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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 04:41 AM Original message |
How important is a candidate's 'faith' when you vote? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Color me unsurprised n/t |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. A person has to earn my trust. |
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oldgrowth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. It's Worked out so well they to love to kill !!!!!! |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. So what does that make an athiest or agnostic? |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. An odd argument |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
38. As an atheist, I would like to know what kinds |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:45 AM Response to Reply #38 |
99. As an atheist, I would like too know also. |
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Nunyabiz (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #99 |
118. As an Atheist I would like to know just how |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #118 |
134. Good point! |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #38 |
117. As a Christian, so would I. The vast majority of my friends, even my husband, |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. How is it odd? |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:43 AM Response to Reply #42 |
60. The motivation for King's movement |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:47 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Being agnostic doesn't mean that I can't admire a hero like MLK... |
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dave_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
54. Sorry to hear that |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
57. What could possibly justify the dismissal of an entire group of people |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. So the George Bushs, Dick Cheneys and their ilk.... |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Guess we should |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. You couldn't pay me enough to take that job. |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I remember reading |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
59. Look at it from a national standpoint |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:06 AM Response to Reply #59 |
74. I appreciate the |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:11 AM Response to Reply #59 |
79. At some forum I read a posting that said Christopher Reeve was an atheist... |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:17 AM Response to Reply #79 |
89. She did it very eloquently |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Re-read my post |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #27 |
125. Somewhat difficult now that it's been deleted..... |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Wow |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Trust me, God is innnnnn, his holy temmmmple.... |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
44. I believe that the current administration has shown us that faith |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. You are of course entitled to your opinion but I find it very insulting |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
58. I could vote for someone who is religious, but I'd have trouble voting for someone |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Have to disagree |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
68. NOW HANG ON A MINUTE HERE! |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:03 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. You said you've had bad experiences with atheists... |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:10 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. And I think my private message |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:12 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. No, it didn't... |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:17 AM Response to Reply #81 |
88. *sigh* |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:21 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. You have not been discussing this in good faith |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:13 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. No, not really. Mostly because you didn't send it to everyone |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:17 AM Response to Reply #77 |
87. I know someone whose house was robbed by two young black men |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:05 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Its because you dismiss the individual as part of a group |
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Jonathan50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #68 |
138. A simple question or two |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 04:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. I long for the day when pandering to religion is just so passe |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I'd like to see a candidate refuse to discuss his/her faith. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I would love that! |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
114. Sign me up for a piece o' that dream, if you don't mind. |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
4. not very |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. With pat robertson's 150+ morality moles in our govt., ... |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
48. That's just as bad as No. 1 saying (s)he thinks people WITH faith |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:48 AM Response to Reply #48 |
65. based on past experiences |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:59 AM Response to Reply #48 |
69. In the past it didn't matter to me, but now ... |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:15 AM Response to Original message |
10. I was already wary |
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ProgressiveFool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
130. Amen nt |
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gobblechops (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:22 AM Response to Original message |
11. Doesn't matter to me |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. The faithful STILL think w is a Godly man put there by divinity. |
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gobblechops (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I heard them |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. I've done a complete and total flip-flop in that area. |
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gobblechops (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:55 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. you do |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:22 AM Response to Original message |
12. Not at all. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:25 AM Response to Original message |
14. It's none of my business. n/t |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
15. Not at all...religion should have nothing to do with public office... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
17. In Canada they find the phrase "God Bless America" foolish and ridiculous. |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
29. In America, we find most everything Canadian foolish and ridiculous |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:58 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Yeah LOVE those foolish concepts.... |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:01 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Canada would be a great living space for the master race. |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:13 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. More like Anne Murray, Celine Dion, Molson Beer |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Barry Manilow, Britney Spears, Miller Lite |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:00 AM Response to Reply #41 |
70. I don't drink beer |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:07 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Rocket science prodigy |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:12 AM Response to Reply #75 |
83. So smart people can't be pretty? |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:20 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Yer a hoot |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 08:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
109. I think that |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Barry Manilow is an atheist |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:12 AM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Doesn't make him a bad singer |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:15 AM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Not at all what I was implying |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:26 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. For a religious person you sure do seem to lack tolerence of others. |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:37 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. It's good to see |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
78. And it's not suprising you can't address my point about your own intolerence. |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:21 AM Response to Reply #78 |
92. My grandmother once said |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:26 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. You really don't see it do you? |
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dsa (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:34 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Is the pot calling the kettle? |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:49 AM Response to Reply #96 |
101. What debate? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:29 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Well then...you shouldn't have to worry as you aren't defending it. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:47 AM Response to Reply #92 |
100. So your grandmother is Bill O'Reilly? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. HAHAHAHA |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #100 |
123. *ow.* *head... hurts.* |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
85. For someone.... |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:29 AM Response to Reply #85 |
95. I smelled something funny |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #95 |
120. Mmmmmmmmm....pizza! |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:41 AM Response to Reply #29 |
97. Speak for yourself, dumbass. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 08:01 AM Response to Reply #29 |
107. As charming as your right wing bumper sticker talking points are, what |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #29 |
124. "We" do? How do you define "we"? |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #29 |
126. No, only idiotic Americans do... |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #17 |
122. I know I would NOT vote for a religious nut like Stephen Harper |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:35 AM Response to Original message |
20. Yes, a candidate's religion is VERY important to me. |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Same here. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
127. "... they don't get the benefit of the doubt..." |
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maine_raptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
31. It all depends. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
35. "Santa Ria" |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:12 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. (((SwampRat))) |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #37 |
116. Gelliebeans!! |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
36. The more a candidate plays up his or her faith |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
40. less than zero |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
43. The more faith they talk about the more worried I become |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
47. generally I don't, unless |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
49. A little to some,no problem. |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
50. Not important at all. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
51. It depends. |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
52. Totallt important if a goat is sacrificed. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
53. Depends...I don't want someone who believes in a FLat Earth... |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:36 AM Response to Original message |
55. So long as someone isn't wacky, I don't particularly care what religion they are or aren't |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
62. I would not vote for a fundamentalist of any denomination. |
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dave_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
64. Very important that they haven't too much of it |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
66. Yes, it is impt. to me. If the "faith" of the candidate interferes with the "faith" of others and |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
67. I view any candidate's faith with great skepticism |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
71. It is somewhat important to me. I want to know what his background |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:12 AM Response to Original message |
82. Very, and I'd prefer as little as possible! |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
98. I prefer it be nonexistent. But I make do. n/t |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
103. List of presidents by faith. For the most part, it seems meaningless. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:56 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Nixon was a quaker? |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:58 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. You shouldn't subject your dog to dogma or politics. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #105 |
113. I'll make sure he's out of the room next time :) n/t |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 08:02 AM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Jefferson thought |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 08:04 AM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Which is whoI thought of when I said religion was pretty meaningless. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #104 |
111. Boggling, innit? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
106. A candidate who talks too much about his/her faith... |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
112. Their religion isn't all that important. |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
115. Well - I'd like to vote for an atheist |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
119. It isn't at all unless they are hypocrites. FWIW, I'm Christian/UU. nt |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
121. Very important, actually |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
128. Couldn't care less... |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
129. It only becomes important when they make it a #1 issue |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
131. I believe in actions over words or faith |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
132. people want a candidate who will tell them the same lies they tell themselves |
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Rob H. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
133. The more a candidate talks about how religious they are, |
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doggyboy (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
135. as a very spiritual person |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
136. I could give a care |
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Jonathan50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-01-07 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
137. Their faith matters not to me.. |
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