

24. Sounds very whiny and desperate

and I'm a fan of the Young Turk...

I think that it's not that Obama doesn't get it - the problem is he does get it and he doesn't care about the little people...We were just duped and exploited to get him into the WH.

[democracy1st]

25. K & R

[Atypical Liberal]

29. At this point...

At this point, all I can think is that once he got into Office he found he was up against powers that he could not fight against and win. All I can think is that the people with the money are pulling the strings. They say 90% of the wealth in this country is controlled by 1% of the people. If that's true, those 1% are some powerful motherfuckers. Maybe beyond the power of votes.

[swilton]

39. I think that assumes his movement into the WH

was an autonomous act which essentially negates the second part of your hypothesis. Have to say that I didn't vote for him other than in the primary; I though all along he was manufactured. But I expected improvement rather than continuing going down this road to hell in a hand basket.

I think his perceived 'weakness'/desire to negotiate masks that his intent all along was to continue down Bush's road. There is substantial evidence that he has/had CIA connections. Pleadings by Cenk, etc. assume Obama wants/wanted to do the right (just) things...This is a myth. Look who works for him - where are the progressives; where is the substantive change?

His foreign policy, etc. is Brzezinskiesque - the Grand Chessboard - leading us to a one world economy governed by world elites. National and world capitalists have been calling the shots; but fortunately/unfortunately, this system they are setting up through Obama is not sustainable.

[timefortherevolution]

30. People are resorting to BEGGING Obama

Give it up!!!
He doesn't want to offend anyone.

That was apparent to many of us during the primaries.
He voted PRESENT ON ALL THE TOUGH ISSUES!!!!

Nice effort though Cenk.

But you're wasting your time.

We need to find someone for '12.

[Swampguana]

31. Good rant

I agree with what he's saying. Change hasn't happened the way most wanted.

[colsohlibgal]

32. An Enormous K&R!

Kudos to Cenk and I agree with everything he said 1000 percent. I can't believe some of you still seem offended that a lot of we real liberals aren't thrilled with Mr. Obama. We're upset because during the campaign he sounded like us and once in office he's acted more like Joe Lieberman. One doesn't have to be overly cynical to think he just said what he said running to get in office.

But I'm now thinking that there is a small percentage of people who are going to defend and make excuses for Obama no matter what - which is very republican like IMHO,

[Enthusiast]

35. Nice rant, Cenk.

But I no longer believe President Obama is with us ideologically.

[swilton]

40. +1

[big lu]

42. K&R

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