TSA harasses pregnant mother, makes her wait >1hr, miss flight, for carrying breast milk

[garybeck]

Run time: 10:48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh1h5Mvc3MM   Posted on YouTube: November 22, 2010 By YouTube Member: newport81 Views on YouTube: 10229   Posted on DU: November 24, 2010 By DU Member: garybeck Views on DU: 2591

 
This is like 1984. Next they're going to have thought police.

[BrklynLiberal]

1. just brilliant............

:silly: :puke: :mad: :spank: :grr: :nuke:

Do they ever hire anyone with an iota of intelligence????????/

The quality of the people in this job is an embarrassment..but then again, they pay what?...minimum wage salaries? and THAT is what is guarding our lives!!!! What a crock of crapola.

These are pompous, arrogant assholes with nothing to be pompous or arrogant about!!

I hope she finds a good lawyer and sues each and every one of those idiots as well as the TSA as a whole.

[reflection]

21. What you said.

This video angers me greatly. Is there no common sense anymore?

[border_town]

30. This whole scenerio doesn't make sense.

I think there is way more to this story than what we are seeing. But you all can buy into the hype if you want to. Have at.

[suzanner]

32. I think it's the training by rote instead of by logic followed by ordinary officials...

An exception is presented. They follow some memorized training meme regardless of the likelyhood. They detain her endlessly, hoping she will say something- 'slip up'- as it were, even though it should be obvious that she's a regular citizen. I see this constantly in other forms today outside the airport. People are given 'assembly-line' type training and discouraged from using common sense or the ability to use deductive reason. They also are not educated in the 'big picture'- it's all hierarchy, up and down the 'line of command'- like they're told: don't trust your own mind; we don't have time or want to spend the money to educate you fully to a point of competence and self-confidence. So they learn to fake these skills and look what happens.

[liberal N proud]

2. What's next?

What is next from these outrageous attacks on our liberties?

[n2doc]

3. But I've been told that none of this is important

and that we should concentrate on more important things like Korea. Or something like that.
Whatever the Very Serious People tell me, anyway. :eyes:

[seabeyond]

4. +1. but does every mom get stopped and miss flight?

:sarcasm:

[reggie the dog]

5. we all may as well protest the pat downs

if they detain you for following the rules anyways...

[T Wolf]

6. The pigs in TSA are just like the other uniformed thugs in our society. They are losers who cannot

find real jobs because of their personality defects.

Just like cops and private security types, they love the authority they have and get off on pushing people around.

Unfortunately, there is no way to fight them because they have all the power.

Only if enough people act up enough to bring air traffic to a halt will something be done. And then, only because the airline corporations would complain about loss of revenue.

There have to be creative ways to crash the system. I am thinking of something akin to a "flashmob" that targets a particular airport at a particular time. Everyone opts-out and forces the assholes to do the time-consuming screening that we really all would like to avoid. Everyone winds up missing their flight. But that would entail sacrifice on the part of Americans and we do not do that.

If you are going to miss your flight because of these domestic terrorists in uniform, then I say, go all out to delay and cause them problems. Fake an illness. Make yourself vomit all over their pretty plexiglass cubes. Collapse on the floor and scream for an ambulance. Pretend you do not speak English. Or are deaf and require a "signer" to explain things to you. Or simply do not understand what they are saying because you are "fuckin retarded."

I am also for using whatever weapons are at your disposal. If you have a young child, or infant, do nothing to control them. Leave it all to the uniformed goons to deal with. I would hope that even idiot America would not put up with children being abused, manhandled, and roughed up by these cretins. But I also would not be surprised if there was little protest of even that. Look at the large numbers of people who supported and continue to support the Catholic church and their pedophiles.

And always make sure a friend is video-taping the incident, and then, you return the favor when they go through.

But, as long as others calmly pass by this woman held prisoner in front of them, with nary a glance in her direction, I cannot see anything remedying this obscenity.

Storm troopers are storm troopers, no matter what uniform they are wearing.

[TheEuclideanOne]

7. Why does the TSA have so many ignorant fat fucks working for them?

I wanted to reach through the screen a beat the shit first out of the Fat Tub of Lard woman just watching her in the clear inspection booth for an hour as she missed her flight. This piece of shit is probably talking with her friends about how the passengers must do what they have to say or they will make their lives a living hell. What a feeling of power from a group of people who should not have power. Then I wanted to beat the crap out of the manager who does not even know his own rules. I would have been arrested if I had to deal with these people in her position.

[azmesa207]

14. I don t

know why you need to call this person a fat fuck , Ignorant for sure but there are a lot of people the are fat that work hard and don't need to be address in that fashion .

[TheEuclideanOne]

20. Well you have no problem insulting ignorant people

Shame on you! Ignorant people also work hard (maybe not smart, but hard) and they don't need to be addressed in that fashion. I am tired of people being prejudiced against the ignorant!

[pecwae]

8. Over a fucking hour

in detention for breast milk possession! And they continue to break their own fucking rules to boot!

[nashville_brook]

31. 110+ minutes -- that's almost TWO hours. no chair, no phone, and missed flight.

according to the time mentioned in the video.

[TheEuclideanOne]

9. Hey Obama, you are in support of all of this. WTF?!?

How you continuosly get on the wrong side over every issue?

[jwirr]

10. Pregnant mother - breast milk?

[garybeck]

11. yes, pregnant mother, breast milk.

[kowalski1]

12. isnt there a hormone

in breast milk that prevents a mother from getting pregnant? I think shes just gave birth and not pregnant

[Demoiselle]

17. It's not a foolproof birth control method, I assure you.

I got pregnant with my second child while still nursing my firstborn. And it ain't a rare thing, either.

[jwirr]

13. I do not know how to ask this but in my experience breast milk is

an after birth issue not during pregnancy. Why did she have breast milk? This does not make sense.

[HopeHoops]

18. 1 year old at home needed it for dinner - it is in the video clip.

On Edit: Oops. This was supposed to be a reply to post #10.

[jwirr]

37. Thank you that explains it.

[garybeck]

24. if you have a kid and you are pregnant with another,

you can still make milk. It could also be breast milk from another nursing mother. I don't think it really matters here.

[suzanner]

34. she was going home to her 1 yr old

it's in the text. (some businesses have a lactation lounge these days; lactating's something you can sort of schedule into a routine but not skip)

[kowalski1]

15. I dont know if am the only

one thinking about this. But imagine the amount of political capital he can gain from squashing this whole TSA over reach. He could get enough capital to pass all sorts of progressive policies that the repubs have been blocking for 2yrs now. This could be the issue that can revive Obama's popularity amount independents, moderate republicans and libertarians.

I know he agrees with it now but that would even make it more of a win if he goes against it and sides with the little people. Just think about it folks

[HopeHoops]

16. K&R - keep it kicked.

[DFW]

19. The cop, the TSA manager, and the fat (I can't even tell the gender) all need immediate dismissal

And they deserve to be on the unemployment line with all the other people
lacking any useful skill whatsoever, and no desire to learn one.

[niceypoo]

22. Security theater

Feel safer now?

[garybeck]

25. I've been wondering where this video came from?

does the TSA release their own incriminating video?

[seabeyond]

23. gosh and we are lectured by duers if we just put a happy smile we will be treated properly

we see on video,

NOT TRUE

[MsPithy]

26. To all of you who think Security Theater makes you safer,

while TSA is fixated on breast milk, who is watching for the real bad guys?

[Boudica the Lyoness]

27. False imprisonment.

"False imprisonment is a restraint of a person in a bounded area without justification or consent. False imprisonment is a common-law felony and a tort. It applies to private as well as governmental detention".

A country has no freedom when pregnant women are imprisoned for only wanting to feed their babies safely and with their own breast milk.

These TSA idiots need to return to their former jobs as Wal-Mart greeters and shopping cart inspectors.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

28. From the TSA web site.

"TSA is also modifying the rules associated with carrying breast milk through security checkpoints. Mothers flying with, and now without, their child will be permitted to bring breast milk in quantities greater than three ounces as long as it is declared for inspection at the security checkpoint.

Breast milk is in the same category as liquid medications".


"Medication and related supplies are normally X-rayed. However, as a customer service, TSA now allows you the option of requesting a visual inspection of your medication and associated supplies".

[garybeck]

29. RESPONSE FROM WOMAN IN THIS VIDEO

text comments from youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdAtb95h1Cc


I am the brunette in black getting my items ready for screening (you will see me about 45 seconds into the video). I travel every week and bring home breast milk with me through Phoenix Sky Harbor. TSA rules allow for alternate screening (no xray) for breast milk and I almost never had
a problem...until the week before this screening. I was held for 30 minutes that week while the
TSA manager called to find out the rules. I was told to "pump and dump," asked why the milk
wasn't clear, and asked where my baby was if it was really milk (uh traveling, working mom pumping doesn't usually have the baby with her). After begging him to figure it out, they finally
let me through. I called and complained to TSA and was instructed to travel with the TSA breast
milk rules printed out and present them whenever there is a problem. As my items come through security this time, I notice immediately that I was dealing with the same people from the week
before. The woman tells me right away that my milk might have to go through xray, and then I
tell her I printed the rules. I go to grab the rules on top of my bag and she freaks out and pushes
my arm away. Another guy comes over and calls for "back up" and they put in me back in the
glass cage. Standing 50 ft away are the same manager and supervisor I had dealt with the previous week. They will stall for 20 minutes before coming over to me. Meanwhile, one of the guys comes over to me and tells me "to be quiet if I know what's good for me." At the end of this portion I have been locked up for just under 10 minutes. The whole ordeal takes just under 1 hour.


my brother in law did me a favor by helping me put the videos together, speed them up, and narrate. He didn't know all the details so there were a few errors but he tried to get it up as soon as possible knowing that the issue really needed to get out there. My son was 7 months old at the time and I
was not pregnant during the video. I got pregnant 6 weeks later and am due any week now with
our next little one. Travel and pumping will start again for me in February 2011...

staceyarmato 21 hours ago
staceyarmato
21 hours ago

@mommy2kdk: I get to the airport just over an hour before my flight. It is a weekly commuter flight b/t PHX and LAX and I don't check luggage. Usually the screening takes 5 extra minutes and lines are short. Clearly I wasn't planning on an hour long screening which is why I missed my flight. @kcornishscott: I am working on getting women and men together on a blog soon. TSA is a major power-house and we need to band together otherwise this abuse of power will continue. I will update soon.

staceyarmato 21 hours ago
staceyarmato
21 hours ago

@mommy2kdk, you bring up a very good point. TSA does a very poor job of communicating the rules for breast milk. However, they are as follows: medical liquids can have an alternate screening (which means no x-ray) but must be announced before the x-ray machine. Breast milk is classified as a medical liquid. Also, the 3.4 oz requirement does not apply to medical liquids and as such does not apply to breast milk.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

39. Thanks for posting that.

It is an abuse of power.

[blackspade]

33. These idiots should be fired.

There should be zero tolerance for TSA folks abusing their power.

[redirish28]

35. What upsets me is the fact that Government own guidelines are put

in that managers face. WHAT HE IS SUPPOSE TO FOLLOW and he doesn't!

[Poboy]

36. This is outrageous.

[BrklynLiberal]

38. kick

[herbm]

40. Haven't TSA agents ever heard of a salad for lunch?