Welcome to the weekend - the time when anti-Obama, anti-HCR rules the days.

[Pirate Smile]

I swear it is worse on the weekends.

It is Friday night and I already see it.

ugghhhh


edit to add - I posted this in GD: P but think it may be appreciated here more:

A Historic Achievement

I don’t think the arguments mounted by Pat Caddell and Douglas Schoen that Democrats will face political disaster if they pass health reform hold water. Or, rather, I think they disingenuously fail to consider the alternative. If reform passes, Democrats will almost certainly lose a whole bunch of seats in November. But if reform fails, Democrats will also almost certainly lose a whole bunch of seats in November. At the margin, passing reform helps the party’s prospects in the midterms in my view, but the midterms outlook is just bad and there’s nothing to be done health care-wise at this point to change that.

A larger question any member of congress reading the op-ed ought to ask himself is “so what?” If reform passes and is signed into law, then immediately Barack Obama’s position in history is secured. When people look back from 2060 on the creation of the American welfare state, they’ll say that FDR, LBJ, and BHO were its main architects, with Roosevelt enshrining the principle of universal social insurance into law and Obama completing the initial promise of the New Deal. Members of congress who helped him do that will have a place in history. Nobody’s going to be very interested in a story like “Mike Ross served a bunch of years in Congress and people were impressed with his ability to win a relatively conservative district; he didn’t achieve very much and one day he wasn’t in Congress anymore.”

Which is just to say that nobody lasts in office forever, no congressional majority lasts forever, and no party controls the White House forever. But the measure of a political coalition isn’t how long it lasted, but what it achieved. From the tone of a lot of present-day political commentary you’d think that the big mistake Lyndon Johnson made during his tenure in the White House was that by passing the Civil Rights Act he wound up damaging the Democratic Party politically by opening the South up to the GOP. Back on planet normal, that’s the crowning achievement of his presidency.

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2010/03/a-historic-achievement.php

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1. HRC will be an important foundation to

build on like FDR's SS.

Not sure what the people are thinking who want to start over? When? With who?

As Krugman said.."It's a reasonable, responsible plan."

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2. It would just kill it for decades.

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3. That's what logic would

lead to and that's why Pres Obama wanted to do it now and not wait like so many were nattering for.

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4. K

[sandnsea]

5. Yeah, I used to call it Silly Sunday

It's definitely spread to the whole week-end. Must be kids busy at school during the week or something.

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6. I think it is partly caused by the people who check out DU during the work week while at work that

are now gone and it lets the disgruntled run wild or maybe the disgruntled just post a lot more on the weekend and it isn't evened out because other folks are out living their lives.

Whatever it is, it is noticeable.

[cliffordu]

7. Yep.

[quiet.american]

8. Yes, I see there's currently a popular thread that's filled with the usual suspects -

- congratulating themselves on how "right" they are about the Democrats pulling one over on everyone. They're going nuts over the issue of the public option, when Jacob Hacker, father of the public option himself, has publicly said it was meant as a means to an end and that it is wrong for progressives to not support the bill. He then went on to state that the way to bring the bill closer to what the public option would accomplish was to essentially provide greater assistance with the cost of premiums and to more stringently regulate the insurance companies - both items of which are addressed in the President's Proposal.

And you know what? Every single one of those now howling at the moon will be protected from insurance company abuses and, more than likely, will at sometime in their lives be secretly grateful for the access to healthcare, yes healthcare, that this bill will provide them. But they won't acknowledge it. They give the impression they would rather drink hemlock than admit, that maybe, just maybe, they're wrong in their doomsday scenarios.

Loved this comment from Yglesias: "Nobody’s going to be very interested in a story like “Mike Ross served a bunch of years in Congress and people were impressed with his ability to win a relatively conservative district; he didn’t achieve very much and one day he wasn’t in Congress anymore.”

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9. That comment flashed

at me too.

"Nobody’s going to be very interested in a story like “Mike Ross served a bunch of years in Congress and people were impressed with his ability to win a relatively conservative district; he didn’t achieve very much and one day he wasn’t in Congress anymore.”

That could be my blue dog, Mike.