Thom Hartmann calls out Fox News for testing new frame - Takers vs Makers

[thomhartmann]

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[democracy1st]

1. K & R

[starroute]

2. The people who already call themselves Makers won't like this

http://radar.oreilly.com/2008/01/maker-movement-gaining-recogni.html

11 January 2008

There have been a number of stories in mainstream media recently recognizing the "Maker movement" exemplified by our own magazines Make: and Craft: and online sites like Etsy and Instructables. (Disclosure: O'Reilly AlphaTech Ventures is an investor in Instructables.) This past week's article in Business Week, Arts and Crafts Find New Life Online is a great example. (There was also a great article in the NY Times a few weeks ago, entitled Handymade 2.0.) The Business Week article cites Etsy, Instructables, and Make, as well as fashion design sharing sites BurdaStyle and StyleShake. I particularly liked that the article singled out the ties of the new movement to open source software:

"Many of these companies say they trace their lineage to the open-source technology movement formed in the '90s by computer programmers who wanted to create software anyone could build upon. Rather than one expert teaching people how to do something, the open-source movement underscored how groups of people could share expertise and build on that knowledge. Now this mindset is rapidly spreading. Says Elizabeth Osder, a visiting professor at the Annenberg School for Communications at the University of Southern California: 'There is this resurgence of interest in DIY and then the desire to bundle up pieces of information and share them in an open-source way.'"

One of the things that the article didn't pick up on, though, was the crossover between technology and craft. I think that Dale Dougherty, the founder of both Make: and Craft: is really onto something in pitching a tent big enough to include both in the resurgence of the do-it-yourself spirit.

I still remember my surprise and delight at the first Maker Faire. In one pavilion I saw the Swap-o-rama-rama, a fantastic do-it-yourself revisioning of the clothing swap, in which people with sewing machines, silk screening, and other tools help the swappers to re-manufacture the clothes on the spot, and hold a fashion show at the end of the day. In the next pavilion was the ACCRC's biodiesel powered Linux supercomputer built out of recycled PCs. The faire included everything from traditional crafts being remade with technology to robotics.

[The Wizard]

3. The Repugs

and their Pox handmaidens turning Americans against each other for cheap political gain. Some call it treason. I call them jerkoffs.

[tanyev]

4. aka, the Proles and the Inner Party

[bobbolink]

5. There you go again, Thom. Its only about the jobs. What about those who are too old, too sick, too

injured to work?

WE are the real parasites, eh?

Yeah, that's progressive........

[TheFarseer]

6. must disagree on one point

"the real 'makers' are the ones out shopping." - paraphrased. This is warped thinking. The makers are the people providing goods and services that people need, and I don't mean investors. I mean the workers that are actually producing the goods and services. Of course I understand that consumers are needed for these products but by his line of reasoning, people buying Chinese crap at Walmart are makers and I certainly disagree with that.

[underpants]

7. No

things aren't produced unless they are being bought. Demand drives supply (set aside marketing).