Whoopi Goldberg: Whatever comes down from the crosshairs map is ON YOUR HANDS.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Run time: 05:53 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSsyi6B-14o   Posted on YouTube: January 09, 2011 By YouTube Member: TheDesperateHodges Views on YouTube: 4434   Posted on DU: January 09, 2011 By DU Member: Amerigo Vespucci Views on DU: 7941

 
No idea of the date, so please...people who piss and moan and say "THIS IS AN OLD CLIP" aren't adding to the discussion. The YouTube poster uploaded it YESTERDAY. Anyone who wants to complain, go to YouTube and scream in all caps about how they uploaded and old clip and demand to know why they did it.

:eyes:

[Brundle_Fly]

1. I think it's from March.

around the time the crosshairs came out...

the date it came out is important, and relevant... imo.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

8. I didn't say the date isn't relevant

I'm saying that the person who posted it on YouTube posted it yesterday.

I'm saying that it's obviously an older clip.

I'm saying that it's not my responsibility to research something that someone else posted on YouTube and post the actual production date.

And if anyone doesn't like that, don't watch the fucking clip. Period.

[RSillsbee]

45. I think it's your responsibility

To know what you're posting

[Ellipsis]

26. Correct March 25th.

'Tis indeed highly significant from that perspective alone.

[monkeydog]

47. Wow, Barbara Walters looks like shit!

n/t

[Enthusiast]

56. How dare you

speak that way about Barbara Wa Wa!

[phleshdef]

2. It IS an old clip, but I think that makes it even more relevant.

Its not like this issue over the cross hairs poster was just invented in response to the shooting. The shooting just has happened to put the spotlight on something that the right should have been getting shit over ages ago.

[handmade34]

5. absolutely...

the fact that this is so dated magnifies the fact that no one on the right has spoken out...

[targetpractice]

6. There were many complaints about the image...

The fact that Palin and others remained DEFIANT in defending and continuing their subliminal messaging strategy is what is so incriminating.

[Bluenorthwest]

44. You are extremely correct.

Today was have Bill Kristol saying that it is McCarthyism to tie Palin to this act of violence that she called for. But here we have Whoopi cautioning Palin before the fact, attempting to give her pause in her extreme rhetoric. This shows clearly that for many of us, that ad of Palin's was clearly a call to violence and recognized as such months ago.
Many people raised voices about that ad. Palin doubled down with the rhetoric. And that is important indeed.
The age of this clip makes it more important to this moment, not less.

[Enthusiast]

57. Imagine C-Span giving neo-con Kristol

such a platform. Where was the balance? Happens every day on C-Spin.

[harun]

48. People need to know this was BEFORE the shooting.

[mzmolly]

50. Absolutely. It didn't take a rocket scientist to understand that

the kind of rhetoric that right wing LEADERS were promoting was dangerous.

[handmade34]

3. WOW!

"It's not free speech, it's hate speech!"



(Go Dame Edna!)

[targetpractice]

4. I look forward to watching The View tomorrow...

This is from around March 25, 2010... They unanimously agreed (rare for those ladies) that the gunsight crosshairs imagery was over the top and would result in violence.

[AsahinaKimi]

9. I would imagine this clip will be replayed

on the View, AND they will have additional comments.

[democracy1st]

7. K & R

[peacetalksforall]

10. It looks like it was March 25 for The View .

[David Zephyr]

11. The most enthusiastic K&R I can give. Thanks AV for posting this here.

I hope this gets to The View and to Whoopi.

This merits a lot of attention to the video clip.

:kick:

[The Wielding Truth]

12. Palin was warned. She was told there could be bad consequences,

Yet, she and Beck and Limbaugh and Bachman persisted. There will be repercussions and they should stop their un-american threats and lies. They are destroying our civil society.

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. Whoopi knew it was coming.

Thanks for posting this. What an intelligent conversation between all those women. I do mean ALL those women. Including the right-winger.

[mzmolly]

51. Oddly enough, so did Hasslebeck.

eom

[AspenRose]

14. For anyone who is interested, the older posting is here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGoZcPayJds

and people have been commenting since yesterday about how prescient Whoopi was.

[unapatriciated]

15. big K&R

Thanks for posting, it highlights and documents the RW noise machine hate speech and their willful ignorance in regards to warnings of violence.
Palin left her map up even though she had been warned that it incited violence. She basically told anyone who was concerned, to get f%#k. Immediately after this tragedy she took it down and made a public statement to the press expressing concern for the shooting victims well being. She is trying to cover her own arse and could give a damn about them. if she cared she would never have done such a despicable thing, at the very least she should have taken it down after the first criticism.

[suzanner]

16. Dame Edna was a nice sight in the clip, however misplaced...

thanks!

[civilisation]

17. Guinan saw the future forming,. .

[Stuart G]

18. An amazing video...all must see...

a prediction coming true..and who is responsible...

[Lindsey]

19. Wow. I hadn't seen this before. Even Elizabeth agreed w/Whoopi.

Thanks for posting.

[1monster]

23. Elizabeth seems to be growing up a bit, especially where Sarah Palin is

concerned. She was also outraged at Palin's stand on food safety for children recently, IIRC.

[maritzasolito]

20. I have seen more hate directed toward our president here that the "right" is laughing all the way

..............

[tavalon]

28. I am having difficulty understanding what your statement has to do with

this specific discussion.

[bengalherder]

29. Never mind the discussion

I simply don't understand.

[Grassy Knoll]

21. Great clip.....

I wish someone would repost Glenn Beck Mocking Nancy Pelosi
for tearing up about the Harvey Milk Killing, he is such an assh*le.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOmNVBaGF0Q

[BanTheGOP]

22. A spot-on DAMNING bit of evidence to use against Palin!

I am not kidding when I say that Sarah Palin should be indicted for accessory to murder due to her posting that prescient graph that practically YELLED to the world that a congressperson was going to be targeted! This is actually a prime legal source to use, and if no prosecutor is ballsy to bring about criminal charges, this would be a slam dunk, one-and-done piece of evidence that can convince a civil jury to find Palin liable for multiple murders and a hit on a sitting congressperson. Pure and simple.

Please read "Sarah Palin and the Tea Party. Murderers." for a more insightful and comprehensive article on Palin's liability in this horrific affair.

[valerief]

24. Whoopi called it! nt

[Ellipsis]

25. Cool! Thanks for posting this Amerigo Vespucci. 'Tis largely displayed on the front page. K&R

[tavalon]

27. Wow, this is really, really relevant, and that it was discussed well before

the political assassination attempt on one of the crosshair targets makes it all the more relevant and prescient, though not as prescient as one might think. Sure Condaleeza Rice couldn't imagine planes being flown into buildings but the people on the View could imagine perfectly well what was going to happen.

And the blood is on Sarah Palin's hands.

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

30. Wow! Put this piece, Sarah's tweet and the cross-hair's poster together..

...and I think that's game, set, match.

Sarah's tweet - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=157586&mesg_id=157820

[DesertFlower]

31. i'm sure tomorrow will be a great show.

[LaPera]

32. Republicans were warned many times about their violent rhetoric now they are trying to

point fingers at everyone else but themselves....We can't let them get away with this ....if they do they will just continue to do it and lie their way out of it and use the usual republican excuse...."well both parties do it" BULLSHIT!!

[LaPera]

33. Limbaugh will be telling the sheep lies & what to repeat - The pigman will give the spin today and

Fox 'news" Beck, Palin, Hannity, O'Reilly and every republican in congress and on the air will be repeating the same Limbaugh talking points & lies over & over & over again and of course accepting no blame!

Just using the same old republican lie and stand by 'that both parties do it" and the republican will point the finger at everyone else and tell us we have to move on - their sick violent rhetoric cause this and they will accept no blame because they want to continue using fear and hate to get what they want.

[stanwyck]

38. The Right isn't going to have a real discussion on this

You're right. The rightwing hate-talkers will do the usual "lone act perpetrated by an unhinged individual who is probably a liberal" kind of speech. And then the rest of the talk will be about how our Constitution is under attack - much as Elizabeth H. mentioned in this clip. What, specifically, is attacking our Constitution won't be specified - no real discussion of specifics - just more "Our Constitution is under attack" red meat to the salivating audience dogs who will need a pat on the head and some reassurance after this hate-radio fueled tragedy.

[AspenRose]

43. Correct

I've already heard the "free speech is the price of freedom" crap from conservatives on Facebook.

Hate speech is NOT free speech, assholes. A 9-year-old DIED! No one on the right seems to care about this! They'd rather argue about being right holding their position, when there's nothing right about it!

[truth2power]

34. Most important words from Whoopi (starts at 3:55)..

"Let me tell you about people who tell you to do stuff. You notice THEY are not doing it. The people who tell you to go and do stuff, they're at home. They're not going to jail. See, if you get caught...you're behind is going to jail. Your family is going to suffer."

That needs to be put on a billboard, so all these teabaggers can reflect on it. A perfect example of how the elites sit in their mansions and let others take the fall.

[slay]

35. You KNOW it's bad when even Hasslebeck is against Palin - and pretty strongly

I mean don't get me wrong, I'm with Whoppi. She makes great points right around the 4 min mark. But even the queen of right wing excuses herself Haselbeck condemned this. Manson showed his followers who to target as well.

[onecent]

36. What a FIND Amerigo!!

I just woke up and I always come to DU for the "latest". Even Elizabeth...this is tremendous...
Thank you for this...SP DOES NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!!
You have made my day!!!

[Stuart G]

37. kick....all should see....

[Shining Jack]

39. K&R n/t

[florida08]

40. Great clip

will have to watch today to see their response. They were all right and kudos to Hasselback for not spinning. Thanks Amerigo

[RoccoR5955]

41. Palin is guilty, so are her lackeys

It's high time that they were held responsible.

[forty6]

42. Recommending this thread. Whoopi is hardly ever wrong!

This is as pertinent today as it was in March.

Doesn't matter the date, but glad we know when it was said, just the same.

[big lu]

46. k&R

[goforit]

49. Thank you VIEW. But we all know the damage was done.

And SARAH should have been arrested Day 1 when her death threats were aired on her WEB!!!

[EmeraldCityGrl]

52. Did anyone catch the show today? Was this brought up?

[jennied]

53. Wow, I'm so shocked that this clip was from almost a year ago. Seems like yesterday!!!!

How scary is that?!

[AsahinaKimi]

54. Did anyone see THE VIEW today?

Did they follow up?

[Name removed]

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[Enthusiast]

58. We targeted states not people.

More false equivalency.