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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:11 AM
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After watching the debate last night, and being a good democrat:
How can I not vote for Kucinich? I'm sorry but, he's the best guy running.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:13 AM
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1. You should vote for and support whoever you feel is best
Certainly Kucinich has a lot to recommend him. That said many "good democrats" are going to come to a different conclusion than you.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:14 AM
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2. brilliant response
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:17 AM
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4. I know that, Bryant, and thanks for making the point, but,
I was talking about myself, not others.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:15 AM
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3. good luck
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:22 AM
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5. I agree but the media paints the most intelligent and
reasonable candidate as the 'far left' one! He isn't tall enough and too far to the left are common complaints I've encountered from the few people that seem to know who he is! He won't win but neither will Clinton. I'm pulling for Edwards and praying that Gore will enter...
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:56 AM
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16. Kucinich is not tall enough?
Well, Hillary's too blonde!!!
:rofl:

I like Kucinich, but realize he hasn't got a prayer of getting the nod. Too short, bad haircut with bad dye job. The only thing he's got going is that he would get us out of Iraq soonest. And that's almost enough to vote for him.

I was a little surprised when Biden wanted to send troops to Sudan. Me, I think we need to get our troops home, let them rest a while, get some therapy and training, before sending them off on new Crusades.

I hope Gore enters soon.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:03 AM
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17. Oh, please don't attribute this remark to me! I could less
about looks. The kooch's appearance is just fine with me.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 02:32 PM
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20. No, no, not attributed to you
I was just poking fun at the various "looks" opinions. And if Gore gets into the race, the "beard" pictures will be on the news, as well as opinions on his weight (that's just one more thing I have in common with Al).

I care about a bunch of issues, but the war and universal health care top my list. So my gut sez Kucinich, but the brain sez Gore or Edwards.

:hi:
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stuartrida Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:27 AM
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6. Not me. I prefer a candidate who wasn't 100% anti-choice up until he started running
for President. I am also guessing you didn't see him in action as a mayor. I'd still hold my nose and vote for him if he got the nomination though.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:18 AM
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8. Don't forget his vote for a Constitutional Amendment to STOP FLAG BURNING in 2001 AND 2003.
:( The pro-life issue doesn't sit well with me either.

Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration.
Desecration of Flag resolution: Vote to pass the joint resolution to put forward a Constitutional amendment to state that Congress shall have the power to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States. Note: A two-thirds majority vote of those present and voting (284 in this case) is required to pass a joint resolution proposing an amendment to the Constitution.
Reference: Resolution sponsored by Thomas, R-CA; Bill HJRes.4 ; vote number 2003-234 on Jun 3, 2003

Voted YES on Constitutional amendment prohibiting Flag Desecration.
Proposing a Constitutional amendment to state that Congress shall have the power to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States.
Bill HJRES 36 ; vote number 2001-232 on Jul 17, 2001

http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Dennis_Kucinich_Civil_Rights.htm
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:47 AM
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14. We should chase him around and heckle him as a FLIP FLOPPER!
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:50 AM
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15. Tell me about his action as mayor, if you can.
I would be interested to hear.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:09 AM
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7. I liked a lot of what he said also. I guess it's because he knows he's not going to win. nt
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:22 AM
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9. Thank you for voting
your conscience as and not falling for the "electability" meme being put forth by the MSM and the corporate-sponsored frontrunners.

And to the above poster who won't vote for him because of he was anti-choice 20 years ago, he's long ago done 180 on his position.

He was against the war from the beginning. He wants us out of Iraq NOW. He supports public financing and universal health care. These are are all Democratic Party ideals -- at least they used to be until the predator class grabbed hold of the party in 1992.

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alkaline9 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:20 AM
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10. Kucinich is the man!
He holds more values in common with me than any of the other candidates. I don't think he has enough general appeal to win the dem nom, but he sure is one hell of an American politician. Our country may not be ready to take the radical change of course that Kucinich offers yet, but another 4 - 12 years of corporatist presidents and who knows... I still have my fingers crossed for him.

Speaking more generally about the debate, something stood out to me about Edwards. The point when he looked at Obama and said "you were right from the beginning and I was wrong," probably showed the American people the one thing they wish chimpy would show... accountability. He was willing to admit that his vote for the IWR was wrong... something W would never admit. I just thought that one part of the debate was important not only for Edwards, but for all the Dem candidates as they are trying to show voters that we are the party of accountability.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:12 AM
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18. IMO Edwards should not have brought up Clinton & Obama's
vote on the supplemental last night as he opened himself up to criticism for co-sponsoring and voting for the IWR.

Why give an opponent ammunition! That stood out to me.

While admitting a mistake is admirable, doing everything you can to avoid a mistake is even more noteworthy, especially when the mistake might lead to an invasion of another country.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:29 AM
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11. He read the NIE and questioned the intel when it mattered n/t
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 10:34 AM by slipslidingaway
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:30 AM
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12. he's the only real Democrat running
the rest are corporatists, oligarchical shills and at the best mere "democrats."
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:46 AM
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13. Analysis of Joint Resolution on Iraq, by Dennis J. Kucinich
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:28 AM
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19. K&R
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:54 PM
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21. kick n/t
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