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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:41 AM
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Booman sets Cenk Uygur straight on a few things
Boo has this posted on dailykos and his own site Booman.

it seems that some progressives are excusing their criticism (bashing) of Obama as a way of helping him electorally. WhatEVER. One such progressive is cenk and Boo definitely sets him straight about the use of this strategy.

I'm providing the link to his site below:
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2009/12/30/221442/11

by BooMan
Wed Dec 30th, 2009 at 10:14:42 PM EST

"In a set of recent pieces, Cenk Uygur has made a defense of relentless criticism of the president and an argument that Howard Dean and Jane Hamsher cannot be wrong no matter what they say so long as they are attacking the president from the left. Part of this argument I understand. Cenk is arguing that loud, visible criticism from the left helps blunt accusations that Obama is himself on the left, and that this makes him appear moderate which, in turn, makes his job easier. This isn't an argument on the merits. Cenk isn't saying that Obama is left, center, or right, and he isn't arguing that criticism of him is fair or accurate or otherwise. He's making a simple observation about how it benefits Obama politically to be attacked from the left. In this view, there is no downside to blasting away at the president from the left because you are either right and he might hear you, or you are wrong but he'll benefit from the optics anyway. There are a couple of flaws with this strategy, even if it is true so far as it goes."

He has an answer to each of cenk's justifications for bashing Obama from the left. Another point that I like from Boo's piece is cenk's assertion that msm only have moderate dems on their shows and no progressives.

"But Cenk is wrong about this. The only progressives who get on teevee and radio are bombthrowers who attack the president (and blacks that got confused and became Republican shills). You never see supportive progressive bloggers on television or radio. Never. That's because controversy drives ratings. You see moderate elected Democrats on television because they disagree with the party and the president. The same phenomenon makes Jane Hamsher a starlet of cable news while anyone who defends the president is about as exciting as a WHAM! reunion."

Check out the entire post.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:01 AM
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1. Thanks for this angee...I'll check it
more tomorrow but happy to see it before I sign off.

I like Cenk but I think at times he's a bit disingenuous regarding Pres Obama and I totally agree with booman on just about everything he's written..I won't say everything 'cause there must have been something but I can't think of it.

I think they need more integrity with their criticism and the way they're going it's going to come back and bite them.





















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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:09 AM
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2. Now they are worried about 2010 black turnout
:spank:

Now some are worried about the black vote. For the past few weeks they have been trivializing the black vote with their primarying Obama rhetoric.

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:48 AM
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3. Yes, this was an awesome piece. I was going to cross-post it in GD. Still debating that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 03:03 PM
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4. I predict that will get your
OP a ton of unrecs..if ya do it.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 03:28 PM
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5. you better believe it
it will sink like the Titanic.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:14 PM
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6. I enjoyed Cenk so much during the GE
but man, did he turn ugly after the inauguration. :(
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:40 PM
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7. That's the Bronx for you.
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 05:41 PM by rebel with a cause
;) I don't know if he is from the Bronx that is just what someone said but he does have that certain attitude that goes with a Bronx raspberry.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:37 PM
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8. Amen, baby. Was thinking much the same myself. nt
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