Congress threatening freedom on the internet - 1

[bridgit]

Run time: 09:59 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KGC8Byup54   Posted on YouTube: June 19, 2006 By YouTube Member: critical12 Views on YouTube: 4810   Posted on DU: November 19, 2006 By DU Member: bridgit Views on DU: 935

 
'The US House of Representatives passed the COPE Act in the dead of night by a three to one margin despite the efforts of those working in the public interest. The bill, which was largely written by the Bell Telephone companies, will fundamentally change the ability of our cities to control and be compensated for the use of public land on which the cable and internet systems depend. The Alliance was able to avert a last minute disaster-- an amendment which would have stripped as much as 1/2 of funding for PEG centers on top of the potential losses already in the bill. This was due to a last minute understanding between the Alliance and Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee who graciously withdrew the amendment. She should be commended for her understanding. The Senate is working on similar legislation. Time requires that those who care about Access and the internet speak loudly to prevent the same bad legislation from passing through the Senate.'

[sweetheart]

1. what congressman markey said is not true

The bellcore was involved with unix, C, and c++, a whole science of
software that is core to the internet. To say that the bell companies were not
involved, is a gross mistelling of technical history, if nothing else, the people
who designed the internet worked jobs at bellcore or the RBOCs revolving doors of
research both inside and outside the RBOCs collaborated to produce the internet.

Yes, the Rboc's (Regional Bell Operating Companies) approach using common channel signalling was entirely different
than internet packet switching, but that is disingenuous, as the common channel
uses packet switching, just differently.

I recognize that the congressperson is speaking about current corproate personalities,
that the bell comapnies have justly and fairly no current claim to the internet,
but to say they were not principal to its development is just wrong.

[bridgit]

3. well i mean seriously, what do congressmen know for sure; we have a...

senator that thinks the internet is a series of hamster habitat tubes :eyes:

[sweetheart]

4. I have done work in bell companies

In NYNEX, in Pacific Bell, Sprint, in core signalling research, programming engines,
the best jobs i've ever got to do, working on those huge signalling designs that
were, at the center, nothing more than a high speed transaction database that
would run on any PC SQL server farm today.

Those companies have handled very private data regarding signalling (which is caller,
called, time) for decades rather fairly. I never saw a security breach regarding
data in the RBOC's in years of work with access to that very kind of data.

When i was in university, i worked as a 411 operator for a summer job for GTE, 'operator 107,
what city please' with the LA basin phone books on micofiche. There was intense operator
training regarding data privacy and overheard conversations, like if i overheard
president reagan ordering crackdowns on aircontroller unions, i would never be able to
testify to it in a court of law.... the phone companies have in past, been good
guardians of that private data, partly in the days where Ma bell was still remembered,
like a university temple in new jersey that would exchange luminaries to the regional
operating companies... that collegiate atmosphere has surely been sold off since,
farmed out to india, strippped clean and gone, but it was the real innovation climate
that made the internet possible, and the people who mistrust them in that video
are right to express concern, but i honestly believe that bandwidth will never again
be an issue in our lifetime, no matter which way this bill goes. It has always been the
mission of the telcos to push bandwidth to infinity, surely the bill is flawed, and
the public has the right indeed (IMO) to oversight of the corporate operations so crucial
to public integrity.

Where is the text bill of what he's talking about?

[bridgit]

5. indeed, i don't think the political component is designed, or thought to...

impact the 'nuts & bolts' components; someone has a better idea, or way of interfacing the technology they will go forward & receive their rewards...the people intended for marginalizing will be just that: marginalized, controlled; they with the freedom to do otherwise are already making up 40% of commercial air fares as it is by paying $1,000's of dollars for 1st class seats as they are changing them out as we speak making them bigger more luxurious all the time, they are likely the ones intended for 'freedom' imo

it is an itty bitty world though as i am a UCLA grad :dunce:

[sweetheart]

6. I got in to UCLA but didn't go

My parents lived too close to the school, i wouldn't have gotten
student housing, and live-at home was not an option, so i made a huge
mistake and took a scholarship to TAMU, where i met the racist
east texas for the first time, and the demon that has become
the bush family.

I took 1 class at ucla was called chem111 :-)

[bridgit]

7. oh know, you poor dear, so they made you burn piles of ill-stacked logs...

:hug: well, i guess they're taz'ing people at UCLA these days x(

[sweetheart]

8. bonfire

It was fun to stack the logs for a short time, until
i saw the confederate stars and bars draped from the bonfire stack.
A bunch of grody drunk, tobacco sucking rednecks really
doesn't offer the cultural respite, even around bonfires, sadly.

The police should just stick to tazing old ladies and infants like they're good at.
They could hang around the venice boardwalk tazering roller skaters, at least
the target would be moving and have a fair shot at getaway... naah, they should just
hang around in grocery store parking lots tazering people who are loading
expensive wine bottles in to their cars, to see if they can get a really
funny smashup on camera.

:-) :hug: Really UCLA would have been so much nicer.

[bridgit]

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