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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 11:16 PM
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Obama losing his base
and I got a bridge to nowhere to sell you.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/1/2/821365/-Reality-Check:-Obama-popular-with-Democrats

"Reality Check: Obama popular with Democrats
by Mark Warner is God
Reality Check: Obama popular with Democrats
Barack Obama is incredibly popular with Democrats. He has a +84% net favorability. Compare that to a year ago, when he had a +82% favorability. Hmmm...he's really losing his base! I know that intensity has slipped a bit. But his actual popularity has not slipped. He isn't losing his base. He just needs to fire them up again.

You know who else loves Obama? Young people. He has a +70% favorability rating with people from 18-29. A year ago, it was +60%. Wow. He's really slipping!

Guess we can throw the myths of Obama losing his base and young people into the garbage can, can't we?

Mark Warner is God's diary :: ::
What does this show? It shows that the blogosphere is a different animal from the Democratic party. It magnifies the loud, annoying, piercing, whiny, and shrill voices, and sometimes we make the mistake of believing that those voices are the majority.

The trolls who keep stopping by here to post about primarying Obama need to take this diary, print it out, attach it to a rocket, and fire that rocket up their asses. See below for detailed instructions:"

If this is losing his base, I hope he keeps on losing it.

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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 11:21 PM
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1. Very good!
What bothers me is the impression of what his "base" is in the media. The media tries to make regular Democrats, who very much support the President (even when they disagree with him on some issues) as some kind of extreme element and say if he looses these people he never really had then he's through.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 11:46 PM
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3. dailykos, firedog
is portrayed as his base, when in reality they are a small portion of it, when compared to the rest of the base (minorities, women, unions).

When you add 1st time voters and that does not only include young voters. It include older people who were never motivated to vote before. I know a lot of felons who voted for the 1st time. These were men and women who paid their debt to society and saw something of themselves when they looked at Barack and Michelle. The Obamas made them realize that they could and SHOULD do better.

That's why this primarying nonsense is very dangerous. If the progressives try to primary Obama, the democratic party and the progressives will feel the backlash for generations.

The progressives on here try to justify their actions by bringing up the CBC. The poor thangs. The CBC know that they have to go back home to their districts that support Obama. They may go on talkshows, but you better believe at the end of the day they WILL NOT do anything that will seriously hurt the man.
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billh58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:27 PM
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18. Not only the
Edited on Sun Jan-03-10 07:31 PM by billh58
"media," but a contingent of DU members also believe that only they make up his true base. The "he betrayed our expectations" crowd have lost sight of the fact that the entire Liberal movement, and Liberal Democrats in particular, were NOT expecting either a Far Left agenda, nor even a decidedly Left agenda. We were expecting a change from a Far Right, Unitary Executive, anti-Constitution, treasury-emptying, fuck-the-Middle-Class, Neoconservative agenda -- and it appears that is the change that President Obama is attempting to achieve.

Restoring a collapsed economy, responsibly ending two raging and ill-managed wars, and restoring the image of the United States around the world, does not leave room for many more expectations -- let alone unrealistic and self-inflicted fantasy expectations.

Where is the focused and orchestrated outrage from this pitchfork-wielding DU group for the Democratically-controlled Congress which has been in power for two whole years longer than the Obama Administration? Where are the calls for the replacement of the Joe Liebermans, the Ben Nelsons, and all of the other DINOs who are impeding President Obama's agenda at every turn?

Oh wait, these anti-Liberal, traitorous assholes in Congress posing as Democrats were not the focus of the bitter and inflammatory Primary elections were they? I just knew that I could figure it out if I thought long enough...

:dem:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 11:30 PM
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2. Oh, the media does love to spin spin spin, don't they?
And some folks posting on this website totally buy into the spin, or use it for their own negative purposes.

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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:09 PM
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12. Exactly, I no longer trust the media AT ALL
I don't watch TV media, I read stories I want to read on the internet so I only have to deal with the written spin and not both written spin, and verbal spin combined with facial expression spin and headlines voiced over and over that have nothing to do with the actual story they are attached to. It is all a game in the media, they wouldn't care if this country went straight into chaos as long as they got a scoop on it, and I believe they are very attached to creating what chaos they can create with their "news". They were all up Bush's ass when we entered two WARS with people being killed; they absolutely did not do their job for 8 years while Bush supervised death and destruction after being all crazy over Bill Clinton's sex life. The American media is not the friend of the American people or any people in the world, they may seem "conservative" but a lot of kids from the right-wing south have fought and died in the Bush wars so I wouldn't consider them "friends" to their parents, brain washed as they may often be. And a lot of conservatives are hurting economically and will hurt from climate change, whether they will ever understand the reason or not, they are being allowed to suffer just like the rest of us because we have a media that wasn't interested in truth. The media couldn't care less about human lives.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 11:48 PM
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4. I live a bit isolated from the world by choice.
the blogosphere is sometimes all I have to fill me in on what is going on out there. It is articles/posts like this that keep me going strong. Oh, that and my own stubborn hard headedness.

In my lifetime I have never seen so many work so hard to destroy the hope of those who are hoping to make this a better world and a man who is trying to clean up the mess made by those who went before. I have never seen so many pretend to jump ship due to that man not making the world perfect in less than a year. Some of them thinking that their far left hero could have done it better need a reality check and not getting it because the media is happy to take advantage of them and use them for their own benefit.

Yes, I live in isolation but as long as there are some of you out there to help keep me in touch with what is really going on in reality.

Sorry for rambling tonight.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:02 AM
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5. No problem
it's easy to get caught up in the blogosphere.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:44 AM
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6. I'm hearing more & more rational voices lately. I had pretty much given up...
on "progressive" radio as they all seem to get their show content from the blogs, particularly Firedog Lake. Same talking points from one show to the next, except for Randi Rhodes. I don't think she bothers with the lefty blogs. Of course, she's been called a DLC shill, corporate whore, cheerleader, etc. (just like the rest of us).
I'm just glad to see some people stepping away from the rabid pack mentality that's taken over the left in recent months.

It's been very disturbing to see the "losing his base" meme take hold, when we all know that's just simply not true. Thanks for posting this.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:59 AM
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7. Many were well aware of the disconnect between the blogosphere & rank and file Dems
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 01:49 AM
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8. Exactly. And not just between rank and file Dems, but regular Americans as well.
But hey, they've got bills to pay just like everyone else. Sensationalism sells, don't it??
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 09:34 AM
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9. This guy must be a carpenter, because he hit the nail on the head
:applause:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:27 AM
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11. Yes the poster is a carpenter
:hi:
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euphoria12leo Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:25 AM
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10. I watched CNN one day
big mistake. Wolf Blitzer tried repeatedly to get a Congresswoman to say the AA community is unhappy with President Obama. She didn't get caught in his trap. The President is just slipping and the thrill is gone with AA's. Sure it is, sarcasm.

I campaigned for Obama and donated. Not anymore, blah, blah blah. These are comments you read on this site. I just unsubscribed to BarackObama.com. People are really trying hard to get others to change their minds. I'm use to all these tactics. They tried them during the campaign. The media really goes all out to divide the Democratic party. I say screw them and Democrats should keep moving forward. I hope the President is ready to get his base fired up and ready to go!! But what is more important, people need to get off their arses and vote.



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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:11 PM
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13. Timing. . .
Now is a good time for the "trolls" to peak. A couple of months from now might be even better. "He just needs to fire them up again" but not right now. Think "November."

Barack Obama, like his idol (and mine) Abraham Lincoln, is a shrewd character. Timing is everything. We did right in hiring this guy to do the most difficult job in the world. ;)
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:21 PM
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14. There's an active OP now that has me scratching my head.
"There is an important silver lining to Obama's selling out of "the base."

He sold us out. We can sell him out."

The OP and comments go on to advocate reaching out to unhappy Republican voters.

So I'm thinking about the issues on which we've been "sold out", wondering what reasoning makes them think they'll have more issues in common with them than with us (Obama supporters). It occurs to me that disaffected Democrats and unhappy Republicans have one thing in common and it doesn't have anything to do with issues and everything to do with personalities.

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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 12:54 PM
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15. Yep.



And may I say, I love the BOG!
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 02:54 PM
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16. Are you selling that bridge on ebay?

:P
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:11 PM
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17. No, but you can see Russia
when you walk on it.lol
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 10:08 PM
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19. He isn't losing his base, and in 2010 the Democrats will maintain the majority in Congress
I am not sure where these wonderful insights that the Democrats are on their last legs is coming from, but it is total bull

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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:49 AM
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20. If Democrats lose 20 or fewer House seats it will actually be a victory
You've got to expect to lose some seats in an off year, after two crushing victories. We have an opportunity to set them back on the heels real good and we should do everything we can to make that happen.

At some point they "conservatives" have to hit bottom and realize that their idiotic and dysfunctional objectivist bullshit won't cut it.

When do our wingnuts hit bottom?
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