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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:52 PM
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Before you eat any "Chilean Sea bass," I'd strongly urge you to
read a book titled "Hooked: Pirates, Poaching, and the Perfect Fish," by G. Bruce Knecht.

The vast majority of "Chilean Sea Bass" (and it's not even a bass, by the way) is illegally caught by pirate fishing boats, and the fish is in danger of extinction.

And do NOT let anyone bullshit you by claiming that it's "farmed." Those fish live two thousand feet below the surface, in Antarctic waters. Kind of a tough place to set up a fish farm.

Just thought you'd like to know, because I still see this fish on restaurant menus frequently.

Redstone
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:54 PM
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1. Thanks for the information....
That is an item I've seen on upscale restaurant menus....places where they pride themselves on being "earth-friendly."
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:56 PM
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2. Yarrr.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:58 PM
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3. Thank you. I'm a big fish eater and I had heard about this.
So many species are being overfished it's ridiculous.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:02 PM
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4. Do they mention other species in the book?
I love sea bass. Off the menu now. :cry:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:07 PM
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6. Swordfish
Unfortunately, I love Swordfish.

:cry:

But there's still Halibut!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:46 PM
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16. He only mentions other species as examples of how a fishery like cod can collapse
from overfishing.

Actually, the ONLY four fisheries I've read about that seem genuinely sustainable are: Maine lobsters, Mississippi catfish farms, oysters, and mussels.

(Maine lobsters specifically, because the lobstermen make the rules for themselves as a group, and they all stick to them.)

Redstone
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:38 PM
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39. The story of the Grand Banks is tragic
-- destroyed in less than 100 years.

A great account of how it was in 1897 in "Captains Courageous".
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 09:42 PM
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27. I stopped eating orange roughy when I found out they were 100 yrs old +
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:07 PM
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5. K & R DO you the deal on swordfish? Can we eat it now? I thought it was endangered too. n/t
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:47 PM
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17. Haven't heard much about that lately, actually. I think it may have come back,
but I'm not positive about that.

Redstone
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:50 AM
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34. Endangered or not, careful eating swordfish
It contains very high concentrations of mercury.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:10 PM
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7. Absolutely right
These fish live a very long time, are very slow to reproduce (and thus maintain the population) and so are currently very overfished and may never recover.

They changed the name to make it more marketable. It's real common name (not the scientific one) is the Patagonian toothfish.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:10 PM
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8. If they called what it really is, "Patagonian Toothfish" it wouldn't
sell so well.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:48 PM
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18. And there's one brilliant guy who named it that...the first guy to import it
into the US, in 1977.

Redstone
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:18 PM
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9. Thanks, I love this stuff but will stop eating it.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:21 PM
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10. I buy mine from Whole Foods:
Link

My wife and I just enjoyed two filets on Monday. Though it cost $44 for the fish, it was succulent. I sautee'd the filets in olive oil and butter and finished them in the oven with a mantle of fresh dill and ground pepper.

To accompany, bacon-wrapped white asparagus with frisee and dandelion salad. It was beautiful.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:50 PM
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25. Good for them, for finding a clean fishery. More stores should do that.
Redstone
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vanamonde Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:23 PM
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11. From the Monterey Bay Aquarium
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:32 PM
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13. Hi vanamonde
Welcome to DU
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:37 PM
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15. Welcome to DU!
And thanks for the link.

:hi:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:00 PM
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19. Excellent link; thanks, and welcome to DU.
Redstone
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:28 PM
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12. For that matter, don't eat "Escolar" unless you're particularly brave, either.
After eating that particular gem a couple times, I wondered why I always felt not-so-great.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escolar

I've seen fancy-dancy restaurants that try to serve it as an "alternative" to Chilean Sea Bass.

Turns out it's the fish version of those Olestra chips. Ick.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:35 PM
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14. How can we get this info
to the caterers for the GOP debates!!!????
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:33 PM
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20. Oh, yuckaroonie. Good thing I never eat fish in a restaurant. If I didn't catch the fish,
or know the person who caught it, I ain't eating it.

Redstone
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:40 PM
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24. Eww! Why in the world would anyone serve that? nt
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:53 PM
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40. Hey, if the Japanese won't eat it, it must be bad!
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:35 PM
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21. k&r-thanks Redstone.eom
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:38 PM
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22. It's pretty available at any decent food store not just restaurants
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 08:38 PM by Mike Daniels
A number of Whole Foods and Harris Teeters in Northern Virginia carry it and I've seen it at one or two Giants/Safeways as well.

My wife used to eat it until she saw an actual picture of the live version. She can't touch it now.

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:52 PM
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26. A post above says that Whole Foods gets theirs from a "certified fishery."
So there's one good source, at least.

Redstone
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:39 PM
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23. Can I read it WHILE eating one?
:rofl:

Seriously though, thanks for posting. Never ate one before, don't really plan on it anyway.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 09:50 PM
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28. I remember back in the 1970s when they talk about the ocean feeding the world...


,,, boy, were they wrong.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 09:56 PM
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29. K&R.nt
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 09:59 PM
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30. thank you redstone
i hate that these posts are necessary but i love when i see them - caring and factual and informative
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:04 PM
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31. 5th K & R!
Thanks for the info. I will be researching for more on this topic. I have trouble finding fish that I like. I will stear clear of this one no matter what! :hi:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 01:40 AM
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32. Welcome. Thank you.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 01:41 AM
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33. And down here
What is listed as Red Snapper is usually just Tilapia.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:56 AM
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35. havent had any since 2000
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 07:45 AM
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36. Too many people in this world that have "technologically" advanced
Our world has too many people that have "technologically" advanced. When it was only the US and Europe and Japan that were destroying the earth's environment and plundering the oceans it might have been sustainable, But now the affluency is expanding along with increased demands and impact on environment. Look at China and India as examples, which formerly had most of its residents riding bicycles and eating from the land. Now they are becoming more affluent and living as the environmental plunderers just as the USA and others have done.

Too many of us. Hopefully the birthrate will adjust before the planet pukes.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 07:55 AM
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37. ginbarn and I have only eaten Chilean sea bass once...
...and that was at the Treasure Island casino in Las Vegas on our wedding night.

It's delicious, but I had no idea the species was in so much danger. I hope the sea bass population will one day recover and flourish. We have much work to do.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 07:58 AM
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38. Please consider abstaining from fruits and vegetables from
the other side of the world as well. Eat local food that is in season instead of burning fossil fuel to eat avocados, peaches, pears, apples and more when it is not in season.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:35 PM
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41. Lovely creatures (pix). Also sold in Japan as "black cod". More bad news...
I knew I had read about Patagonian toothfish before ... here's why:
In the Winter 2001 issue of the AWI Quarterly, we noted the conservation horror surrounding the fishing for Patagonian toothfish, sold commercially as "Chilean sea bass." The campaign is paying off. Whole Foods and Wild Oats markets have already stopped selling Chilean sea bass.

Illegal fishing for toothfish in the Southern Ocean is hazardous not only for the fish themselves, but for other wildlife in and around the waters. According to The Antarctica Project, "It is common practice in the illegal fishery to dynamite the whales when they are discovered in the area where the fishing takes place" and "...hundreds of thousands of endangered albatrosses and petrels dive for the bait and become hooked and drowned."

You can help this embattled fish species and the other magnificent imperiled species that share the toothfish's ocean home by urging your supermarket not to carry Chilean sea bass.


Caption: Wandering Albatross drowned on pirates' illegal longline. (G. Robertson)

more: http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/summer2001/seabass.htm




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