Goverment Moving To Make It Illegal To Video Police Without Permission!

[lovuian]

Run time: 04:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4HFI90ZbVY   Posted on YouTube: November 23, 2011 By YouTube Member: MOXNEWSd0tC0M Views on YouTube: 302   Posted on DU: November 24, 2011 By DU Member: lovuian Views on DU: 6549

 
More and more you see the US Government and states taking away our rights

I think it is obvious the states and US government is very frightened at the citizens reactions to these crimes

but in this day and age I laugh at the absurdity to try and harness it

A person can take a picture in Illinois where it is illegal and phone that same picture to someone in France or Canada or Mexico or China and Russia

and it will be on You tube in 5 minutes....now how are they going to stop that

and what is really sad is that America has less and less rights as other countries

the more they oppress the people ....the more they will rebel

You can destroy You tube but other venues will just open up


their propaganda machine is in utter ruin

[provis99]

1. this is why I have contempt for the law.

There's no relationship between law, justice, and morality. Calling someone a lawbreaker is not an offensive act to me: the OWS people are basically lawbreakers, and I support them in this.

[booley]

2. civil disobedience

It's how we show the difference between Justice and legalism.

[lovuian]

3. Its really obvious there is no Justice in America at this time

Its sad to see the country of Malaysia convict Bush and Blair for war crimes

when America lost thousands of lives of US Soldiers and Millions of Iraqi people lives

and the reality is we did a preemptive strike on a country which had no weapons of mass destruction

we tortured our prisoners of which we hanged the Japanese for the same crimes

there is massive fraud corruption and theft in Wall street and the banksters get a bail out

while the people are told get ready no social security for you and no medicare either


the agenda against the American people have to stop and it will stop believe me

[Butch350]

25. Wait! There's more...

The war mongers are starting to beat the drums of war with IRAN. Stay tuned.

[pacalo]

11. According to the constitution, the OWS participants are not breaking the law.

They have a right to assemble. They may be creating an eyesore for the materialistic who like everything in its place & who are afraid that the protesting masses could possibly bring the 1%'s gravy trains to a halt.

[Devil_Fish]

4. It should be legal to record anything that happens in public. NT

[Angry Dragon]

5. Let us see if there any other links that come out with this same thing

I love to bash the government as much as the next guy
but let us wait and see

[msongs]

8. you think people who murder civilians with drones won't make cop pics illegal? sheesh nt

[Angry Dragon]

22. Don't sheesh me

I half expect the cia to use drones on any protester they want
I expect martial law to be imposed at any time
I expect another bank bailout without permission from the people

What I expect and what happens may be two different things
Until I see some facts it is hard to, with a clear conscious, to condemn something that is just rumored

[peacetalksforall]

6. Nazism. It has been hinted that it is coming. We already had Fascism.

It's a blend. We're going backwards.
We're losing decency.

[go west young man]

7. The paradox is countries like Russia and China have dash cams in all their cars.

These videos are all over You tube. They cover the driver in case of an accident a driver has video evidence of what happened.
Yet in the U.S. if you use one to video a police stop and produce it in court as evidence you will go to jail. Ah what America has
become is such a large joke at this point. If the police do their jobs correctly they have nothing to fear yet they will do anything
to keep their actions out of the public eye. The question at this point is who's gonna protect us from them?

[Douglas Carpenter]

9. that is truly scary -

[truedelphi]

10. K & R for viewing in the morning. Yeah Rattigan. n/t

[pacalo]

12. For the most part, laws reflect good judgment & common sense. If the police are performing their

jobs ethically & within the law, why should it be a crime to photograph them? That is the question for civil rights lawyers to ask when challenging this in court, wherever it should become law.

"Regular" citizens have rights, too, & because judges generally take a police officer's word in a court of law over a victim's of police abuse, it's all the more vital that photographing the police should be allowed in order to have undeniable proof.

[russspeakeasy]

13. Well put.

[matmar]

14. If ain't recorded on video, it's your word vs. the authorities. Guess who wins?

Just another step toward fascism.

Occupy the whole GD country.

[teewrex]

15. This is just sooooo wrong.

[marias23]

16. First Amendment Protects

These laws will not survive a First Amendment challenge. If they do we are over. See ACLU:

http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/know-your-rights-photographers

[Exultant Democracy]

18. Yes of course it would be silly not to trust the SCOTUS to stand up for the people like in 2000

or citizens united.

[jimmydwight]

17. Just Like Iran.

[stlsaxman]

19. why "souseveilence"? it's a stupid word that's hard to pronounce and no one will remember.

where did this guy get it from? never heard it before.

[man4allcats]

20. I found this helpful:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance

[DissedByBush]

29. It helps to pronounce it right

"Sur" in surveillance comes from French for "on."

"Sous" is "under" in French, and it's pronounced "soo."

So, "Sooveillance" is a lot easier to pronounce. I've never heard the word, but that's what I thought when I first read it.

This guy must have just read the word and had no idea about the pronunciation, or anything about French.

[KansDem]

21. I wondered when this was coming.

Transparency is so wrong in a fascist society...

[Jack Rabbit]

23. This sounds like a job for Captain Civil Disobedience

Smile, Inspector Bologna. You, too, Lt. Pike. You're on candid camera.

[snot]

24. I personally have been harrassed while photgraphing more than once.

It's a dam' circus of police & security personnel with nothing better to do.

The last time, I was admonished that "The FBI is going to question you -- HARD!" The FBI apparently did have something better to do, that day.

However, I worry about finding myself on a no fly list one of these days.

Just came across a very useful guide here: http://www.aclu.org/print/free-speech/know-your-rights-photographers .

[DissedByBush]

30. Even where it's not illegal

They'll try to use wiretapping laws against you, any other law they can find such as interfering with police, or just try to bully you in general through false arrest and detention up to the legal limit.

I remember one guy who had a home surveillance system, and had that fact posted on the property.

A visiting cop acted rudely and he took the tape to the police station as proof for his complaint against the officer.

The guy was promptly arrested, even though there was no explicit law against it.

So even if you're completely in the right, you lose the ability to answer "no" to the question "Have you ever been arrested?"

[russspeakeasy]

26. how many lobbyists have they hired so far ?

With unlimited funds and SCOTUS on their side, it should be a cake walk.
If they are deemed illegal they probably can't be used in court.

[pam4water]

27. That is so wrong.

[JJW]

28. If you aren't breaking the law

then there is no reason to fear the camera.