Ayn Rand author moves to New Hampshire with right-wing libertarians

[ilaughatrightwingers]

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If you're progressive in NH, time to get active to counter these goons.

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[ilaughatrightwingers]

3. Maybe, but not Maine

I like your idea of having some kind of leftist state project, but I sure as hell wouldn't pick Maine. It's the second most right-wing state in New England behind NH. I'd choose somewhere more far out there like Oregon. Some anarchist comrades and I were thinking about getting comrades to move to Baltimore (a "dying city" with lots of opportunities for young people) and turn it into Barcelona in 1937.

[liberation]

2. These liberarian ultra-market types are by definition antisocial in most cases...

... with a few sprinkles of sociopathic behavior for the extreme ones.

Therefore trying to create a functional social group made exclusively of those types of people is unsustainable if not downright impossible. The best thing to counter this is do "nothing." Just let them be, and allow them to implode and self destruct. Utter failure is the only logical conclusion to any social experiment made entirely of antisocial individuals. Its like having a pride made up of all adult made lions, it can't work because of the nature of the individuals involved.

So the question is nof "if" but "how soon" will this colony colapse, and more importantly how will they deflect the blame. Because another thing which is also very predictable with all these "self made/personal responsibility" individuals: it is never ever their fault.

[ilaughatrightwingers]

10. Their movement will fail on its own

NH is becoming too "statist" from all the "nanny staters" moving there from NY.

There's also the fact that a lot of people who moved to NH with the free state project have since moved back to the places they came from, since NH is quite a difficult state to move to on a whim. There's no jobs there.

[BobTheSubgenius]

4. The 60's commune movement revisited.

But with a harder edge for the New Millenium.

How terribly au courant.

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[ilaughatrightwingers]

7. Communes are anarcho-communist

But the FSP is far-right "libertarian" and extremely pro-capitalist and pro-private property.

[matt819]

5. What a crock

These guys have been here for more than 6 years. In one town, one of them wanted to build a race track on farmland in a rural area and were shocked to learn that there were zoning regulations. You read the odd story now and again, but that's about it - unless I'm missing some key stories about their momentous accomplishments. At the moment, sadly, the house and senate are republican majorities, with a dem governor, after a few years of being blue. But I don't think the Free Staters are a significant component in the political landscape.

Anyone else with a different view?

[ilaughatrightwingers]

6. Interesting

Do you have a link to an article that talks about the "race track" incident? I know a good number of free staters are pretty unruly. I'm from the Merrimack Valley region myself and have seen NH deteriorate.

[Tesha]

8. NH's in for it...

These guys are nuts and attract even more nuts, and its not making this a nicer place to live. At all.

Interesting point, I went to their website to see about zoning issues, and you're required to give personal information before you can use the search tool. Doesn't that seem odd to you? :banghead:

They disconnect in a whole lot of ways, often not making connections between the simplest things or only looking at a narrow slice of an issue. Basically they're selfish children with limited abilities, and NH is in trouble - deep trouble.

[ilaughatrightwingers]

9. That's why most NH'ers are getting sick of them

Check their blogs. Native New Hampshirites are getting sick and tired of their stupid antics/"civil disobedience".

In fact, I've heard that a good number of the 860 or so free staters who moved to NH have since moved back to the states they lived in before. NH was a horrid choice for a state since the entire Merrimack Valley and Seacoast regions (I'm from the MVR) have morphed into a suburb of Boston. They should have chose Wyoming - at least Cheyenne isn't a suburb of Denver.