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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:20 AM
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Poll question: What Do You Think of "Lionel"
I've been trying to be open minded about "Lionel". What do you think of his talk show?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:25 AM
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1. The topics he brings up are interesting, but to me his personality is annoying /nt
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:30 AM
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4. Thank god I'm not alone here--his show makes my skin crawl n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:38 AM
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11. I agree, he is grating. /nt
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DavidMS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 09:26 PM
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34. He makes me think of a smart alek kid with a chip on his sholder.
I generally like him, particularly when he takes a conservative to task. I think he can sound a little whiny at times. Overall, I think he adds an informed voice to the conversation.
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:29 AM
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2. He seems to have a real snotty tone of voice
with his callers. I can't listen to him.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:29 AM
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3. Lionel Ritchie?
He rocks!
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:32 AM
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6. No you can rest assured this is not about Lionel Ritchie :-)
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 11:36 AM by davidlynch
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 06:26 PM
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31. Heh
O8)
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:31 AM
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5. I'm actually missing the Jerry Springer show. Damn I never thought
I'd actually say those words.
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:40 AM
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13. Agreed--And I can't see why they thought Lionel would be better than Sam Seder
This seems like a gross error.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:14 PM
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21. I listened to this guy a few times when I lived in Ohio and
I'm amazed to see he's still around. He just plain sucks.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:41 AM
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14. Why does AAR have the need to self-destruct?
Ahh, Mark Green-- I had such hopes for you and your brother... :shrug:
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:53 AM
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18. I don't know, I worry about Nova M too n/t
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skiddlybop Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:59 AM
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19. Yeah, for the amount of money they risked,
they didn't seem to have a plan.

In New York, I don't even tune into the "flagship" station till 3PM when Randi comes on. They have SIX HOURS A DAY on WWRL of paid Republican shill Armstrong Williams, and also Fox shill, Dickless Alan Colmes. I have to stream at www.theyoungturks.com. That's a disgrace.

I won't kick a nickel in till there's something to listen to in the daytime.

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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:13 PM
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20. It's beyond me. I know a lot of people didn'r care for Malloy,
who's one of my favorites. But at least they had Al Franken and others as a contrast. Now it's just bland.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:28 PM
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24. i love Malloy..and as far as i am concerned they have destroyed air america!
now in afternon i get ED Shultz and i won't listen to him..now this lionel whoever..mr god show..no thanks..i am going back to music!!

fly
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:36 AM
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7. They make some damn good model trains!
http://images.google.com/url?q=&usg=AFQjCNH6cApVkk5N8gd9AULxL7XjTBcb9g
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:37 AM
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9. LOL n/t
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Jackeen Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 06:33 PM
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32. My first train set...
Never heard of the talk show, but I got started on O-27 with a Blue Comet. Now, that was a train set.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 07:34 PM
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33. This is my train set:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:36 AM
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8. i love his trains...
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:39 AM
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12. And if this particular "Lionel" would go off and play with them...
We'd all be thrilled.....
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:37 AM
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10. I know his voice drives many crazy..... but to me...
Lionel's voice has some similarities with Ben Mankiewicz from the Young Turks, and I don't find Ben's hard to take at all. SO, I'm suspecting it is Lionel and what he says, his often overwhelming arrogance, that makes his voice "so annoying" to so many. I really hate it when he mocks his callers--not RWers but earnest average listeners.

Lionel clearly needs to make himself seem "mentally" superior... I think that is why so many really loved Sam Seder (and Thom Hartman, Rachel Maddow, David Bender, etc.) They always give the caller benefit of the doubt and are respectful (until it becomes clear they are just RW disruptors). Lionel doesn't care if they are lib/progressives and are making points he totally agrees with. His need is to make someone look stupid, and by extension, I suppose, make himself look "smarter." :eyes: He is smarmy, IMO and has no business being on AAR.
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:44 AM
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15. That's dead on--thank you for the clarity
He is amazingly arrogant and yes this is so pronounced there must be some inferiority issuez in play.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:44 AM
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16. He did a bit the other day that was brilliant. He had on this wingnut from a site
called "What are we fighting for?" (http://www.whatarewefightingfor.com/). The guy was a complete nutjob who talked about "Re-Americanizing" America — and Lionel lured him in...and just when the guy was lulled into feeling comfortable, Lionel had Liberals call in and ask this guy questions, for which the guy had NO answers at all. Many of the callers were veterans, so I think Lionel had them lined up for this bit. It was devastating.
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:46 AM
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17. I'm going to keep listening with an open mind -- mmk n/t
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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22. Your forgot, Lionel JUST PLAIN SUCKS
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:25 PM
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23. i only heard him this week one day and one day last week..while driving
i have xm in my car and was driving a long distance..and omg..i had to shut him off and go to music!!

both shows i listened to were about religion..if i want religion i will go to church..i do not listen to air america for god..or Jesus or any such crap..

and his voice undid me..first i was just listening to his voice getting annoyed then i realized he was talking religion...and i said enough..and switched to good music..

i will not listen to him again..and i have xm throughout my home..with ceiling speakers and can listen anywhere in the house or porches..

no thanks i will pass on him..i will not listen in the am to that person..it got me mad honestly..i got real mad at Air America..how could they replace Sam Seder with this nit wit??

i listened to Sam while i made my beds and had my morning cofee and i loved Sam..now this?? god god god crap..no thanks..now i will go back to music!!

at least the music doesn't annoy me!! Lionel what ever annoyed the shit out of me!!

fly
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:28 PM
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30. Go to church? Lionel's a very proud Atheist. NT
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:32 AM
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35. well he had two shows ..the two i listened to while traveling and they were all religion! eom
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Hersheygirl Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:41 PM
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25. Air America made a really big mistake.
While Sam Seder was good but didn't have the following, maybe because he wasn't known all that well, Thom Hartman would have been great in that spot. What bugs me is XM puts Ed Schultz in Thom Hartman's noon to 3PM time slot and Ed is definitely no Thom Hartman.

Randi is the only one left of the original line-up, although Rachel Maddow is still around.

All in all I liked the first format they had when they first started.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:47 PM
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26. AAR never did squat to promote Sam Seder...
It slays me to hear the Lionel is one word like "God" promotions, that are not only offensive on their face, but are using AAR dollars to promote him! Where was that promotional campaign for Sam? Yet, they justify dumping Sam Seder by saying he wasn't building market among the affiliates! Shit, shit, shit, I so hate it when Lib/Progressives try to imitate the RW...
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:04 PM
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28. My local AAR promotes the hell of out Sam
even though he's just on weekends now :-(

I haven't heard this Lionel guy, and will not. The last AAR host my local plays is Rachel Maddow on 2-hour delay, from 7-9pm. Randi is on from 9-12am, then Malloy on from 12-3am. So I don't get whoever is on after Rachel. Jon Elliot I think is one, and 'Lionel' is the other one.

I get Mark Riley, Bill Press, Stephanie Miller, and Ed Schultz in the morning, live, then Thom and the local liberal radio show "Minnesota Matters". I listen at night, when I'm at work, so I usually catch it from 3pm to 3am every day.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:16 PM
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29. Good for the Minnesota affiliate...
Sadly, many affiliates never carried Sam's morning show from the first and weren't encouraged to do so via any AAR (national) promotion... So, in the typical circular reasoning, AAR decided "Sam wasn't carrying his weight..." :eyes:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:53 PM
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27. So, after excluding those who have never heard his show...
27/37 in this poll indicate very negative impressions = 73%.... Hmmm.

I wonder if the Greens are getting this kind of feedback. Perhaps the OP might want to forward the poll and link findings on to them...If nothing else, perhaps they could deal with his behavior towards callers--his rude mockery--even if they choose to continue his show. :shrug:
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:00 AM
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36. Lionel is not terrible, but he is far from great...
and Sam Seder is great. Sam Seder has been doing some of the best political analysis (and political comedy) in any media format.

I figured out what the Lionel "factor" is, and where Sam Seder is supposedly lacking: Lionel has an oily "radio voice" whereas Sam Seder talks like a regular person. Sam Seder doesn't have a disk jockey's delivery. That is the meaning behind the code word "entertaining" (The dig against Seder is that he isn't supposedly "entertaining" enough). This is radio-speak for "disk-jockey voice". Lionel has a disk jockey voice.

Lionel isn't topical enough. Cover the damn news, PLEASE !!!!!! Don't do "thematic" shows ("Religion: positive force in today's world?") when there is a TON of hard news to discuss. Even if you did the hard news every show, every day, you wouldn't run out of topics!!!!

Lionel is slightly annoying with his arch sense of humor and dry wit. He clearly has a glowing opinion of himself, and looks down on the callers. Here's a hint, Lionel: Get better call screeners. If the screeners think they have a dumb caller, don't put them on the air. Don't put dumb people on the air, just so you can feign superority.

AAR is in a world of trouble now, IMO. And I hate to be mean, but Mark Green lost a mayoral election to a Republican, in New York City where the Dems outnumber the Republicans 3 to 2. Mark Green's track record sucks. I'll be glad if Air America Radio even survives.
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