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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:03 PM
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(WTF?) Iraqi PM: No Talk Yet of Permanent US Bases
Someone needs to have a heart-to-heart with Maliki...

http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3046/Iraqi_PM_No_Talk_Yet_of_Permanent_US_Bases


Iraqi PM: No Talk Yet of Permanent US Bases
Maliki Ends Tour of Kurdistan, Focuses of Sovereignty Challenges
Posted 3 hr. 8 min. ago
By Abdul Hamid Zibari

Arbil, Jun 2, (VOI)- Iraq's Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki dismissed on Saturday reports on long presence of U.S. forces in Iraq similar to the South Korean model saying "it is groundless as such issue is only decided by the Iraqi people."

"We so far have not discussed setting up permanent U.S. bases in Iraq," Maliki told reporters while leaving Arbil today after a three-day-visit.

more...
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:07 PM
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1. well he better get a clue as they are being built
as I type
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:08 PM
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2. Hey asshole...
See that place that is LARGER than Vatican City? You know, the place that has CLEAN water and running electricity? WTF do you think that is? Surprised Betrayus hasn't hand delivered a sandwich from the local Burger King...:grr:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:35 PM
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3. Can you say
PUPPET?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:37 PM
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4. Funny, the troops I've talked to
seem to think that most of them have been built already. Maybe Malakai didn't get the tour because he won't be around much longer to use them.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:49 PM
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5. Umm... Yeah... Didja get that memo? I'll go ahead and send you a copy of that memo.
Where's Lumberg when you need him?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:56 PM
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6. the biggest four PERMANENT bases are done and occupied
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 03:56 PM by leftchick
probably for the next 30 years or so. Clue bus pullin up for you maliki!

<snip>

Assuming, then, a near year to come of withdrawal buzz, speculation, and even a media blitz of withdrawal announcements, the question is: How can anybody tell if the Bush administration is actually withdrawing from Iraq or not? Sometimes, when trying to cut through a veritable fog of misinformation and disinformation, it helps to focus on something concrete. In the case of Iraq, nothing could be more concrete -- though less generally discussed in our media -- than the set of enormous bases the Pentagon has long been building in that country. Quite literally multi-billions of dollars have gone into them. In a prestigious engineering magazine in late 2003, Lt. Col. David Holt, the Army engineer "tasked with facilities development" in Iraq, was already speaking proudly of several billion dollars being sunk into base construction ("the numbers are staggering"). Since then, the base-building has been massive and ongoing.

In a country in such startling disarray, these bases, with some of the most expensive and advanced communications systems on the planet, are like vast spaceships that have landed from another solar system. Representing a staggering investment of resources, effort, and geostrategic dreaming, they are the unlikeliest places for the Bush administration to hand over willingly to even the friendliest of Iraqi governments.

If, as just about every expert agrees, Bush-style reconstruction has failed dismally in Iraq, thanks to thievery, knavery, and sheer incompetence, and is now essentially ending, it has been a raging success in Iraq's "Little America." For the first time, we have actual descriptions of a couple of the "super-bases" built in Iraq in the last two and a half years and, despite being written by reporters under Pentagon information restrictions, they are sobering. Thomas Ricks of the Washington Post paid a visit to Balad Air Base, the largest American base in the country, 68 kilometers north of Baghdad and "smack in the middle of the most hostile part of Iraq." In a piece entitled Biggest Base in Iraq Has Small-Town Feel, Ricks paints a striking portrait:

The base is sizeable enough to have its own "neighborhoods" including "KBR-land" (in honor of the Halliburton subsidiary that has done most of the base-construction work in Iraq); "CJSOTF" ("home to a special operations unit," the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force, surrounded by "especially high walls," and so secretive that even the base Army public affairs chief has never been inside); and a junkyard for bombed out Army Humvees. There is as well a Subway, a Pizza Hut, a Popeye's, "an ersatz Starbucks," a 24-hour Burger King, two post exchanges where TVs, iPods, and the like can be purchased, four mess halls, a hospital, a strictly enforced on-base speed limit of 10 MPH, a huge airstrip, 250 aircraft (helicopters and predator drones included), air-traffic pile-ups of a sort you would see over Chicago's O'Hare airport, and "a miniature golf course, which mimics a battlefield with its baby sandbags, little Jersey barriers, strands of concertina wire and, down at the end of the course, what appears to be a tiny detainee cage."

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=59774
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:03 PM
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7. Hell, the plans were posted on the tubes prior to the Pentagon pulling them.
If we know this, it's hard to believe Maliki doesn't.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:06 PM
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8. those were plans for the US Imperial Palace
I mean embassy. The Bases have been pretty much hush hush in the M$M.


Drawings of new U.S. Embassy in Iraq Released on Web

http://www.i4u.com/article9288.html
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:17 PM
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9. I've always figured, due to the size of the embassy,
that it'd be used to house troops, too. I stand corrected.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:19 PM
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10. Blackwater
the VIPs choose Blackwater for their personal protection. Even the Generals, condi, bush and cheney!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:21 PM
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11. oh yoo hoo! maliki.....
"The massive new embassy, being built on the banks of the Tigris River, is designed to be entirely self-sufficient and won't be dependent on Iraq's unreliable public utilities.

"The 104-acre complex — the size of about 80 football fields — will include two office buildings, one of them designed for future use as a school, six apartment buildings, a gym, a pool, a food court and its own power generation and water-treatment plants. The average Baghdad home has electricity only four hours a day, according to Bowen's office.

"The current U.S. Embassy in Iraq has nearly 1,000 Americans working there, more than at any other U.S. embassy.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-04-19-us-embassy_x.htm


Construction cranes are seen above the site of the new United States embassy being built in Baghdad.

"U.S. diplomatic employees in Iraq are to move next year to a multimillion-dollar complex that will be among the largest U.S. embassies. The facility is slated for completion June 2007.


"New office building: Includes classified activities
New office annex: For public diplomacy staff, consular affairs and the U.S. Agency for International Development
Interim office building: Designed for future use as a school
General services annex: Facilities management, break areas, staff locker rooms
Recreation building: Gym, exercise room, swimming pool, locker rooms, the American Club, commissary, food court, barber and beauty shop
Six staff apartment buildings: Each has one bedroom apartments
Residences for the chief and deputy chief of mission
Marine security guard quarters
Remaining buildings are dedicated to security, vehicle maintenance and facilities management, storage, utilities, and water and wastewater treatment

"Sources: State Department, Mall of America, Disneyland, Architect of the Capitol, wire reports and Senate Foreign Relations Committee

(same link as above)
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