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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:56 PM
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ZOGBY POLL: majority of Americans progressive on poverty, say it should be top priority
This is just astonishing after twenty plus years of right wing propaganda that poor people are lazy criminals.

Maybe it's because so many people have experienced this first hand and even middle class people are feeling the quicksand under their feet.







Article:
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1320
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:03 PM
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1. Yeah, but probably nobody wants to pay for that themselves
nor do they want funding denied to whatever other pet issues they have.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:09 PM
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2. dems have to reframe tax issue--most of the changes are always in top brackets PIC


from CBO stats
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:23 PM
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5. Dems also need to clearly define where those brackets are
From my experience, far too many people think they are in a higher tax bracket than they really are. They need to understand that when we say "raise taxes on top brackets", we don't mean people living in suburbia.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:26 PM
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6. they are probably reluctant to use numbers because they are going to a fundraiser with top bracket
that night.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 02:57 PM
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10. You know, that's not quite true
When George Bush took office -- and even before, IIRC -- and he was hyping his pending tax cuts, poll after poll after poll revealed that the majority of Americans did NOT want huge tax cuts for themselves but rather wanted our surplus used for social good, and a Rainy Day Fund.

Now, RAISING taxes is another matter -- one that's a little harder to generate good poll numbers on, for self-evident reasons in line with what you say.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:19 PM
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3. K & R
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:20 PM
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4. Kick
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:54 PM
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7. K&R to the GP w/you!
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:23 PM
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11. Kick back ^^^ to the top!
:kick:

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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 02:06 PM
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8. populism works in this country
historically, this is true.

But we cannot have a discussion about populism when we allow corporations to gatekeep the discussion itself. All of the Republicans and half of the Democrats are demonstrably NOT populist, and that is because these issue are not on the radar screen of our political discourse.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 02:55 PM
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9. OMG. LOOK at those "support" percentages. Amazing.
The nation really is, for the most part, liberal. This is just one more validation. Here are a few others:

Democrats trusted more on 10 key issues...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x976217
(This one is actually a bounce from Bush's bad leadership and governing, but still.)

To those of you who still think centrists won this election http://journals.democraticunderground.com/jgraz/4

Bill Scher: The Conservatives' "Secular Problem"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x265891

I Will Not Support Hillary Clinton for President (by Molly Ivins, Jan 2006)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3002132

New Book: Why Mommy Is a Democrat
http://littledemocrats.net/index.html

Whew! It's Good To Be In the "Majority" Again. Ain't It!?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5337678

"liberals have a serious long-term problem that won't go away" (Eric Alterman)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2225786

We ARE the majority. There is no doubt now.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5253208

Mark Crispin Miller, post #30
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5253576#5253879

The New Yorker: GAME PLAN
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2166884

Remember Where You Heard It First ("We lefties were right when we said...") by One Pissed Off Liberal
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/2/16/135644/137

MY MOM HATES BUSH
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4731425

This country is not split! It's 70/30 NOT 50/50!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1973897
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:35 PM
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12. I think the Dems go after religious right because they don't ask for anything that conflicts with
big business. Give them a public display of the ten commandments and a bag full of fairy dust, and they won't notice that they can't go to the doctor, their kids can't go to college, and their job has been shipped to Bangladesh.

What politician wouldn't want voters like that?

By the way, did you know the secular humanists are trying to take the Christ out of Christopher Columbus, so it will just be opher Columbus?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:38 PM
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13. yep--now we just need to convince or flush the fucking Chamber of Commerce Democrats
I've done some stuff with my union, so I've gotten a close up look at how local and to a lesser extent state politics work. At the local level especially, I can see where the DLC Democrats come from. Business people want government contracts, and if only a democrat has a reasonable chance of winning, they will put up a democrat.

If you have ever watched the Shield, the Aceveda character is 100% real life.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:40 PM
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14. tax cuts abortion gay marriage terrorism NM
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:48 PM
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15. So, who the heck is the 3% who opposes....
"Make sure every child attends a school with good teachers, a safe learning environment and adequate resources to prepare them for college or a career." ?????!

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StudentsMustUniteNow Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:51 PM
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17. Libertarians
"You got yours? Well, fuck you Jack! I got mine!"
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 06:11 PM
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18. D'oh! I should have guessed that. n/t
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StudentsMustUniteNow Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:51 PM
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16. Get rid of the corporate DLC Dems, then we can start winning
Thank God for Tester, Webb, Sanders, Brown, among others.

Now let's get rid of the DLCers like Rahm and Richardson. Time to purge. Or else we'll be stuck on this "war on christmas" bullshit forever since these DLCers refuse to discuss economic issues.
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 06:31 PM
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19. But poverty is *'s top priority
he's trying to make everyone poor.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 06:39 PM
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20. Please, since we're all "for it", write & call Dodd to move these bills....!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1038077
Please K&R that thread! Thanks! :hi:

"With overwhelming bipartisan support last week the House passed legislation that allocates funds to begin to address the huge shortage of housing affordable for very low- income families. Under the leadership of Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee Barney Frank (D-MA), the Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2007, H.R. 1427, passed the House by a vote of 312-104.

"The core of the bill overhauls the regulatory oversight of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks, all of which write mortgages with federal help. The bill would also establish an affordable housing fund financed by a portion of their portfolios, an estimated $600 million annually, for the construction, maintenance and preservation of affordable housing benefiting very low income (below 50% of area median income) and extremely low income (below 30% of area median income) families. In the first year, 75% of the funds would go to Louisiana and 25% of the funds would go to Mississippi for housing needs arising from the Gulf Coast hurricanes. Thereafter funds would be allocated to states on a formula basis.


"Earlier in May, the Financial Services Committee also approved other legislation, the Federal Housing Administration reform bill, which would dedicate hundreds of millions of dollars a year in FHA surpluses toward an affordable housing fund. Chairman Frank is expected to introduce a bill this summer to consolidate the two funding sources, creating a single federal affordable housing trust fund. Advocates are urging Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Dodd (D-CT) to move companion bills through his committee and to the floor of the Senate.

"The National Low Income Housing Coalition, a leader in the campaign to establish a national housing trust fund, says there are only 6.2 million homes renting at prices affordable to the 9 million extremely low-income renter households – a shortage of 2.8 million homes. Nearly 600 state and local governments have established housing trust funds that together generate $1.6 billion a year for affordable housing programs."

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:29 PM
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21. hmmm...I almost qualify for that!
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:42 PM
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22. yet the dem candidate who addresses this issue straight on is being dismissed by the msm right
from the gate............. WTF?
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:43 PM
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23. Well, no wonder so few of the candidates are willing to talk
about poverty. With numbers like these, they might actually be expected to do something!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 12:13 AM
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24. that's a good way to put it.
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