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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 02:54 PM
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Anonymous: Message To The Freedom Fighters Of The World . . .
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE1__DsQqt4
 
Posted on YouTube: November 23, 2011
By YouTube Member: AnonymousPandora
Views on YouTube: 224
 
Posted on DU: November 24, 2011
By DU Member: sce56
Views on DU: 5416
 
A call to all from Anonymous
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 03:05 PM
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1. I like this group
I hope they keep peeling back the crap and allowing the light to reveal the truths.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 03:12 PM
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2. K&R!
:thumbsup:
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 03:15 PM
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3. Regretting having only one K&R to give......BRAVO .
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oldhippydude Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 03:19 PM
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4. thats two
from abq
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 03:40 PM
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6. Yeah ! From another old hippy dude in Abq...Loving Anonymous' communiques.
:hippie:
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 03:19 PM
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5. K&R
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Veracious Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:33 PM
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7. We are Legion...
Vigilance!
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:47 PM
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8. One problem - how do we know who is the "real" annonymous?
This could potentially be dangerous as any intelligence agency could adopt their persona. Essentially this appears to be a new internet entity and while I applaud their ideas the boundlessness and power they may soon weld scares me more than a little bit.

Still kick and rec - we (the 99%) are in-fact desperate and have to accept our champions as they come.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:57 PM
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11. You will know them by the genuousness of their their talk and their deeds.
If they begin to talk and act like someone or something else we will know that they are fakers and are working against our interests. All of us know what is wrong with this country and that is the key to knowing what is fake and what is real.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 08:07 PM
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15. Self delete sorry wrong place
Edited on Thu Nov-24-11 08:08 PM by ooglymoogly
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:33 PM
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18. correction...genuineness
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 08:45 PM
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16. Who actually is Anonymous? Who speaks for Anonymous? How does Anonymous decide on its agenda?
This is an Anonymous video specifically addressing those questions?

link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=634388


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If I am correctly understanding what this video is saying...You or I or anyone else are free to use the the banner of Anonymous to urge a certain action. If it is the consensus of others to follow our call to a given action and the action is successful - then it can be said to be a genuine Anonymous action. But if our call to a given action flounders and does not have sufficient backing to be effective then it is understood to have not developed the necessary consensus to be considered a genuine Anonymous action.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:31 AM
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19. We know by their actions, not their words. Watch what they DO, and you will know.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:47 PM
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9. The call to sanity rings loud and clear....I am with you....
for I seek sanity
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:49 PM
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10. One voice of the global consciousness
that is emerging.

It's true that it cannot be stopped because world-citizenship is the next step in humanity's evolution.
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 08:02 PM
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13. "global consciousness"...
okay...maybe going out on a limb here, but maybe this is what all the 2012 stuff eludes to, a global awakening?

Although I'm not one to believe in such things (prophecy and the like), the timing is interesting :)

and the Mayan calendar is probably not what we think it is, but still....
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:31 AM
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20. Interesting idea TWD...I had not thought of this. Pondering...
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civilisation Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 08:23 AM
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21. Terence McKenna has many great thoughts on this subject..,
"The purpose of the Internet will be to catch the alien mind. It will be coded by human fingers, but it will be truly alien."

"Human history is the boiling of the pond surface of ordinary biology."

"Dark as the hour may appear, we exist in a dimension of greater opportunity, greater freedom, greater possibility than has ever been."

from; http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=186123591412544

Find some of his audio recordings, he had much to say on the idea of the "end of history" and the transcendence of humanity,.

2012 really does seem to be an actual event of some sort, a boiling point. We now have a networked world. That really is something new. We also have run up against the limits of the planet, the ending of the oil age, the finite limits of our broken economic/money system, as all pyramid systems the bottom eventually falls out. We face a great change, we can make something new, something brilliant, from what we are faced with here, or we can continue to squander the resources we have and fade away back into the barbarism of our past.
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 10:54 AM
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22. Yes
You're on the right track. And whether you believe it or not, an absolutely brilliant future is beginning to unfold, but there's a lot of stuff that has to be destroyed and gotten rid of first, such as an irredeemably broken and corrupt financial system, corrupt governments, etc. These will all fall on their own, I'm not calling for anyone to take down this or any other government. These movements will grow and spread and many governments will fall of their own weight.

Religions will fall too -- that's one I'm eagerly looking forward to -- the revelations that will precipitate that.

Take a look at how the Occupy Movements are self-organizing and self-governing. That is quite a lesson. I don't know that their methods aren't ultimately too unwieldy for common use in their current forms, but it's still quite a lesson and I believe many of the things they're doing will evolve into new forms of structuring society.

The Mayan calendar isn't something I know a lot about other than this: Those Mayans knew a LOT about astronomy!! and their calendars were very specific and detailed and were set up for thousands of years in various cycles. The movement of the planet Venus, for example, was one such cycle that was documented and enshrined in their calendars. The time we're living in is one in which a lot of cosmic cycles are converging all at the same time -- something that hasn't happened for at least 26,000 years if not longer (I think there's an even longer cycle that's also ending now). In any case, it's not that the WORLD is ending, but that this TIME is ending -- thus, The End Times. For whatever reason, quite possibly because the future hasn't been fully created yet, the Mayans couldn't "see" beyond this point, but a 'beyond this point' absolutely does exist. You can count on that!

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:39 PM
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25. Mayans couldn't "see" beyond this point. I beg to differ. The calendar is wheels within wheels.
Beyond this, or any point is another cycle. It never "ends".
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 04:12 PM
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26. What is it you disagree with?
Their calender ENDS. Are you trying to disagree with that fact?

If there are huge, thousands-upon-thousands-of-years-long cycles all coming to an end at the same time, an absolute "end" is entirely conceivable to the finite mind.

Again, I don't understand what you're disagreeing with.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:42 PM
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27. Please point out the end of any circle.
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 09:11 PM
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28. You're not making any sense to me, and your obtuse response
Edited on Fri Nov-25-11 09:11 PM by Remember Me
doesn't help.

I frankly don't care, since you have no respect for my questions to try to get you to clarify, so I'll just leave it at this:

It's not clear to me whether you are saying that the Mayan calendar did indeed continue -- or whether you're saying that philosophically there's no end to cosmic cycles.

I would also point out: OUR calendars end every year. December 31, as a matter of fact. You might make a note of that.

I'm done.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:26 PM
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24. That's my take on it too...
I was thinking about "the Singularity" and realized that maybe the first singularity isn't about machines...it's about us, humanity...
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 07:32 PM
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12. ^
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Riley18 Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 08:03 PM
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14. I am glad this group is here. We will need them.
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Fantastic Anarchist Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 09:15 PM
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17. A very subversive kickrec ...
I'm so diggin' Anonymous. The help tilt the balance back just our way a bit.

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 12:45 PM
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23. Maybe they're God?
I love the omnipresence of them.
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