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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:07 PM
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Newt may well be the smartest Republican out there
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 01:19 PM by Perky
Look. I like political strategy. Solid Strategy is is like a fine wine or Cherry Garcia ice cream. At some levels I do not care who is serving it. While all major GOP candidates think they have to embrace Bush to win the nomination. Gingrich understands that the disenchantment among the base is huge. SO while the other side is fighting over the 30% by genuflecting towards the WH. Newt is pissing on on the front law .

Newt understands that the disenchantment on the right is palpable and embracing Bush will screw the GOP nominee in both the short and long run. SO he is going after the disenchanted multitude and is going to wind up running as the party saviour.

Sure hie is going to piss off the bases. but they are split 6 different ways ans and is betting that there are more votes to be had by saying our emperor is a naked idiot. SO long as No one emerges as the presumptive. I think this strategy might well get him most popular votes during the primary run.




Gingrich Takes Bush White House to Task



http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/ON_THE_2008_TRAIL?SITE=CATOR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-06-03-11-14-58

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Newt Gingrich described the Bush administration as dysfunctional and its unpopularity as hazardous to those in the Republican Party.

"The government is not functioning. It's not getting the job done," said the former House speaker, who is considering a run for the Republican presidential nomination. "Republicans need to confront this reality."

Gingrich said in a broadcast interview he believes Bush "means very, very well" but falls short when it comes to putting his goals in place and running the government.

"All you have to do is look at the examples I've given you today where the government simply fails," said Gingrich, citing the administration's handling of the war in Iraq, its immigration policies and response to Hurricane Katrina.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:11 PM
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1. Newt is an amoral opportunistic cretin.
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 01:12 PM by Skidmore
Begs the question of why, if he knew all this stuff, he didn't step forward and in the interest of the nation do or say something about it sooner.

Newt Gingrich only serves himself.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:12 PM
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2. x - actly
brash ≠ smart
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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7. Not so
amoral & opportunistic - yes. Cretin - no. Dangerous - also yes.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:27 PM
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15. Yes indeed, He does only serve himself. Which thought then leads one
to naturally wonder, 'Now what does Newtie want?'

Maybe to be the republican candidate???
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:33 PM
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23. Newt had just gotten canned as Speaker & was in Atlanta airport
when I was returning briefly before permanently moving back to Colorado As, I had owned a home in his district, there was something very poetic about cutting my ties (no offense to Atlantans-- I still like the city) as he was returning in shame.... No entourage-- gabbing on a cell phone as he waited like the rest of us at baggage claim...

It was all I could do not to say something or send my thoughts through my stares... But, I did neither (just smiled a bit to myself).
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:12 PM
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21. Agreed. Newt is a useless waste of carbon atoms. -nt
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 04:43 PM
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28. Correct, as if all this wasn't evident in 2004.
Debt was skyrocketing, government spending was up, government was getting bigger and having more control over the lives of individuals, Plame was outed, Abu Ghraib was all over the papers, etc, etc.

This article in Pat Buchanan's "American Conservative" magazine half-heartedly endorsed Kerry by just bashing Bush. It explains that Bush was bad for the country, and the party, and "unworthy of conservative support".

http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/cover1.html

For all those who supported Bush then, when it mattered, to now come out against him does scream a bit of opportunism, doesn't it?

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:13 PM
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3. Newt is smart, and the base already loves him more than they do bush. If he
gets in the race, and it looks like he will, I think he will get the Repo nomination.

I also think that beyond the base, he's damaged goods and won't attract many in the general election.

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:14 PM
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4. oh boy--a replay of the glorious, greedy 80s, w/his Contract On America
--he is nothing more than a thinly disguised neoCON himself.

UGH!! I can't stand that disgusting cretin.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:14 PM
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5. Newt is smart
and we should not minimize his abilities. He is a very savvy politician and if he were to be elected he would bring back all of the mean spririted and nasty policies of the '94 Congress.

I am paying close attention to him.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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6. We need to hammer his negatives.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:18 PM
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8. No we don't
Not intil he gets the nomination. \


Until then we whould let him try and rescure the GOP
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:27 PM
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14. I disagree. Hammer him before the Republics have time to
build a myth about him as they did *. Learn from the Republics and *. They created a myth about that bastard and have marched behind him like lemmings over the cliff. We've seen how slick they can make the marketing. Don't give them a chance.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:32 PM
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16. I would prefer to run against Newt than Rudy or Mitt
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 01:53 PM by Perky
Dobson is going to backhim and to me that is worth its waight in Gold.
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:24 PM
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10. I agree
He's a bastard who is very good at being a bastard. Don't trust him an inch. Go on the immediate attack and destroy him.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:21 PM
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9. Newt's role
in the Plame scandal remains largely unexamined. He was with Cheney and Libby in some of the visits to the CIA, to pressure analysts. He was in the March 2003 meeting in the office of Dick Cheney, when the WHIG decided to do a "work up" on Wilson.

Newt is the neoconservatives' hope for the republican nod for VP, because they are aware of the extensive, and often hidden from congressional oversight, power that resides there. It would be an error to consider him as an incompetent fool. He is dangerous.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:26 PM
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13. Yep
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:12 PM
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22. All his basic assumptions, like those of his Republican colleagues,
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 02:33 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
are mad and bad (to echo the words of Klaus Kinski's character in the Good the Bad and the Ugly, "Very, very bad"). But the hilarious thing is that, compared with the others, his reasoning from false premises is very impressive.
















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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 04:04 PM
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26. True.
The movie that comes to mind might be "Election," a political satire in which the majority of the students running for the presidency of the student council are parroting empty slogans in an attempt to win, if only pad their college applications. It's hard not to look at the republican candidates who have announced already, and not see Mitt Romney as the clean-cut high school student who wants the "president" under his picture in the year book.

Newt, on the other hand, has a far more serious agenda. He is one of the point guards for the neoconservatives, and he knows things about the inner workings of the administration that the other fellows couldn't possibly know -- because Cheney hasn't pulled them in.

He is repulsive and highly offensive .... two of the traits that the republicans value the most. He will lie, steal, and betray the Constitution .... all of the qualities the neoconservatism demands.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 04:50 PM
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29. You sure have a way with words, H20 Man. That last paragraph...!
The dead-pan way you epitomised their turpitude in a few brief words creased me up. I mean we inevitably get an overwhelming impression of bitter satire, as we read it, but even as we read it, we know it's perfectly factual - and that's what makes it so hilarious. Delivered in that perfectly appropriate, serious and dispassionate tone of yours. As if you were reading the news...!
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:24 PM
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11. Newt's nuts.
He can only come off as sane in short soundbite installments.
He also adds 3 or 4 wives to the GOP wife pool.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:24 PM
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12. The Newster is NOT going to get the Pub votes!
It's all those damn adulteries and marriages ya know!

I live here in Atlanta. The Pubs respect the Newster for his political abilities, but they HATE what he is as a person! Yea he has some charisma, but his failures far outshine his assets!
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:39 PM
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17. That means the rest of the republiks are stupid.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:45 PM
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18. No.. just cowards
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:01 PM
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19. Fucking "a little Fascism is good" Nazi wannabe...
Fucking TRAITOR to our Constitution...
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:08 PM
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20. Translation: the GOP is in a horrendous state
I mean, if moralless NEWT is the best they have...
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 03:25 PM
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24. Which isn't saying much.
That's like saying Poppy is the most Moral Republican out there.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 03:41 PM
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25. Actually the most moral is probably Danforth
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 04:24 PM
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27. Newt has only one challenger. Fred T.
The rest should fold but they won't because they get matching funds.

The Bush Clan are pushing Mitt/Jeb.
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