What is it with the Rahm hate? Bayh and Baucus have caused real damage. Yet silence on those two

[TheBigotBasher]

I'm gain bringing this up as almost every day there seems to be a new reason to hate on "Rahmbo".

Frenchiecat wrote an excellent article questioning this and highlighting the fact that Rahm is far from the "blue dog" posters on DU say he is. Of course all the idiot "he called us retard posts" came out.

A major part of the rise of the Republicans has however had nothing whatsoever to do with the President. It is Congress and more so the Senate. Much much more in fact. Nancy has, even with difficult legislation and a much wider range of "cats to herd", consistently delivered.

Almost every bill that has gone through the Senate the delays have been with the GOP, fine that was their job, but also with Senators Baucus, Bayh and Landrieu. Lieberman - despite the very deserved distrust people have of him has actually been less of a divisive factor than these three.

Yet, you read nothing about these three on DU. Everything is the fault of the President and Rahm Emmanuel. As if they have the power to force the hands of these three by remote control.

For all of the Dennis and Hillary worshippers on the main boards, few explain how their annointed Patron Saints would have achieved anything different to the President, given the attitudes of certain members of the Congress.

Maybe, in the alternate reality that Hillary had won, Bayh may have been VP, which would have removed a trouble maker from the Senate. It is quite obvious he believes that as you could almost see the hatred coming out of his eyes when he was asking the President a question the other day.

Despite that, it would have still left Baucus and Landrieu there. They both seem to have their own agenda and it does not appear to help the Democratic Party. Also it is quite clear from polling it does not help them. Any governing Party should quickly learn that a Party divided does not win elections, yet all they have done is fight against the platform that they were elected to serve on.

Of all the accusations levelled at Obama, the one about him not being ready is not true. The Senate was not ready to help govern.

Where is the outrage about these Senators?

Where is the talk of Primaries against these people? Deathly silence. Seriously try find some real talk about it. You will find lots of Lieberman hate, yeah fine, he betrayed the Party, all Democratic supporters distrust / hate him. Lots of talk about about Specter, but Republicans want revenge on him too. Nothing about "the blue dogs", who you would think are the real enemies of the "Liberal left".

It really does make you wonder if these people are the "Liberals" that they claim to be.

Blame the President is a meme. A Republican meme that they hope to use to win back Congress with. There are a good number of "Liberals" who are more than actively repeating that meme, and many true liberals are actually falling for that meme.

[HopeOverFear]

1. *cough*he's jewish*cough*

[TheBigotBasher]

2. Good old racism and bigotryI would not be shocked.

[HopeOverFear]

4. I really do not like bringing up race, I swear I don't.

but....I mean, when you've exhausted all other possibles, what the hell else is there??? :shrug:

[CTLawGuy]

10. I was thinking the same thing...

some variation on the Jewish Conspiracy canard.

[goclark]

3. They have thrown his name against the wall so many times

that it sticks.

Maybe I don't get it but to me he is like a bulldog.
Always better to have him be by your side and fight the GOP than some nice little puppy that they will steo ib.

:shrug: I don't understand it.

[firedupdem]

5. He was called "arrogant" by a poster the other night. Still no

real reason for the Rahm hate.

[NYC_SKP]

14. firedupdem!

Happy Valentine's Day!

:loveya:

:hi:

[Arkana]

6. Not Baucus--pretty sure he's universally hated.

I can't stand him.

[TheBigotBasher]

7. Of all the treachery he has carried out

how many posts blame him, compared to Rahm or Obama?

You will find few, yet his continual betrayals of the party platformm are a pretty good reason why the health care bill is where it is at today and why the Democratic Party has lost popularity. With 60 votes in teh Senate, something should have been passed by now.

He was a very good reason why "60 votes" was false.

[Number23]

8. Baucus has been called out quite a bit, but you're right.

It absolutely PALES in comparison to the number of posts calling for Obama or Rahm's head on a platter. Reid gets it too but again, nowhere NEAR as much as Obama.

Great OP, BB. :thumbsup:

[Arkana]

9. Because Rahm Emanuel and Howard Dean may at one point

had a fight.

That makes Rahm unclean and sinful.

[CTLawGuy]

11. the fact that Dean is these people's savior is funny to me

Dean was attacked back in 03-04 because:

1. He was in the DLC and he believed in a balanced budget,
2. he supposedly signed the VT civil unions bill in an insufficiently public ceremony, therefore he was really anti-gay,
3. He didn't really oppose the Iraq War because he spoke in favor of the Biden-Lugar alternative

[Arkana]

12. I like Dean. Always have.

I thought he would have made a good Prez and I thought he burned down the house as party chair.

[Kaleva]

13. There was little love expressed for Rahm when he was selected to be COS.

I looked in the archives not long ago for threads about him when it was announced and the great majority of comments were negative. Some expressed hope he'd change in his new position. I do occasionally see threads about Bayh and Baucus here but it's ussually only when they say or do something that makes the news.

[TicketyBoo]

15. Well, I guess you should be happy

now that Bayh has withdrawn.

Personally, I'm not thrilled with it. I know that our Ben Nelson is right next to Bayh as far as being a conservative Democrat, but he is as good as we can do here. It may be the same situation in Indiana, for all I know, and it sounds like he was a sure thing for re-election. It's likely that they may end up with someone even worse.