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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:28 AM
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Poll question: If ANYONE Invades MY Country, I Will Have No Choice, except to
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 11:38 AM by L. Coyote
Try to put yourself in the bare feet of someone else somewhere in the world, somewhere
people are contending with foreign invasion and occupation by military forces.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:30 AM
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1. "Run a poll to figure out what to do"
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:01 PM
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15. lol
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:30 AM
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2. If the shit ever hits the fan...
I'm walking north. You guys are on your own.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:11 PM
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18. You'll get north faster on a Kawasaki KLR650:


See you at the Arctic Circle!
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:15 PM
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20. self delete
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 12:15 PM by kenny blankenship
posted in wrong place.
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Matsubara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:34 AM
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3. None of the above.
First of all, these polls are too apt to be used by those who would like to point out the "lack of patriotism" on this board.

But my answer would be, go about my business as usual. an invasion government would be more of the same bullshit, only run by different assholes.

Like, why is it that the shitheats who run our government now are assumed to be working in OUR interests? Hell no, 90% of them only care obout filling their own pockets.

I would view the occupation government with a very similar contempt with which I view our existing one.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:37 AM
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5. Very good patriotic quote. Okay, I voted for you. Guess which one?
"an invasion government would be more of the same bullshit, only run by different assholes"
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:44 AM
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7. Yup
My thoughts exactly.

I've clocked out of "patriotism," even a long time ago. The whole posturing of "resisting the occupation army" is laughable. Most people on these boards would gripe and fuss, but do nothing, just like they do now. Hell, a good number believe that the Bush admin is a coup, and many even believe that the Bush admin caused 9/11, "on purpose," as they say. And they do nothing.

This poll is a joke. If the occupation army didn't disrupt everyday affairs like shopping at the supermarket and taking your kids to the park, most people would grin and bear it. We would be no more alienated from the government than we are with the fake democracy we have now.
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:50 AM
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9. I totally agree with your post, but the thing that made me hover and not answer was this question:
What are their plans and what is the manner of their invasion? Is the invading force more enlightened? What is their ideology and are they trying to force it upon me? Should I even think about it?

These are things that sound somewhat like "lack of patriotism", but are what the rightwingers, neocons, freepers and such expect from the Iraqis...
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:36 AM
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4. where's the option for killing my fellow citizens?
I mean what about blowing people up while they eat, shop, or go to school. That wasn't one of your options, but it seems to be a popular thing to do.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:39 AM
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6. Thanks. Start a civil war option added on edit.
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Tara_NM Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:46 AM
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8. I would do several of the choices
I think I would resist AND try to learn the potentially new language and culture to be better communicate and understand my enemy as well as to be better prepared for whatever was to come should my side lose the battle. I would also look into leaving as a last resort.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:52 AM
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10. Depends on who "our government" is at the time...
If it is still the present "government" - then I would probably support our LIBERATORS, just as the French and Europeans did to us during WWII...

It all depends on WHO the "we" are and WHO the "they" are...
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:54 AM
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11. How about join AND resist?
Collaborators who pass information on to the resistance are always a valuable asset.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:56 AM
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Admirable thinking. Plus, worms can do a lot of direct damage, set traps, etc.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:55 AM
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12. When I get the deed to "my country" I'll be better able to answer.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:56 AM
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13. Ask them politely to go away...
and take the Bush administration with them when they go.


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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:59 AM
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14. Tell them the RNC is heading the resistance and to go get their computers and servers.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:03 PM
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16. "Wolverines!"
Despite the answers on this poll, very few have done anything to resist the fascist invaders who have occupied our White House for nearly seven years now, nor to stop them from imprisoning and killing our people, raiding our treasury and completely destroying the very foundation of our country.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:10 PM
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17. We are Being Invaded ...
... but it is not a military invasion.

And, this is what is actually happening today: "Start taking language lessons to prepare for the cultural transformation."

The language is Spanish and the cultural transformation is everywhere.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:37 PM
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30. There still is hope then: "the cultural transformation is everywhere."
Meanwhile, those speaking Spanish for about 500 years now think of the English as the
recent wave of European invasions. They overthrew church, slavery, and the Spanish
at the same time. Shortly thereafter, the USA invaded, and Lincoln cried foul:

From: http://www.jqjacobs.net/writing/fa_part2.html

"Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable--a most sacred right--a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world,"
Abraham Lincoln, speech in the U.S. House of Representatives, subject: The War on Mexico. Delivered January 12, 1848.

At about the time of that statement this very hilltop was under siege by United States troops. The Palace defenders including military cadets numbered a mere 800. President Polk defended his ordering the Mexican invasion, but Lincoln had this to say about what provoked the hostility,

"The marching of an army into the midst of a peaceful Mexican settlement, frightening the inhabitants away, leaving their growing crops and their property to destruction, to you may appear a perfectly amiable, peaceful, unprovoking procedure; but it does not appear so to us. So to call such an act, to us appears no other than a naked, impudent absurdity...the war was unnecessarily and unconstitutionally commences by the President."
A. Lincoln, July 27, 1848.

"...refusing to accept a cessation of territory, would be to abandon all our just demands, and to wage the war, bearing all the expense, without a purpose or definite object."
President Polk.

On Feb. 2, 1848, the Guadalupe Hidalgo Treaty was signed. Mexico conceded Texas, California, and the Territory of New Mexico for 15 million pesos. Today that many pesos will buy $35,714.28 U.S.-- one cheap tract home.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:12 PM
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19. To tell the truth I almost couldn't be madder IF they were foreign
invaders. I feel like aliens invaded and took over my government. I hate guns. I kinda feel like we'd all be safer if no one had them. My young son on the other hand is enamored of weapons. His room is full of pistols, I think called glocks, and some large automatic machine gun looking things. I'm scared shitty of them. He has asked me to go to the range for practice. I'm scared to do that but I think it is something we could do as a family. (Sickening, huh) In my heart of hearts I'd like to go to the shooting range and fire off a few rounds. Gad, I'm ADD I get off the point faster than a pothead. Anyway if someone were coming to invade my home in my dreams I'd go down shooting. And to tell the truth, I think the 2nd amendment is designed for the people to have protection against Big Brother. We don't have to let a corrupt government take us over. Say, if it were something like the Occupation of Iraq. Those folks are gun lovers, shootin' it up at weddings and celebrations. Seems like a lot of families have firearms under the bed. My god, I can't think of anything more dangerous than going house to house kicking in doors of ordinary people whom just happen to have an automatic rifle under the bed. I'm surprised our poor uniformed men and women haven't kicked in more doors where the dad or mom is sitting in the recliner with the weapon locked and loaded, sprays them in a hailstorm of bullets. They know the house is going to be turned upside down and all males over 14 plus the dad are going to be taken off to be tortured. I'd sure the fuck hope I'd go down fighting. Only seems patriotic to me. Fighting FOR my country. BTW Why don't we quit this house to house business...it's dangerous and messy. This is when you use the gasses. You know those nice, quiet gasses which put everyone to sleep forever and leaves the infrastructure and building intact. Remember that when they were developed it was thought to be state of the art war. Kill the people leave the buildings. It would sure as hell keep our boys and girls safer. Then we could hang George just like Saddam. End of rant:rant: See what you get for getting me started.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:16 PM
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21. Do you have some information on this invader--a brochure, maybe?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:40 PM
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23. No brochure, but they do have a $secure$ website with a great flash splash
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:23 PM
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22. Depends on who is doing the invading
If it's Denmark, I'll think I'll sit back and let them take over.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:22 PM
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26. you beat me to it! unfortunately, the nicest countries don't invade others
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:53 PM
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24. My choice is not on your poll.
If it's Canada invading, I will meet them with chocolate and flowers. Anyone else I will resist.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:59 PM
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25. Calling Canada, Calling Canada, Need Chocolates?
:rofl:
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:35 PM
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28. But if it's Canada being invaded, I'll have to move back
and defend it against the invaders - most probably the U.S., the way things are going. :P
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:53 PM
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32. Canada should invade and annex the West Coast.
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 02:59 PM by Cleita
Look what you get, three states that are mostly liberal, one state, California, that is the sixth largest economy in the world and all those warm climates in the south to vacation in a lot of military hardward and installations. We get good social programs and real government by the people. Also, our liberals should be able to vote out your conservatives in the forseeable future. It's a win, win for all of us. The only problem would be Washington. D. C.. However, when the other states see how well we are doing under Canada, they might just petition to join us. That would leave Bush and all the other neo-conservatives and "K" Street criminals sitting all alone there with nothing to govern.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 03:25 PM
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33. Sounds like a plan
Maybe we'll all be able to f*cking afford to live there once the West Coast is under Canadian rule.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:24 PM
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27. Time for a Revolution baby.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:39 PM
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29. Coming soon to a Hearing Room on Your Hill. LIES and FALSEHOODS, Meet the Overthrow
LIES and FALSEHOODS, Meet the Overthrow Gang. One day at a time, drip, drip, drip ...

Compared to the last 6 years, this is a revolutionary time.

HEARING: Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the DoJ Politicizing Hiring Firing USAs PART V
====================
Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? -- Part V "
Senate Judiciary Committee - Full Committee - DATE: June 5, 2007 - TIME: 02:30 PM


Hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on “Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? – Part V”

1. Bradley J. Schlozman - Associate Counsel to the Director - Executive Office for United States Attorneys
Former Interim U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Missouri
Former Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General and Acting Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division
U.S. Department of Justice


2. Todd Graves - Former U.S. Attorney - Western District of Missouri - Kansas City, MO
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 03:54 PM
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34. Fax request to CSpan to cover (202) 737-6226
(I will repost the particulars again tomorrow.)
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:48 PM
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31. and in my opinion that includes Blackwater Mercs
Hi Agent Mike.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:16 PM
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35. ... greet them with flowers and candy.
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 05:19 PM by Make7
If ANYONE Invades MY Country, I Will Have No Choice, except to greet them with flowers and candy.

My assumption would be that anyone invading my country would only reluctantly be doing so for the benefit of myself and the rest of the citizens of the country and the world.

I would offer myself as a guide to hunt down the stockpiles of WMD so they could be eliminated as a threat to the peace and security of the world. But perhaps most importantly, I would be sure to exercise my new found right to vote in a free and fair election. (Overseen by the occupation forces to ensure there is no chance of any intimidation occurring.)

I would rejoice at the prospect of being liberated from the illegal head of the current regime - finally the wanton disregard for human rights and international law would be coming to an end.

When can I be expecting this invasion to happen?

- Make7
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 06:31 PM
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36. "My country, right or wrong" seems to be the typical thinking of DUers in this poll
What I'd be most likely to do would depend on what the previous leadership of my country was like.
If you had been in Uganda under Idi Amin, you might well have welcomed the invaders - or in Cambodia under Pol Pot.

Anyway, who is forcing me to have no other choice? I suspect I'll have several choices.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 06:47 PM
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37. I would start a flame war in GD.
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