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Clydetwitch Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:07 PM
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Glenn Beck Shoot Them In The Head Video Clip Found
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcvbw6ExTQ
 
Posted on YouTube: January 20, 2011
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Posted on DU: January 20, 2011
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Just a shot clip.
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Swampguana Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:14 PM
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1. I don't see the rhetoric?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:30 PM
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2. What do you mean?
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HankyDubs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:56 PM
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8. dont want to speak for the original poster but
Edited on Wed Jan-19-11 11:58 PM by HankyDubs
rhetoric is: "The art of using language, especially public speaking, as a means to persuade"

I also see no rhetoric here. I see dear old Glenn telling his audience to "shoot commies in the head." That isn't rhetoric, it's just a call for political violence and assassination.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:36 PM
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3. Huh?
He said "shoot them in the head". Is that not "violent rhetoric" enough for you?
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:49 PM
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6. ?
The original poster didn't mention anything about rhetoric ...

He mentions Glenn Beck telling his listeners they should "shoot them in the head", but might be fired on in response ....

You must have missed that part ...
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ProudProgressiveNow Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 10:48 PM
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38. Longer video link
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 10:50 PM by ProudProgressiveNow
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:45 PM
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4. I read a transcript of that entire rant
A link to the print was posted on DU a couple of days ago. I sent it out to some wingers I know.

Anytime someone says that Beckkk and company are not inciting, show them this.



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Lions_fan Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:49 PM
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7. Can you give the link again?
Or the post on DU where i can find it? Thanks
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 12:25 AM
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9. Various links here:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:48 PM
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5. Thanks. Recommended.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 12:36 AM
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10. I ask you... where is the equivalence on the "other side" for this?
................. Time's up, mofo

There IS none!

KnR
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Cowpunk Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 12:59 AM
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11. Well, I hate to be the party-pooper, but...
Beck was warning Democratic politicians who are supposedly using progressive "revolutionaries" to further their selfish ends that they are playing with fire, and might have to shoot said revolutionaries in the head if they don't want to get burnt.

What he said was still friggin' nuts, but not quite the direct incitement to violence that it's being portrayed as.

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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 01:06 AM
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12. realy hard to make sence of that word salad. a mental case could easily miss read his words. NT
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:15 AM
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20. It was a direct incitement to violence.
There are no progressive revolutionaries. They don't exist now and they have never existed in the past.

Beck is intentionally revving up his listeners in hopes that a few might take violent action against what he characterizes as dangerous revolutionaries. People that advocate a simple social safety net are not revolutionaries. Unless, that is, you consider voting and writing articles and letters an act of violent revolution. Sorry, I call it democracy.
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piniella Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 02:29 AM
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13. Thank you!
I was listening to Mike Malloy's radio show and he played part of this mad man's rant and I then went to look for a clip and a transcript. FAUX News still has the transceript here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594343,00.html#ixzz1BLaeQ600
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millenium falcon Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 02:42 AM
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14. glenn
showed us that the shooter in Arizona had mein kampf and the communist manifesto. this is proof that glenn is right about the people who are out to fundamentally transform America. he has been talking about fascism and communism for along time now. he has made reference to these subjects for years now. either glenn beck is right or the shooter was a glenn beck fan.

glenn is an avid believer of shooting people in the head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CSj2a45MMI
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:54 AM
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16. Where is the 'prudish' FCC when we really need them?
Oh... it's not a 'cute' nipple... :mad:

What about children? Do you think it's ok?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:05 AM
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18. We make fundamental changes through voting traditionally.
The fact he would have Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto would indicate he is more like a Gleen Beck fan than Beck making any sense. The Nazis and Hitler were virulently anti-communist and Beck is the only one suggesting they are two peas in a pod and that there are progressives in our government that somehow resemble them.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 09:07 AM
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23. Beck listeners have been intentionally
misled on the subject of Fascism and Communism.

Glen has even said that the administration's Czars, the name for hereditary Russian monarchs, are somehow evidence of President Obama's communist affiliation. Beck surely knows that the Czar was the very face of opposition to the Russian communist revolution. This is clear misinformation designed to arouse mistrust and hatred toward the Obama Administration.

Now, if somehow Beck doesn't know the real nature of Czarist Russia is he worthy of listening to? I don't think so. If he really believes that Czars in Obama's administration are evidence of communist leanings he is a complete ignoramus and therefore should be given no credence at all.
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Herkamerk Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 09:11 AM
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24. I believe the Czar term was in use
long before Obama?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 09:45 AM
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25. It was. But the point is
Beck uses it as evidence that Obama is somehow communist. This is perfectly obvious.
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:20 AM
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15. K&R nt
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:32 AM
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17. I find Beck down right creepy. He's so over the top. He appeals
mostly to people with subaverage intelligence, the kind of people who have a tendency to take everything literally.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:06 AM
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19. This is a clear incitement to violence.
There is a man in custody that engaged in violent actions that admitted that he was mostly influenced by Beck. This is at the very least grounds to remove Beck from the air -radio or TV.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 12:57 PM
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 02:09 PM
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30. The guy here cited
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AzJusticeFreedom Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:37 AM
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21. Thank you for posting. nt
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CmonMan Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:40 AM
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22. The man never faces consequences to his actions.
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AzJusticeFreedom Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 12:46 PM
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26. Seems to be going viral out there. nt
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 01:29 PM
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28. Just fowarded this to Chris Mathews.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 01:37 PM
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29. Beck is inciting violence against political parties or leaders wanting to change the government, and
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 01:40 PM by Uncle Joe
generally speaking, that's what elections are about.

Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR and even Reagan were about changing what was before them.

Obama in particular and the Democratic Party in general ran on "Change we can believe in!" and Beck's rhetoric isn't aimed at protecting freedom, it's aimed at violently enforcing the status quo.

The key words Beck uses are changing and shooting in the head, someone on the edge of mental stability could and would easily misread that as a call for violence.

The fact that a violence promoting demagogue such as Beck is still able to broadcast their poison on national television is a disgrace.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=218898&mesg_id=218898

Thanks for the thread, Clydetwitch.





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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 02:13 PM
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 02:42 PM
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32. Ok let's analyze that phrase.
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 02:43 PM by Uncle Joe


"Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government."



Is anybody telling anybody else not to talk about the "Founding Fathers" the answer is hell no and Beck knows it.

Now is anybody trying to "change the government," the answer is obviously yes and Beck knew/knows that as well.

The one constant is "shooting in the head" and Beck ties "Talking about the Founding Fathers" and "changing government" in the same manner as Saddam Hussein and 9/11.

Beck never believed he would get shot by someone with major mental issues, because he wasn't violating those two qualifiers; "Not talking about the Founding Fathers" nor working to "change government" but he does know which political Party promotes progressive change and if you believe as I do in the theory of Stochastic Terrorism, then Beck is engaging in terrorism.


Edit to add link.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x217825





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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 04:02 PM
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 04:11 PM
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34. Individually unpredictable as to targeting a particular person, but not
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 04:13 PM by Uncle Joe
toward an ideology and/or subset of people.

Beck didn't belong to that subset of people "promoting change."

Our nation and the world's history is laden with the violent results of hate speech.

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AzJusticeFreedom Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 05:04 PM
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35. Let's assume the shooter did not hear any calls to violence...

I am not saying Loughner listened to Beck.
I am saying it's an incredible coincidence. Tea baggers and pundits like Beck encourage violence. Like shooting people in the head.
And then people get shot in the head

Maybe I should just flat out ask,

"""""is it really acceptable to encourage violence as long as the gunman doesn't seem to have had a direct connection to calls for violence by Beck or their ilk?"""""

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:28 PM
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 09:29 PM
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37. For someone who claims not to like Beck, you certainly are doing back flips trying to defend him
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 09:40 PM by notadmblnd
and his ilk. So, according to your logic this guy isn't inciting violence?

or this guy with the sign saying to bury Obama with Kennedy? http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvO1e0PtaA7aerOpaUS4ISoe92d16RO6Irmr4NyKCDqLOeZHrrgg&t=1 http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvO1e0PtaA7aerOpaUS4ISoe92d16RO6Irmr4NyKCDqLOeZHrrgg&t=1

Just what do you think it means? And what do you suppose this one is saying? http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ89wlsqctG-JtMAs4_L3bYTUS_G-uHQg8373xrTqnSkCgdIWHe
Or this?
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4cudVPI7Pg18qX0fuxcDRHyNIgB1JEp1Rn5uJ8Zv0jQbdIUwncA


If you honestly think that lone nuts can't be influenced by this sort of thing and act and that you're going to convince us here of that, you are going to fail miserably.
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maritimer Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 11:05 PM
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39. the swastika in the background is a nice touch
it lends to the general nuttiness of the man and his "message."

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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 05:27 PM
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40. Wow.
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