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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:52 AM
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Loughner's friend Zach Osler says he took the drug Salvia Divinorum
 
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Reports from Loughner’s friends and former teachers lay the foundation for someone mentally disturbed. Could Jared Loughner’s salvia use have triggered or exasperated an underlying case of schizophrenia?

Salvia Divinorum is a drug, legal in some states, and is a hallucinogen. Though proponents of the herb that is either smoked, chewed, inhaled, or its juice drunk believe salvia is safe, the National Institute on Drug Abuse NIDA says otherwise.

The NIDA says about Salvia, “People who abuse salvia generally experience hallucinations or “psychotomimetic” episodes (a transient experience that mimics a psychosis).

Subjective effects have been described as intense but short-lived, appearing in less than 1 minute and lasting less than 30 minutes. They include psychedelic-like changes in visual perception, mood and body sensations, emotional swings, feelings of detachment, and importantly, a highly modified perception of external reality and the self, leading to a decreased ability to interact with one's surroundings.

This last effect has prompted concern about the dangers of driving under the influence of salvinorin. The long-term effects of Salvia abuse have not been investigated systematically

Continue reading on Examiner.com: Arizona shooting update: Jared Loughner used salvia says friend, schizophrenia? - National US Headlines | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/us-headlines-in-national/arizona-shooting-update-jared-loughner-used-salvia-says-friend-schizophrenia#ixzz1AuJGBMrq



If Miley does it, it can't be that bad

Miley Cyrus stimulates the economy...salvia sales up 300% since BongGate
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JackInGreen Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 06:14 AM
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1. I sense
a point loomin' somewhere on the horizon....
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 06:15 AM
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2. that would be ?
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 07:59 AM
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3. Correllation does not equal causation n/t
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 08:08 AM
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4. Just like his political views by not watching tv or listening to radio
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PerpetuallyDazed Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 09:27 AM
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5. I vaguely recall when I first saw "Zeitzeist"
Edited on Thu Jan-13-11 09:28 AM by PerpetuallyDazed
it left me feeling oddly disturbed.

Lots of political theories/ideology, but neither left-nor-right-wing necessarily. It's more of an anarchist/nihilist movie that promotes strong anti-government sentiment and conspiracies. Everyone needs to watch it and actually see the levels of "crazy" we're saturating the atmosphere with...

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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 10:44 AM
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6. I didn't watch it, because I had the impression it was just something from every documentary out
there lumped together
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 11:00 AM
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7. This is ridiculous. Marijuana and Salvia do not cause schizophrenia. Grasping at straws.
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