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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 08:29 PM
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Did I just read that Dennis is going to change
Edited on Tue Mar-16-10 08:29 PM by goclark
his vote tomorrow?

I saw it in Discussion
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 08:40 PM
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1. Yeah. Fineman on Countdown today said it looks like he's gonna change it.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 08:59 PM
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2. Yep. Howard Fineman seems to think it's solid info that Kucinich will change to a "yes."
As the saying goes though, I won't spend it til I got it. I'll believe it when I hear it from his own lips. Then, after this, if I never hear his name again it won't be too soon.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 09:20 PM
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3. Yes you did.
Hell has officially frozen over, folks. Dennis Kucinich has decided to put pragmatism ahead of grandstanding.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 09:30 PM
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4. I don't think labor pressure in OH hurt either.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 11:00 PM
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8. If he's switching ...

... my guess is that labor pressure is the main factor.

He had nothing to lose and everything to gain by setting himself apart from the White House. It doesn't really affect him directly in his district. But, if he goes against labor organizations in his own backyard who promise to put up a primary opponent, he's going to have some trouble.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 11:07 PM
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10. If he does switch after all this drama..
I hope we find out the real reason.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:15 PM
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17. He may belong to DU
and was leading the band. :shrug:
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 09:30 PM
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5. Believe it when I hear it ...
Can his mouth even form the word "yes"?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:12 PM
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6. All but a few are going to vote for it

There are a lot of good things in this bill
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:53 AM
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11. Thanks as always grantcart for
yourcalmness.

I know you speak the truth.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:47 PM
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7. What will GD do if that happens?
Will Dennis get thrown under the bus? Or will the bill be OK now because Dennis voted for it? Any guesses?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 11:06 PM
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9. We'll see..tomorrow promises to be
a very interesting St Paddy's Day.

Almost guarantee that President Obama will get no credit for it.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 06:10 AM
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12. Some DK supporters will do what they accuse Obama supporters of doing
Edited on Wed Mar-17-10 06:20 AM by Kaleva
They may well say that they trust DK's judgment and if he does switch is vote to a "Yes", he did so after careful consideration of all the facts available to him.

This is normal and to be expected. Most everyone is far more forgiving of one whom they support then one they dislike.

Edit: Then I read posts where the Administration probably has threatened DK's family. I guess that's to be expected too.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 03:22 PM
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18. They will be angry
and blame the entire "change of heart" on the President.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 03:36 PM
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22. The new meme is that Dennis was "threatened".
This guy voted against SCHIP--clearly he has no compunction about voting against these things.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:58 AM
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13. The spin coming from StD supporters is hilarious!
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:08 AM
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14. Obama threatened him and Dennis is doing it because he fears for his and his family's
Edited on Wed Mar-17-10 10:08 AM by NYC Liberal
safety.

No, really. I read that in GD.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:13 AM
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15. That is one of the strangest things I've read on DU... and so delusional.
Or, how about StD was really planning on voting yes all along and don't all the Dennis haters feel foolish now? And we hated StD for his stand on equality and liberalness?
Paraphrasing but that's pretty much what another poster said.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:17 AM
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16. Yeah, I've never hated him for his positions. I've only criticized his refusal
to vote for things because they weren't perfect or exactly what he wanted.

So I'm a right-wing DLC corporatist or something like that.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 11:12 AM
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19. Are you kidding?
Point me to this thread so I can open a can of Rahm Emanuel-style Whoopass.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:54 PM
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21. And I'd bet the NSA has wiretapped his phone
And sent secret agents to his house to eat all his soy yougurt too. Damn that untrustworthy Obama!
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:30 PM
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20. Can't wait to hear the spin now that he's whipping votes FOR HCR.
The bus is in reverse, so it can back up and run over him again.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 10:24 AM
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23. Wow. So I just found a photo of Obama threatening to murder DK and his family on AF1!


Can't you just see the intimidation, the threatening body language?
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